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1 minute ago, Shadwell Dog said:

Seems mcglynn was right royally pissed off with the way the bod expressed his involvement in the whole goodwillie saga and that's why he wants out. 

If that was the case what would be the point in McGlynn listening to what we had to offer and continue with negotiation talks? He'd be as well telling the club to bolt and that he wasn't interested in what we had to offer him. What would be the point in him telling punters at the POTY do that if a contract was put in front of him he'd have signed it by now? Whatever the reason we'll never know and we'll get the usual buzz words if he takes over at Falkirk "big club, new challenge, took Rovers as far as I could" which could all be the genuine reasons why he wanted to leave. Just missing the most important bit "...they offered me more money".

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Just looking back at our fixtures this season and the games I attended. We obviously didn’t get to see any of last season, and then this year I have been in the ground for 1 (one) away win - Falkirk in the cup in November - and 1 (one) home win - Partick Thistle in September. This means since March 7th 2020, when we beat Forfar at home, I have witnessed 2 wins. Why TF am I still going?! I think I’ll patch it, for the good of the club. 

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18 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said:

Seems mcglynn was right royally pissed off with the way the bod expressed his involvement in the whole goodwillie saga and that's why he wants out. The boy sim is some piece of work. He and Gary deans would make some pairing.

Thing is though he wanted DG , he suggested  it to the club so as much as I’m a big fan of Mcglynn he deserves some responsibility and flak for that , fully expecting Gary deans to be appointed to our board now 😂😂 or is ant n dec telling sim what to do for the shits and giggles 

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10 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Just looking back at our fixtures this season and the games I attended. We obviously didn’t get to see any of last season, and then this year I have been in the ground for 1 (one) away win - Falkirk in the cup in November - and 1 (one) home win - Partick Thistle in September. This means since March 7th 2020, when we beat Forfar at home, I have witnessed 2 wins. Why TF am I still going?! I think I’ll patch it, for the good of the club. 

I think it might've been Grant Murray's final season, despite having a season ticket I saw something like three goals at the South Stand end all year. Talk about value for money. 

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26 minutes ago, Smokerson said:

Why the disdain for James McPake? Not sure he actually did a bad job at Dundee at all.

Given the squad/budget he had it was pretty underwhelming to say the least, anyway dick is an auld boy now and needs to be nearer his care home not travelling up to Arbroath 3 times a week so he will be coming to us now thanks very much 😜

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12 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Just looking back at our fixtures this season and the games I attended. We obviously didn’t get to see any of last season, and then this year I have been in the ground for 1 (one) away win - Falkirk in the cup in November - and 1 (one) home win - Partick Thistle in September. This means since March 7th 2020, when we beat Forfar at home, I have witnessed 2 wins. Why TF am I still going?! I think I’ll patch it, for the good of the club. 

No Rovers fan has seen us win a home game in 2022.

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Firstly, it should be said, I’ve always been a fan of McGlynn and I always think managers should be judged on where the leave the club compared to where they were when they took over. On that front, it can’t be denied McGlynn has done a great job both times he has been our manager.

However, losing McGlynn doesn’t have to be a disaster. I think the panic from the fans is a sign of how little we trust the board to get the replacement right more than anything else. Ultimately, if Falkirk are throwing a lot of money at him along with a long term contract, we can’t and shouldn’t be doing that for a manager who has performed the way McGlynn has since January (form and the involvement in that signing). I would have been happy to see him continue on the same terms but his performance in recent months doesn’t justify breaking the bank for him.

However, the board surely can’t just line up James McPake as an immediate replacement without interviews and inviting applications as has been rumoured? I appreciate fans are keen for us to get a move on with signings for next season but I’d rather we took a couple of weeks to get the recruitment process correct and appoint the right person rather than rushing into another mistake because of timing.

Ray McKinnon was appointed on 23rd May and put together a new squad that finished 4th so it can be done. Yes, we were better after January that season but we were barely out the top 4 even before that.

The board have handled this whole thing appallingly but it’s important they don’t panic now and get the next appointment right and don’t compound their mistakes. We have the core of a decent squad signed up, if we get the next appointment right there is no reason next season has to be a mess and we can certainly improve on McGlynn’s last 4/5 months. 

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2 hours ago, Beastie Russell said:

And if said Assistant leaves, can we really still employ his wife as CEO ?

Conflict of interest potentially

I honestly believe there's more potential for a conflict of interest while husband and wife remain at the same club.

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Apart from Ludo mentioning it once, where else is the McPake stuff coming from? He mentioned McPake to Falkirk on our thread too but for obvious reasons hasn’t caught fire like it has on here.

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2 minutes ago, Trump said:

Apart from Ludo mentioning it once, where else is the McPake stuff coming from? He mentioned McPake to Falkirk on our thread too but for obvious reasons hasn’t caught fire like it has on here.

There hasn’t been a mention of him other than that. 

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2 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

There hasn’t been a mention of him other than that. 

A Rovers fan mentioned he has been lined up as replacement.

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Just now, Trump said:

Apart from Ludo mentioning it once, where else is the McPake stuff coming from? He mentioned McPake to Falkirk on our thread too but for obvious reasons hasn’t caught fire like it has on here.

 @spot on who is usually one of the #ITK posters as far as I am aware and posted yesterday that McPake was lined up as a replacement. That’s certainly why I’m fearful there might be some substance to it.

If they could come back and say they were at the wind up, it would make me feel a whole lot better.

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16 minutes ago, R.R.FC said:

I think the panic from the fans is a sign of how little we trust the board to get the replacement right more than anything else.

That's my worry and to be honest if we did somehow decide McPake was the man to be appointed as our new manager you can just see how they'd spin it "well McPake lead Dundee to the Premier League"....aye with a significantly bigger budget than us. Clearly the thought of McGlynn leaving has caught the board out, their own fault for dilly dallying and they're very misguided if they chose to delay things on the basis they felt McGlynn was a Rovers man and he's sign a new deal with no questions asked. Now it's panic stations by either convincing him to stay, with what I'd assume is by looking to offer him a bigger salery, or failing that frantically trying to find a new manager who can come in, get accustomed to things and who's already signed up, and recruit new players asap. 

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It’s clear that whatever happens now it’s not going to look great. I’d hoped that when the season ended it could have been a fresh start. How naive was i. 
 

For what it’s worth, if he goes then I’d be trying to get Kevin Thomson in as the new man 

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4 minutes ago, Railwaystand said:

It’s clear that whatever happens now it’s not going to look great. I’d hoped that when the season ended it could have been a fresh start. How naive was i. 
 

For what it’s worth, if he goes then I’d be trying to get Kevin Thomson in as the new man 

Imo if he does go should be looking at Murray at Airdrie ( play off depending)

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40 minutes ago, R.R.FC said:

However, losing McGlynn doesn’t have to be a disaster. I think the panic from the fans is a sign of how little we trust the board to get the replacement right more than anything else. Ultimately, if Falkirk are throwing a lot of money at him along with a long term contract, we can’t and shouldn’t be doing that for a manager who has performed the way McGlynn has since January (form and the involvement in that signing). I would have been happy to see him continue on the same terms but his performance in recent months doesn’t justify breaking the bank for him.

My concern is that Falkirk have known for a lot longer than we have that they need a new manager, and they're shopping in the exact same market we are. If they've decided that the best option out there is our existing manager (and on the available evidence I have to agree) that really doesn't bode well for us going forward. 

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Didn’t McGlynn say at the POTY awards that if a contract was there or comes up as he told a few people he would sign it? 
 

bit bizarre if it’s there on the table and he doesn’t sign it 

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9 minutes ago, Railwaystand said:

It’s clear that whatever happens now it’s not going to look great. I’d hoped that when the season ended it could have been a fresh start. How naive was i. 
 

For what it’s worth, if he goes then I’d be trying to get Kevin Thomson in as the new man 

I don't think Thomson has really shown anything special at Kelty. He won the league at a canter but had a budget way in excess of the rest of the league. His delivery is really in line with what everyone expected. 

Not that this automatically means he isn't a good manager or anything like that, but he certainly won't get what he has at Kelty at Raith. 

10 minutes ago, Raithie said:

That's my worry and to be honest if we did somehow decide McPake was the man to be appointed as our new manager you can just see how they'd spin it "well McPake lead Dundee to the Premier League"....aye with a significantly bigger budget than us. Clearly the thought of McGlynn leaving has caught the board out, their own fault for dilly dallying and they're very misguided if they chose to delay things on the basis they felt McGlynn was a Rovers man and he's sign a new deal with no questions asked. Now it's panic stations by either convincing him to stay, with what I'd assume is by looking to offer him a bigger salery, or failing that frantically trying to find a new manager who can come in, get accustomed to things and who's already signed up, and recruit new players asap. 

They really turned it around in January that season, having brought in a number of new players. Again, something that won't be possible with us. As you say, they were languishing a bit despite the bigger budget as well. 

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3 minutes ago, RRFC_Liam said:

Didn’t McGlynn say at the POTY awards that if a contract was there or comes up as he told a few people he would sign it? 
 

bit bizarre if it’s there on the table and he doesn’t sign it 

If you then get offered a massively improved contract and playing budget closer to your house, that would make you think twice. 

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