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Just accepted an offer for Glasgow there. Went to the Applicants' day yesterday and there didn't seem to be an inordinately high number of c***s going about so hopefully it'll be decent.

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I got an unconditional to do Economics at Strathclyde...but when i went to the university I hated it! Minging Uni that felt like a prison!!

Despite the uni looking horrible, the economics course itself is actually pretty good. I'm just finishing 4th year and I'd definitely recommend it.

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I've had to do them most weeks and find them all right. I was meant to do one today though about this guy Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel. I was reading about him and literally didn't understand a single word of what he was saying. I ended up shitting out of it and skipping the class like a coward.

The tutor had people volunteer for who they wanted to do on the first day and nobody volunteered for this guy except for me as I wasn't listening. Turns out he'd been telling people how notoriously difficult this guys stuff was (although I'm sure mostly everyone else in the class would have been fine but I'm definitely at the thicker end of the spectrum).

So for any future students, always pay attention before saying you'll do something.

Three others from my group took your way out and didn't turn up either! In fairness, two of them weren't there when we were given the task so it didn't make any difference. The other one had part of the presentation she was meant to be preparing but she neither bothered her arse turning up nor sent the work to anyone else so the rest of us sat at the back of the class frantically putting together some other information while the other groups were actually doing their presentations to the class. Incredibly rude but needs must.

More annoying was me having to do the talking. I hate standing up in front of thirty students and talking, especially when I've no chance of knowing much about it because I don't have the time to research it. It is always me or one other girl that has to do the bulk of the work and get up and present it - and it's usually me. I'm fairly outspoken within the group of 7, I can put ideas across fairly well so when the lecturer says 'group 3, what have you got for us?' everyone sits looking at me waiting for me to do it all. No one else ever volunteers so I do the talking then share the credit! Two weeks ago we were given a scenario and had to work out a plan of action. One girl took the paperwork home and I suggested that someone should start a group chat on Facebook so we could discuss it later, though I wasn't going straight home so I'd catch up with them later that night. No one bothered starting the discussion and the girl with the paperwork didn't turn up the next day. I had to just make it up on the spot. Went alright actually. Anyway, the module finished this week so it can get to f**k. :D

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If you're tutor is letting the rest of your group away with all that, then they are seriously not doing their job properly!

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If you're tutor is letting the rest of your group away with all that, then they are seriously not doing their job properly!

Well, no, quite. If I were taking a class and someone was doing all the talking for a group I'd be inclined to start picking on others and getting them to speak up, but maybe that's just common sense.

That said, if I want a reference when I start looking for work, at least uni staff will have an idea who I actually am! Though I also understand how this could work against me too...

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Despite the uni looking horrible, the economics course itself is actually pretty good. I'm just finishing 4th year and I'd definitely recommend it.

I'm in Aberdeen doing Economics and Real Estate...the Real Estate department is top drawer but Economics...a mixed bag to say the least!

Love Aberdeen Uni but its a catch-22 as its obviously the last place you want to spend your time but coincidentally its the nicest place in Aberdeen by a landslide so you have no choice!

Never applied to Glasgow...still don't know why! Glasgow would have been a shout. I met the Strathclyde economics lecturer (the irish dude?) when I visited and he seemed top-bin...still never swayed me in that direction though!

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Can't complete basic counting tasks: can progress through the clown college with ease. Figures.

Indeed I looked at the profile views by accident.

My point is now invalid because you don't have under 26,000 posts, it's nearly 47,000. Oh.

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I got an unconditional to do Economics at Strathclyde...but when i went to the university I hated it! Minging Uni that felt like a prison!!

Bar the main building, Glasgow is exactly the same - some god awful structures litter the campus (Boyd Orr, Adam Smith etc.)

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I'm going to stick my neck out and say 'yes'.

Thanks for that

I'm joint honours law with politics, now 4th year.

The course has probably changed a bit but any recommendations on studying for the comparative politics 1B exam - don't even know where the hell to start with it

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Well, no, quite. If I were taking a class and someone was doing all the talking for a group I'd be inclined to start picking on others and getting them to speak up, but maybe that's just common sense.

That said, if I want a reference when I start looking for work, at least uni staff will have an idea who I actually am! Though I also understand how this could work against me too...

Thats what I do. I tend to make a wee note of who is speaking and who isn't and try to ensure that everyone contributes over the weeks. But perhaps I'm just an amazing tutor? :P

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Why don't we all just agree that most Glasgow Uni students are c***s and Strathy students are people who wish they were Glasgow Uni c***s.

I got 2 unconditionals for Glasgow but chose Strathclyde because it took less time in the morning to get to from my house.

True story.

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The course has probably changed a bit but any recommendations on studying for the comparative politics 1B exam - don't even know where the hell to start with it

They still doing the triad of Germany, Russia and China? Just make sure you have an argument and focus on the differences between them. Talk as much as possible about transition with Russia. The lectures were reasonably satisfactory for 1B so stick to the reading list and you'll be fine.

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I'm currently editing a thesis for a student, and I've just caught myself writing "be very specific" in response to an unsupported statement. Damn you P&B.

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Indeed I looked at the profile views by accident.

My point is now invalid because you don't have under 26,000 posts, it's nearly 47,000. Oh.

The fact that your point was based on post count means it was automatically invalid.

Gutted for you.

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I'm currently editing a thesis for a student, and I've just caught myself writing "be very specific" in response to an unsupported statement. Damn you P&B.

^^^

verge of tears

Has become a stock reference of mine.

Also, word to the wise: "evidence please" makes people think you're more of a dick if you use it in person than on the internet. Who knew?

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Well, no, quite. If I were taking a class and someone was doing all the talking for a group I'd be inclined to start picking on others and getting them to speak up, but maybe that's just common sense.

It shouldn't be the job of a tutor to 'pick' on unresponsive members of the group, which is likely to raise its own problems. So long as the tutorial allocates marks according to contribution, those who do so will earn the reward, while those who don't, will not.

And as you said, contributing will be noted as a good sign by the staff.

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It shouldn't be the job of a tutor to 'pick' on unresponsive members of the group, which is likely to raise its own problems. So long as the tutorial allocates marks according to contribution, those who do so will earn the reward, while those who don't, will not.

And as you said, contributing will be noted as a good sign by the staff.

I dunno, I can see that argument, but if you don't 'encourage' them to take part, then they aren't going to learn anything, and they aren't going to improve.

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They're supposed to be adults. Besides, there are always those who don't feel comfortable contributing but actually know the material well. They shouldn't be hammered for it.

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My tutorials are usually quite good in that everyone usually gets assigned an item off the reading list and then the tutorials are structured so that everyone's perspective from the different reading's get brought in as it goes along.

Nothing worse than the awkward silence when someone's blatantly not done any reading though.

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I dunno, I can see that argument, but if you don't 'encourage' them to take part, then they aren't going to learn anything, and they aren't going to improve.

Worth pointing out as well that a lot of courses don't have a seminar contribution/participation grade. In my 4 years of Law, only one course had a seminar participation grade, and it was worth 10%. It had literally no effect on anyone's grade band unless it was something like 5 or 6 grade bands out from the average of the rest of their stuff. In Politics, we had a participation grade for first and second year (again 10%, again totally inconsequential unless it was ridiculously good and you were sitting on a grade boundary).

Unsurprisingly, I am one of the few active participants in the seminars for both of my subjects. At times it gets reduced to a dialogue between me and the tutor, simply because no one else volunteers information. I hate the 20 second silence, especially when I know that other people in the room know the answer. I sometimes deliberately don't contribute to force others to volunteer an answer. It's painful.

Tutors should do what they can to illicit answers from quieter people in groups. There are typically two types of people who participate eagerly: those who actually know their stuff and those who bullshit. Everyone else, annoyingly, is mute. That completely defeats the point of seminars, which is to discuss ideas and test them against other people's understandings of the same material.

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