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McGlynn was fine until exposed in the Championship second half. His basic plan was fine, but he lacked the players and the ability to adapt enough to succeed. I would have liked to have seen Paul Smith given a chance, but the two seem joined at the hip. Irregardless (that’ll chap some hides), last years Rovers team had significant structure flaws that IM inherited, and has not managed to patch up.

IM’s failure to ensure CB’s before allowing Bene, Big Dave and Frankie  to depart Is his bete noire, in my opinion. Retaining any of those three, for at least depth, would have mitigated the need for the early season scramble, and perhaps have allowed us to focus on, and find, a forward. That being said, IM isn’t doing that badly with the constraints of the team (and budget, perhaps?) and the competition. While we are all doom and gloom, I certainly believe that we aren’t in real trouble unless we reach Christmas in 8-10th place AND with a clear point separation from 7th+.

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39 minutes ago, TxRover said:

McGlynn was fine until exposed in the Championship second half. His basic plan was fine, but he lacked the players and the ability to adapt enough to succeed. I would have liked to have seen Paul Smith given a chance, but the two seem joined at the hip. Irregardless (that’ll chap some hides), last years Rovers team had significant structure flaws that IM inherited, and has not managed to patch up.

IM’s failure to ensure CB’s before allowing Bene, Big Dave and Frankie  to depart Is his bete noire, in my opinion. Retaining any of those three, for at least depth, would have mitigated the need for the early season scramble, and perhaps have allowed us to focus on, and find, a forward. That being said, IM isn’t doing that badly with the constraints of the team (and budget, perhaps?) and the competition. While we are all doom and gloom, I certainly believe that we aren’t in real trouble unless we reach Christmas in 8-10th place AND with a clear point separation from 7th+.

Spencer's injury was significant as was Tait's transfer shortly afterwards. Wrecked our midfield.

ETA A month later we lost Lang.

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50 minutes ago, TxRover said:

McGlynn was fine until exposed in the Championship second half. His basic plan was fine, but he lacked the players and the ability to adapt enough to succeed. I would have liked to have seen Paul Smith given a chance, but the two seem joined at the hip. Irregardless (that’ll chap some hides), last years Rovers team had significant structure flaws that IM inherited, and has not managed to patch up.

IM’s failure to ensure CB’s before allowing Bene, Big Dave and Frankie  to depart Is his bete noire, in my opinion. Retaining any of those three, for at least depth, would have mitigated the need for the early season scramble, and perhaps have allowed us to focus on, and find, a forward. That being said, IM isn’t doing that badly with the constraints of the team (and budget, perhaps?) and the competition. While we are all doom and gloom, I certainly believe that we aren’t in real trouble unless we reach Christmas in 8-10th place AND with a clear point separation from 7th+.

I don't get this. Why does one have to be to the exclusion of the other? We were clearly looking at forwards as well as CBs pre-season with Murray seemingly believing that all the trialists were a bit pish.

Murray could have gone and kept Benedictus and Musonda and we'd likely still be in the same situation regarding strikers.

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I'd have kept musonda but it was a good time for bene to move on. He's at a level that he can look a relative standout for what he brings to the pars now and I think we've upgraded by getting o'riordan. He doesn't have the experience bene did but he looks a better all round player than we've seen from bene for a few years now imo.

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2 hours ago, renton said:

I don't get this. Why does one have to be to the exclusion of the other? We were clearly looking at forwards as well as CBs pre-season with Murray seemingly believing that all the trialists were a bit pish.

Murray could have gone and kept Benedictus and Musonda and we'd likely still be in the same situation regarding strikers.

Disagree, I think we spent blood and gold on a search for CB’s that could have been directed at strikers. Also, if the Cb issue was settled, we would have known our striker budget early, when a few were about.
 

2 hours ago, grumswall said:

I'd have kept musonda but it was a good time for bene to move on. He's at a level that he can look a relative standout for what he brings to the pars now and I think we've upgraded by getting o'riordan. He doesn't have the experience bene did but he looks a better all round player than we've seen from bene for a few years now imo.

I agree Bene probably couldn’t have been kept as a cover due to wages and history. Musonda, I wonder if IM could have kept him, we just don’t know. Surely McKay could have been kept, but he wanted full time play, so it would have taken a nice wedge.

3 hours ago, Beachbum said:

Spencer's injury was significant as was Tait's transfer shortly afterwards. Wrecked our midfield.

ETA A month later we lost Lang.

Absolutely had a huge impact, but JMcG showed no tactical nous for compensating in any manner for those losses. He misused Stanton, judging by his varied playing levels this year, mismanaged the striker position, and signed little else to assist.

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3 hours ago, TxRover said:

McGlynn was fine until exposed in the Championship second half. His basic plan was fine, but he lacked the players and the ability to adapt enough to succeed. I would have liked to have seen Paul Smith given a chance, but the two seem joined at the hip. Irregardless (that’ll chap some hides), last years Rovers team had significant structure flaws that IM inherited, and has not managed to patch up.

IM’s failure to ensure CB’s before allowing Bene, Big Dave and Frankie  to depart Is his bete noire, in my opinion. Retaining any of those three, for at least depth, would have mitigated the need for the early season scramble, and perhaps have allowed us to focus on, and find, a forward. That being said, IM isn’t doing that badly with the constraints of the team (and budget, perhaps?) and the competition. While we are all doom and gloom, I certainly believe that we aren’t in real trouble unless we reach Christmas in 8-10th place AND with a clear point separation from 7th+.

I dont get this IM allowed Bene and FM to depart?
 

Maybe,just maybe both left as any contract they were offered wasn,t to their liking

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I'd have kept musonda but it was a good time for bene to move on. He's at a level that he can look a relative standout for what he brings to the pars now and I think we've upgraded by getting o'riordan. He doesn't have the experience bene did but he looks a better all round player than we've seen from bene for a few years now imo.
Until he leaves in 3 months?
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6 hours ago, Michael W said:

I am on the fence with Murray. Not particularly impressed with his signings,

Some of his signings has been underwhelming but that’s because of the aforementioned McGlynn pissing a lot off the Money on 2 year deals on the likes of Keatings, Zanatta, He who shall not be named and the pay increase in the 2nd year,

and if the budget has been drastically cut according to the club accountants on here and social media then he can only do what’s he’s got budget wise 

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3 minutes ago, foreverarover said:
4 hours ago, grumswall said:
I'd have kept musonda but it was a good time for bene to move on. He's at a level that he can look a relative standout for what he brings to the pars now and I think we've upgraded by getting o'riordan. He doesn't have the experience bene did but he looks a better all round player than we've seen from bene for a few years now imo.

Until he leaves in 3 months?

He’s got an option to extend beyond January im sure Murray said in a interview or it was in a paper article 

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5 hours ago, TxRover said:

IM’s failure to ensure CB’s before allowing Bene, Big Dave and Frankie  to depart Is his bete noire,

McKay left before Murray was appointed and a lot of people has suggested Bene wanted to stay but we offered a 1 year deal on the same terms but the pars offered 2 years and rumoured on over 2k a week and Frankie was strange one as he would’ve been a nailed on starter 

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1 hour ago, Wardy said:

Fucking hell we’re at Benedictus and Musonda chat again. f**k me. 

We'll swing back round to the lack of strikers by lunch time, then fully back to Murray oot by 5pm.

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10 hours ago, Heid_The_Baw said:

Still unconvinced myself with IM. However I am content in the fact we no longer have the over rated John McGlynn at the helm.  Never ever rated him tbh.  When he came back I was full of dread.  
Think Murray has the double whammy of no strikers available, and the fact we will be paying for ages for McGlynns utterly useless and in one particular  case utterly stupid signings.  Only Boris Johnstone has spaffed more cash against the wall. ;)

 

I despise this kind of stuff. McGlynn had us finishing 2nd and 3rd in the Championship and won us cups and leagues. Make no bones about it, McGlynn is the most successful manager since Nicholl. 

Who the f**k are you to rate anyone?

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I despise this kind of stuff. McGlynn had us finishing 2nd and 3rd in the Championship and won us cups and leagues. Make no bones about it, McGlynn is the most successful manager since Nicholl. 
Who the f**k are you to rate anyone?


In fairness, who the f**k are any of us to rate anyone?
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8 hours ago, Enigma said:

Successful he may have been but for me McGlynn has completely sullied any legacy he had at the club.

Pretty much this, he won cups and took us to good league finishes. However so much of his great work over two spells was forever tarnished by one moment of stupidity.  The club could have folded over it! We’re still feeling the effects to this day as fans walked away and withdrew their financial support.  We lost goodwill (pun not intended) in the local community and that wee turd sits drawing a salary regardless of whether we play him or not. McGlynn’s legacy for many is permanently stained by signing “he who shall not be named” which is a real shame as he was 2nd to only Nichol for many at our club.  Don’t know if IM is the right man but it certainly wasn’t John McGlynn after January. 

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10 hours ago, grumswall said:


 

 


In fairness, who the f**k are any of us to rate anyone?

 

Pissed me clearly disagrees. Sober me is back in control of the account and realises that this site is all about spouting absolute nonsense about football and other topics.

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