expatowner Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 59 minutes ago, Scottydog said: I keep saying it but if someone lost £300,000 for Sim, Sinton or McDonald's company they'd be gone the same day! Given that the directors are probably better described as unpaid volunteers that try to carry out Sims plans, I don't think its helpful to wish them gone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydog Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 14 minutes ago, expatowner said: Given that the directors are probably better described as unpaid volunteers that try to carry out Sims plans, I don't think its helpful to wish them gone. So they can do what they like completely without sanction? In any case I'm on record saying I don't want them all out, but there needs to be change and that means if not all, then at least some have to go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank conner Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 17 minutes ago, grumswall said: We won't know the true figure publicly until the accounts are published for this period. It's safe to assume based on what we have heard that the fee for goodwilllie is 50k+ and that his wage is over 1k a week before any bonuses. 2.5 year deal and there's the 200k loss to club funds. 10k a year for shirt sponsorship at this level is probably below the actual figure as well. Take in loss of match day sponsorhsip, tag pulling out which will probably mean the match day app, loss of streaming, loss of the players fund, walk ups for home games which also result in less money spent in the club shop etc. Like I said though, we won't know the true figure until the accounts are published for this time. I'm not sure why anyone would even attempt to defend a big loss is going to happen unless they're just trolling. I don't think it will result in us doing a Brechin, but there's a significant loss going to happen through it all. Who's defending a big loss? I'm just looking for the facts this situation isn't being helped by folk picking figures out of fresh air wether that's financial or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raith1974 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 52 minutes ago, Scottydog said: £60k transfer fee to Clyde and 134 weeks wages at £1k/week, that for starters and not including lost revenue from lower gates, less hospitality, huge drop in lotto and supporters fund. Losses won't be a kick on the arse of £250k this season alone. Add all those drops in revenue to the lost shirt and stand revenues and we could see as much as £100k wiped out of next seasons budget. If only 100 fans decide not to renew season tickets there's £30,000 out straight away. You are assuming Raith Rovers paid the transfer fee, I heard that an outside source paid this. You are also assuming that we will pay off his entire contract, I think you may find that a deal will be agreed between both parties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Why would Goodwillie agree to a deal? He's most likely not going to get another SPFL contract now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank conner Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Does anyone know if the directors are paying off at least part of his contract? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydog Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, raith1974 said: You are assuming Raith Rovers paid the transfer fee, I heard that an outside source paid this. You are also assuming that we will pay off his entire contract, I think you may find that a deal will be agreed between both parties. Hopefully that will be the case, but whether somebody else paid it and even if we reach agreement to pay half to DG it's still a whack of dosh that could have been spent improving the team and its still a large amount of money we stand to lose in knock-on losses, some already gone and some potentially. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Why would Goodwillie agree to a deal? He's most likely not going to get another SPFL contract now. This. Anyone in his position has a fair argument to take nothing less than his full wages for his full contract. He was brought in for that, so he should expect that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumswall Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Who's defending a big loss? I'm just looking for the facts this situation isn't being helped by folk picking figures out of fresh air wether that's financial or not.I didn't say you where. I made a broad statement that you seem to have taken offence to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank conner Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Rovers_Lad said: Its all guesswork from those that claim to be ITK It's strange how many folk used to be ITK but aren't anymore! Not that many people have walked from the club it certainly makes you wonder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith Against The Machine Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, Frank conner said: It's strange how many folk used to be ITK but aren't anymore! Not that many people have walked from the club it certainly makes you wonder. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverarover Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Based upon older financial statements, the stand sponsorship was at least £10,000 per annum, as were each of the home and away shirt sponsorships. A very conservative £30,000 on that alone, but a more comprehensive calculation totals up at least £200,000 this year alone before the compounded losses are considered.£10,000 to sponsor a championship club who reached the payoffs last season. f**k me what a fantastic deal...... For the sponsor. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverarover Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 But Sim is a rapist apologist!Just f#ck off mate and stick to your own clubs thread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverarover Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 10k stand sponsorship, 20k for shirt sponsorship seems a bargain basement price, But all these figures are just pure speculation and conjecture till someone comes along with concrete proof of what this will cost us or there are detailed accounts published at the end of the next accounting period (May?) That sounds far too low. I remember the season they sold tickets for the home shirt sponsorship. I'm sure the tickets came to £20k and that was year's ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Highlandmagyar Tier 3 said: But Sim is a rapist apologist! Is this a new take on rape apologist? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 46 minutes ago, foreverarover said: 4 hours ago, Highlandmagyar Tier 3 said: But Sim is a rapist apologist! Just f#ck off mate and stick to your own clubs thread Aww! Someone is upset. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 58 minutes ago, foreverarover said: 4 hours ago, TxRover said: Based upon older financial statements, the stand sponsorship was at least £10,000 per annum, as were each of the home and away shirt sponsorships. A very conservative £30,000 on that alone, but a more comprehensive calculation totals up at least £200,000 this year alone before the compounded losses are considered. £10,000 to sponsor a championship club who reached the payoffs last season. f**k me what a fantastic deal...... For the sponsor. 55 minutes ago, foreverarover said: 3 hours ago, SirJimmyofNic said: 10k stand sponsorship, 20k for shirt sponsorship seems a bargain basement price, But all these figures are just pure speculation and conjecture till someone comes along with concrete proof of what this will cost us or there are detailed accounts published at the end of the next accounting period (May?) That sounds far too low. I remember the season they sold tickets for the home shirt sponsorship. I'm sure the tickets came to £20k and that was year's ago. “at least” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverarover Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Aww! Someone is upset.If you've nothing to add to the conversation it's best to say nothing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastie Russell Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 We’ll this has turned into a borefest.. Folk asking questions that nobody knows the answer to, so answers get made up in the vacuum, and taken as truth. Rovers now destined for the lowland league. Major f**k up, change will happen, but it needs to be managed through a proper process. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specky Ginger Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, Beastie Russell said: Rovers now destined for the lowland league. Oh well, that's a relief. A couple of weeks ago people were on here saying it would be better if we went bust and reformed as a fan owned Phoenix club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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