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3 minutes ago, Frank conner said:

No you're just a twat and if you don't come back no one will care.

So, just to be clear... did you welcome the Goodwillie transfer, were you dissapointed he didn't play for us?

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6 minutes ago, grumswall said:

OK John. 

Oh my is that it ? I really don't get what your trying to achieve but claiming to be so offended by this . RATM I get because for some bizarre reason he is no longer in the know although considering who left and who was kicked out kind of narrows down who was leaking information to this cretin in the first place. 

Opposition fans might fall for this but trying to get attention by falling on your sword so to speak is just  laughable. The true fans will be there next season with or without you get over it.

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11 minutes ago, renton said:

So, just to be clear... did you welcome the Goodwillie transfer, were you dissapointed he didn't play for us?

I didn't think it was a good signing but I didn't lose my shit over it. I would never turn my back on the Rovers especially for cheap acknowledgement on a football forum .

I was there during the Anelka debacle and that WAS a protest. What you lot did was nothing! You've spent more energy whining on this forum than you have making  a point at actual games. Tbf I'd respect your opinion more if you actually did something instead of trying to get cheap greenies from bored opposition fans.

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9 minutes ago, Frank conner said:

I didn't think it was a good signing but I didn't lose my shit over it. I would never turn my back on the Rovers especially for cheap acknowledgement on a football forum .

I was there during the Anelka debacle and that WAS a protest. What you lot did was nothing! You've spent more energy whining on this forum than you have making  a point at actual games. Tbf I'd respect your opinion more if you actually did something instead of trying to get cheap greenies from bored opposition fans.

Why did you think it wasn't a good signing? 

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14 minutes ago, Frank conner said:

Oh my is that it ? I really don't get what your trying to achieve but claiming to be so offended by this . RATM I get because for some bizarre reason he is no longer in the know although considering who left and who was kicked out kind of narrows down who was leaking information to this cretin in the first place. 

Opposition fans might fall for this but trying to get attention by falling on your sword so to speak is just  laughable. The true fans will be there next season with or without you get over it.

Yeah I was there for the anelka stuff as well... If you had a brain you'd understand the parallels between that period and this one. 

 

Do you not attempt to troll the pars fans for not seing the writing on the wall?

 

I couldn't give a f**k about a few green dots on here. Try answering a single question posed to you by anyone. Then try to act superior. Until then, you're just a troll. 

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3 hours ago, Frank conner said:

No you're just a twat and if you don't come back no one will care.

 

3 hours ago, Frank conner said:

The true fans will be there next season with or without you get over it.

See, you've repeatedly played the "why don't you do something more meaningful than posts on a forum if you care strongly about this" card, which could actually be considered a valid criticism if you were coming at this from the angle that the signing is a disgrace and Raith fans have fallen into line by treating things as business as usual far too easily after some half arsed apologies with no consequences for McGlynn whatsoever.

These posts however suggest that if people did do something such as a protest at games, you would be dismissing them as not being real Raith fans, asking why they can't just get over it, and ranting about them being 'woke' and easily offended because they have the temerity to think rape is a bad thing.

You probably don't even see the contradiction here, what with being so thick you can't spell your own username.

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4 hours ago, Grant228 said:

While he undoubtedly is a dreadful poster this is as valid a question to the normal Raith fans on this thread, as the ones they're asking Frank. 

 

What are yous going to do about the rape apologist running, and managing your club? A few weeks back McGlynn the rape apologist was getting his name sung for winning the challenge Cup, will it take Sim winning the playoffs to have his name chanted? 

The withdrawal of the volunteers was swift last time and at least prevented Goodwillie from playing for Raith, unless I've missed it there's been nothing at that horror statement. 

To say the fans have no power is ridiculous, withdraw your funds, withdraw your time, protest outside, but surely you have to do something? 

Spot on.

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I'm not surprised nor overly bothered over Sims opinions he expressed in that interview.

What bothers me is that it was a completely needless thing to do. It stoked a fire that was burning out and reignited an issue that the club could do without. It is, again, a pretty remarkable failure to read the room - and has people talking about Raith Rovers for very much the wrong reasons.

It's not going to be cause anywhere near as much of an stir as a few months ago, but it certainly doesn't help. It is quite surprising that someone who has held as senior a position across business as he has doesn't recognise the fact that sometimes shutting up is the best way forward. You don't have to completely agree with your customers, but at least appear as though you've taken their views on board and are using them to shape things for the future. I can't think of any other industry where you'd tell your customers to fuck3 off and go somewhere else if you aren't satisfied.

If I'm being cynical however, it could be partly designed to take attention away from the pretty stark collapse we have seen on the footballing side of things. Buried within that article is the fact that Sim knows about as much about the managerial situation as we do.

Harsh reality is that short to medium term the club heavily relies on him.  The best situation available really is trying to have as much separation between himself and the club as possible,  whilst still having the funding to exist.  Certainly doesn't appear at face value to be something that is particularly achievable at this stage.

In short, more fun and games.

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"Whatever people may think of me, I'm not a dictator" and "Well, if he can't play for the club, let's close the club" seems like a massive contradiction. 

Something has happened that he doesn't like so he's going to bring an end to nearly 140 years of history?

Very worrying that he's mentioned doing so as flippantly as he did. 

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"Whatever people may think of me, I'm not a dictator" and "Well, if he can't play for the club, let's close the club" seems like a massive contradiction. 
Something has happened that he doesn't like so he's going to bring an end to nearly 140 years of history?
Very worrying that he's mentioned doing so as flippantly as he did. 
It's like reading a statement from a Russian spokesperson. "Stop supplying weapons to Ukraine or there might be severe consequences".

I think Sim has gambled by trying to make people grateful he hasn't done anything extreme and also to dangle a proverbial carrot by talking about updating the stands, pitch and how well our sponsorship situation is. Instead all he's done is reopen the wounds.
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Just read through this. Did Sim actually say that he feels sorry a rapist. Raith Rovers stepping on more rakes. John Sim is no fan that’s for sure. No fan would admittedly want to close us down. 

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If the remaining people in the club with influence have its interests at heart, they need to demonstrate it by telling him what harm he is doing and that he needs to back away and keep his mouth shut. 

I'd like to see the Trust take the lead and push the board into this as far as possible. 

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