The New Raith Rovers Thread

[grumswall]

I'd need to see it back but it just looked a good fk to me at the time.

[bobbykdy]

11 minutes ago, Brashy's Boots said:

Positioning for the free kick wasn't clever. We shouldn't have conceded it - awful challenge by Dick I think - but whole south stand could see where it was going. And so it did.

It is one thing to be able to see where it is going, it is another to be able to do something about it.

[CountryBumpkin]

8 minutes ago, Jack Rae2 said:

I would say the free kick was a bit of a poor one. Brutally placed wall and I recall it being far from postage stamp placement which differs from raith twitter updates. Placed well in the side of the goals but keeper positioning and wall placement gave him 0 chance of saving it.

Definitely wasn't postage stamp, wrong side for a start but also wasn't in the top corner either. I felt it could have been better defended by both wall and keeper. I think MacDonald was a bit at fault for the 4th, beaten at his near post by the only good goal in open play of the game from QP. 

Not sure he made a save all game. Most he did was pick the ball out the net and retrieve a few goal kicks. 

[Brashy's Boots]

1 minute ago, bobbykdy said:

It is one thing to be able to see where it is going, it is another to be able to do something about it.

Yep,  agreed. But we weren't talking about the striker's technique. McDonald left himself v exposed and Murray, whom most know is a decent striker of a dead ball, plonked it in the hole.

[CountryBumpkin]

4 hours ago, pantene proV said:

All fair points CountryBumpkin apart from DG - no need for any more comments from anyone at club. It won't serve any purpose apart from the sound of old ground being raked.

As long as the stadium is in good hands I really don't care for updates around it - I use it for a couple of hours every 2 weeks and that's it. I appreciate others need for info re its' care though. We have plans from the previous proposal of the building behind the North stand that can be viewed, not a massive leap of the imagination to add extra level to it. Stadium repair articles frequently added during close season are they not? 

Our youth plans are of interest to me. That'll need to be cleared up at some point.

Appreciate that I'm definitely old school regarding my lack of need for constant information. Not just from the club I support either.

Absolutely not wanting more DG chat, with you there 100%. Just saying Sims interview gave yet another view of it that did nothing to close the situation off at all. 

[bobbykdy]

Just now, Brashy's Boots said:

Yep,  agreed. But we weren't talking about the striker's technique. McDonald left himself v exposed and Murray, whom most know is a decent striker of a dead ball, plonked it in the hole.

He has to trust his wall to be able to cover that side, if he gets it up and over and target then it is often a case of saying well done, too good. If he does as suggested and takes another step to his right Murray may well have put it in MacDonalds LHS and then he is definitely as fault as that is his side.

 

[grumswall]

He has to trust his wall to be able to cover that side, if he gets it up and over and target then it is often a case of saying well done, too good. If he does as suggested and takes another step to his right Murray may well have put it in MacDonalds LHS and then he is definitely as fault as that is his side.
 

Agreed. The wall is set there to cover that side. It wasn't top corner but it was still a good strike. No point in pretending otherwise.

[Brashy's Boots]

4 minutes ago, bobbykdy said:

He has to trust his wall to be able to cover that side, if he gets it up and over and target then it is often a case of saying well done, too good. If he does as suggested and takes another step to his right Murray may well have put it in MacDonalds LHS and then he is definitely as fault as that is his side.

 

We're almost in agreement, but one step to his right may have been enough.

Anyhoo, we were pish. 

[Been going too long]

55 minutes ago, grumswall said:

1 hour ago, JaketheSnake said:

MacDonald is aging like a glass of milk with each game

What goal was he actually at fault for?

The free kick inmo , set his wall up badly 

[CALDERON]

I'm sorry, but there's no way on earth we should just be accepting goals from free kicks if they clear the wall.  Getting a football up and over the wall, especially with referees enforcing the 10 yards more etc, is not achievement worthy of shrugging shoulders and thinking "ah well".  Virtually everyone around me today noted the gap McDonald left and knew exactly where that ball was going.  

[keyser_soze]

Gutted by today's result, however Aiden's 2nd goal won me £245. Was waiting on us to score a 2nd on Skybet 2+ goals market. Today's defeat is a bit easier to take for me 

[Ro Sham Bo]

6 minutes ago, CALDERON said:

I'm sorry, but there's no way on earth we should just be accepting goals from free kicks if they clear the wall.  Getting a football up and over the wall, especially with referees enforcing the 10 yards more etc, is not achievement worthy of shrugging shoulders and thinking "ah well".  Virtually everyone around me today noted the gap McDonald left and knew exactly where that ball was going.  

Yep it looked clear from the set up that it was an open invitation for a right footed free kick. It was like a flashback to the season a few years back where we seemed to concede a goal from a free kick every other week. Think it was possibly the Locke/Hughes season. 

[grumswall]

I'm sorry, but there's no way on earth we should just be accepting goals from free kicks if they clear the wall.  Getting a football up and over the wall, especially with referees enforcing the 10 yards more etc, is not achievement worthy of shrugging shoulders and thinking "ah well".  Virtually everyone around me today noted the gap McDonald left and knew exactly where that ball was going.  

We shouldn't be accepting many things that happened today. It was a good strike regardless

[CALDERON]

5 minutes ago, grumswall said:

16 minutes ago, CALDERON said:

I'm sorry, but there's no way on earth we should just be accepting goals from free kicks if they clear the wall.  Getting a football up and over the wall, especially with referees enforcing the 10 yards more etc, is not achievement worthy of shrugging shoulders and thinking "ah well".  Virtually everyone around me today noted the gap McDonald left and knew exactly where that ball was going.  

We shouldn't be accepting many things that happened today. It was a good strike regardless

Oh, it was a peach.  But even a half decent attempt ends up as a goal there.

[grumswall]

Oh, it was a peach.  But even a half decent attempt ends up as a goal there.

As I said previously at the time I didn't notice poor positioning etc so just thought it was a good strike.

It just popped in my mind. At 1-0 Vaughan gets the break of the ball, cuts it back and stanton is ready to make it 2 but Ross ignores/ doesn't hear a shout and takes an awkward touch. That chance is taken and its a different game.

[SirJimmyofNic]

When was the last time we conceded 5 goals at home 

[Ro Sham Bo]

35 minutes ago, SirJimmyofNic said:

When was the last time we conceded 5 goals at home 

Can't recall but unless Murray changes his approach I doubt it will be the last time it happens this season. 

[Dalziel8]

5 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said:

Can't recall but unless Murray changes his approach I doubt it will be the last time it happens this season. 

Unpopular opinion here but I agree with what Murray did today. When we lost the third he threw two strikers on right away to try and rescue the game. We had 20 shots and 13 on target. He tried to get us back into it. 
 

Also, only a couple of weeks ago we were all raving about the new look back 4. We can’t all of a sudden complain that Murray is clueless when we were praising him a fortnight ago.

Today was a freak result. I don’t think it’s any more than that.

[Zen Archer (Raconteur)]

7 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said:

What's going on at the front of the main stand? Saw it had had a big cutting taken out at the bottom of the hill.

I have heard that some Gabions retaining parts of the stadium have heaved and require replacement.

Regrettably, the frontage contained the ashes of passed fans, which were removed in the current works.

Hopefully a statement is following with regards to this occurrence.

[Ro Sham Bo]

1 hour ago, Dalziel8 said:

Unpopular opinion here but I agree with what Murray did today. When we lost the third he threw two strikers on right away to try and rescue the game. We had 20 shots and 13 on target. He tried to get us back into it. 
 

Also, only a couple of weeks ago we were all raving about the new look back 4. We can’t all of a sudden complain that Murray is clueless when we were praising him a fortnight ago.

Today was a freak result. I don’t think it’s any more than that.

If it was an isolated occurrence I might agree but not once this season have we gotten even a draw after falling behind. This is not a one off. If Murray continues this approach other teams will pick us off and do the same to us. I'm actually embarrassed for Murray that he's been in management this long and hasn't managed to develop any reasonable, balanced strategy to react to falling behind in a game . 

I suppose the main thing is we look like we have enough about us to finish no worse than 8th though, so our main objective of safety should be met. Whether that's enough to justify another season of Murray, is another matter for another day. 

Edited November 19, 2022 by Ro Sham Bo