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5 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said:

No doubt part of the hospitality package problem is the lack of marketing, but for me the price is far too expensive for what you get.

£70 for a 3 course meal, with a glass of fizz chucked in. Then you add in the obligatory book of 50/50 tickets and the guess the crowd competition, plus a few drinks and it's pushing towards £100. And you get the bonus of a partially restricted view seat in the Main Stand.

For corporate guests, they need to more proactive than that with the pricing. For example, offer reduced prices if a full table is booked etc etc. 

For season ticket holders, the £10 discount is poor too. I would rather sit in my usual seat than the Main Stand so straight away the 'matchday experience' is reduced. They need to come up with a better deal than that to tempt season ticket holders to book it.

A new pricing structure incorporating a complimentary bar either pre or post match would be worth considering. I have no idea what other clubs offer, but I can't imagine that many are less attractive than our offering.

 

This for me is why i'd not do hospitality. Its not an experience worth its price. I'd much rather go to one of the local pubs for lunch, have 1 course, a few beers and then head along to Starks Park, its cheaper, more social as well. The main stand is just far too uncomfortable as well, not to mention the partially restricted view. 

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15 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said:

No doubt part of the hospitality package problem is the lack of marketing, but for me the price is far too expensive for what you get.

£70 for a 3 course meal, with a glass of fizz chucked in. Then you add in the obligatory book of 50/50 tickets and the guess the crowd competition, plus a few drinks and it's pushing towards £100. And you get the bonus of a partially restricted view seat in the Main Stand.

For corporate guests, they need to more proactive than that with the pricing. For example, offer reduced prices if a full table is booked etc etc. 

For season ticket holders, the £10 discount is poor too. I would rather sit in my usual seat than the Main Stand so straight away the 'matchday experience' is reduced. They need to come up with a better deal than that to tempt season ticket holders to book it.

A new pricing structure incorporating a complimentary bar either pre or post match would be worth considering. I have no idea what other clubs offer, but I can't imagine that many are less attractive than our offering.

 

Dundee offers hospitality packages from £75

Morton £109 (£10 discount for STHs)

Cove Rangers £75 for off-site hospitality

Partick £105 (£15 discount for STHs)

Looks to me like the club has the pricing right?? 

I'm sure you'll be aware of the external factors affecting customers and businesses alike? Something that will absolutely be impacting Raith Rovers, their supporters, local businesses and community in general?

 

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Is there any particular reason punters in hospitality can't have an option of going to the main stand for a seat or just standing outside the hospitality portakabin and watching the game?

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2 minutes ago, Raithie said:

Is there any particular reason punters in hospitality can't have an option of going to the main stand for a seat or just standing outside the hospitality portakabin and watching the game?

The board and opposition delegates have been in the portakabin this season. It seems like there was hospitality in the boardroom itself on Saturday. I actually chose to sit in the main stand...

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I have been told that the portacabin can only hold 20 people after all the necessary rework done inside the limit was reduced from 60 to 20 and this cost I am led to believe 120,00 pounds. It maybe a lot of tosh but in there there is a grain of truth. 

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6 hours ago, virginton said:

Well you have lost that wager, because hospitality was at most 50% full at Cappielow on Saturday. 

I didn't say 'sell out ' hospitality.

I only said 'sold'.

So Morton's 50% is 50% more than we had.

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1 hour ago, RavyDavy said:

Dundee offers hospitality packages from £75

Morton £109 (£10 discount for STHs)

Cove Rangers £75 for off-site hospitality

Partick £105 (£15 discount for STHs)

Looks to me like the club has the pricing right?? 

I'm sure you'll be aware of the external factors affecting customers and businesses alike? Something that will absolutely be impacting Raith Rovers, their supporters, local businesses and community in general?

 

 

Difficult to compare like for like - for example some of the pricier efforts presumably include a free bar. They might even offer decent seats at the match.

I'm not arguing that selling a 'luxury item' in the current climate is easy, but there are always some people and businesses with money to spend regardless of the economic situation.

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36 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said:

Difficult to compare like for like - for example some of the pricier efforts presumably include a free bar. They might even offer decent seats at the match.

I'm not arguing that selling a 'luxury item' in the current climate is easy, but there are always some people and businesses with money to spend regardless of the economic situation.

Properly marketing it and providing decent advance notice of availability has therefore never been more important. 

This is pretty basic stuff we've failed at. 

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32 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said:

Difficult to compare like for like - for example some of the pricier efforts presumably include a free bar. They might even offer decent seats at the match.

I'm not arguing that selling a 'luxury item' in the current climate is easy, but there are always some people and businesses with money to spend regardless of the economic situation.

At a very quick glance, they look comparable to or not as good as Rovers' offering. 

This is what it costs... Tbh, a 3-course meal, match ticket, programme, prosecco, tea/coffee and a pie for £70 isn't that bad. Once you take out the pie, programme and tickets, where else are you getting a decent 3-course meal from for under £50 these days?? 

I'd agree it offers less value for STHs but it's hardly wildly over-priced. 

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2 minutes ago, Michael W said:

Properly marketing it and providing decent advance notice of availability has therefore never been more important. 

This is pretty basic stuff we've failed at.

Sack the Board.

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5 minutes ago, Michael W said:

Properly marketing it and providing decent advance notice of availability has therefore never been more important. 

This is pretty basic stuff we've failed at. 

Is this another example of our CEO failing at her job or not putting too much effort into it because her hubby is no longer at the club

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1 hour ago, steakngravy said:

I have been told that the portacabin can only hold 20 people after all the necessary rework done inside the limit was reduced from 60 to 20 and this cost I am led to believe 120,00 pounds. It maybe a lot of tosh but in there there is a grain of truth. 

That can't be true, tell me the much publicised "biggest in Europe" portacabin hasn't been another white elephant?

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I wouldn’t say the price of hospitality is particularly bad, I think it’s the experience that’s the issue.

I did it last season and I thought there was a lot the club could have done better. To begin with, the Raith Suite felt too sterile. Dim the lights a bit and get some music on. The menu was something along the lines of steak pie or chicken and gravy. How about modernising it a bit and offering a burger and chips, or pizza or something a bit less boring. 

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4 minutes ago, Always next quarter said:

That can't be true, tell me the much publicised "biggest in Europe" portacabin hasn't been another white elephant?

I mean its not tiny, but its still a portacabin after all, you can see just how big it is from the stand. We were in it when the home shirt was released, its cosy with 20 and has some space cut off for a kitchen

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2 minutes ago, CountryBumpkin said:

I mean its not tiny, but its still a portacabin after all, you can see just how big it is from the stand. We were in it when the home shirt was released, its cosy with 20 and has some space cut off for a kitchen

Point is how valuable will it be. It seemed like a good idea but 60 down to 20 doesn't sound like it would have been viable for the outlay. 

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1 minute ago, Always next quarter said:

Point is how valuable will it be. It seemed like a good idea but 60 down to 20 doesn't sound like it would have been viable for the outlay. 

I don't recall 60 being mentioned previously, I do seem to remember the original plan was some office space, I assume to allow us to make the changes to the changing rooms and manager office in the main stand. 

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3 hours ago, Scary Bear said:

In the way that we know it’s coming but can’t or won’t do anything about it until it becomes the looming crisis that awaits us.

Did you read the post I responded to?

He ponders why it’s not more of a big deal, and to clarify, my general answer is ‘because it’s too big and scary and we don’t have a clue what to do about it’.

That is not kicking the can. Kicking the can means choosing to defer a decision on something difficult. My point is that fans have next to no power or influence when it comes the board change we would like to see. That much is proven at our club this year alone. To a certain, regrettable extent, we have to suck it up whilst Sim is in charge. We've seen good season ticket sales and strips purchased, so fans are clearly not of a mind to withhold money from the club. We can't buy him out unless he wants to sell, and fan-related appointments to the board can only exert as much influence as the owner and chief exec allow them to. Noisy protests and cardboard placards make a scene but wouldn't make Sim easier to deal with. More likely, as threatened, he walks away and closes us down.

So we're not kicking the can anywhere. We're not deferring anything because it's not ours to defer. We need to stay on our toes though. Who knows what circus will ensue once he decides he's had enough.

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