The New Raith Rovers Thread

[Jilted John]

12 minutes ago, Broken Algorithms said:

That was a really good discussion on K107's pre-recording for the Saturday Sports show. I think the media focus will understandably die down over the next few days, but it's the Rovers fans who will be left to sift through the wreckage and figure out what the f**k we're going to do. We've known for years that John Sim has been the kingmaker and that his decision was final. I think it's time for our fans to start asking some very tough questions. There was a lot of talk on the show about the lack of diversity on the board. I'm not sure if @rentonwas listening in at all, but both myself and Margie Robertson (who joined later on) spoke about how there's a conflict of interest in the situation between Smith and McCartney. 

 

Is there really though?  I don’t think McCartney gets much of a say. She may be the CEO but she doesn’t run the club. She also doesn’t get to vote on board matters. I would agree it’s a strange set up however.

I’ve read a lot on the Goodwillie thing about how he never admitted his crime or sought forgiveness in order to deserve a second chance. I’m prepared to give the current BOD a chance to admit their mistakes and see what they aim to do to put things right before I lose complete faith in them.

The running of the club in recent years has been superb, let’s see what they can do now to rectify their own cluster f**k! Let’s be honest, we probably don’t have many others battering the door down to mount a takeover.

Edited February 3, 2022 by Jilted John

[DUAFC]

2 hours ago, Rob1885 said:

2 hours ago, Brother Blades said:

I’ve not commented on this thread since the news broke, I’ve no skin in the game but like many fans of other teams, initial reaction was shock & then sorrow for all right minded Raith fans & the further Kirkcaldy community in general.
I’ve enjoyed days out at Starks many moons ago & always enjoyed them.
My local team - Montrose - has deep seated links to the local area & is a true community club, as were Raith,  it’s a fantastic goal for any club to have & helps ensure the continued support, especially for lower league teams. I know how I would feel if it happened at Links Park.
I’ve a few comments to make.
What were the management & board thinking about even considering the signing initially? Mental!
What were they thinking even after the warnings when first mooted? Mental!
What were they thinking when they issued the statement doubling down on the decision? Mental!
What sort of communication is going on when the club captain defends the decision on footballing grounds in the press & a few short hours later is contradicted by a club statement? Mental.
Now! The really mental part of it, the guy I share a lift with to work had to leave early today due to illness, so I’ve had to get the train home, fortunately (I thought) it gave me time to have a couple of pints in a village pub before I jumped on the train. There were around 10 local guys in, discussing the whole thing, comments included-
“We’ve all done stupid stuff when we are drunk”
”The laddie has paid his debt & it was 10 years ago”
”That lassie was well compensated for a ride”
”They made a documentary about the other guy managing a team in Pakistan & there wasn’t an uproar about that!” - must admit this just confirmed my initial thoughts that nobody knew what they were talking about. 
“That Sturgeon has ruined the boys career”
I’d like to say I took the whole pub on & walked out a hero, I didn’t. I simply said to the barmaid, are you happy to work here amongst a bunch of guys who think rape is ok? Then I left.
This is not a football issue, it’s a society issue, I’m disgusted with the things I’ve heard today, as I thought we’d moved on a little. 
The Raith & perhaps Man U debacles have really brought things into focus in the last week, but! I’ll wager that after things settle down, there’ll be less & less focus on these issues. I’d like to see mandatory sexual violence awareness courses in EVERY workplace, I’d like to see football embracing this issue as they quite correctly do, racism.
Im shocked by how backward we still are when it comes to human decency. 
Good luck to Raith fans & well done to all fans of other clubs who supported them. 

Wrong David Robertson, brother blades.

I'm sort of guessing that was part of the point being made, but I may be wrong !

[Ro Sham Bo]

I'm afraid that anyone hoping that a scenario arises where McGlynn can be absolved of wrong doing here is almost certainly kidding themselves. 

There was an article in the Courier which said that McGlynn identified Goodwillie as his number one target and there is also the confirmation from McDermid that we tried to sign him a couple of years back when she was still on the board. 

It's a gross misjudgement, and that's putting in its very best light. 

I doubt he'll resign but he'll surely leave in the summer. 

[Jilted John]

1 minute ago, Ro Sham Bo said:

I'm afraid that anyone hoping that a scenario arises where McGlynn can be absolved of wrong doing here is almost certainly kidding themselves. 

There was an article in the Courier which said that McGlynn identified Goodwillie as his number one target and there is also the confirmation from McDermid that we tried to sign him a couple of years back when she was still on the board. 

It's a gross misjudgement, and that's putting in its very best light. 

I doubt he'll resign but he'll surely leave in the summer. 

I think you could be right about the summer resignation. 
 

I have a lot of time for Mcglynn like we probably all do. I’d like to think it was a gross misjudgment, I don’t think any of us really thought it would go as nuclear as it did. I think he and the board looked at Clyde and thought it would eventually slip away to a few boos from opposition supporters.

it’s what these guys do next that will determine what lessons have been learned. I’d like to see us use Rape Crisis Scotland as our shirt sponsors next season to replace the ones we lost for starters.

[DUAFC]

1 hour ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

It's Dion Dublin I'm most disappointed in.

Why what's he done.......NO don't tell me !!

[San Starko Rover]

31 minutes ago, Jilted John said:

Is there really though?  I don’t think McCartney gets much of a say. She may be the CEO but she doesn’t run the club. She also doesn’t get to vote on board matters. I would agree it’s a strange set up however.

I’ve read a lot on the Goodwillie thing about how he never admitted his crime or sought forgiveness in order to deserve a second chance. I’m prepared to give the current BOD a chance to admit their mistakes and see what they aim to do to put things right before I lose complete faith in them.

The running of the club in recent years has been superb, let’s see what they can do now to rectify their own cluster f**k! Let’s be honest, we probably don’t have many others battering the door down to mount a takeover.

The current BOD are utterly toxic to this club their chance to U-Turn and apologise was ended on Tuesday night when they doubled down on signing Goodwillie. Bill Clark and Andy Mill will not return while those 4 are pulling the strings, both our main sponsors have specifically highlighted them still being in place as the major problem. Signing Goodwillie wasn’t a little mistake it was a monumental one that probably eclipses Anelka and saw fans willing to sink the club rather than see him play for us. I agree they’ve done some good things in the past but they are utterly finished at RRFC, we keep this BOD you might as well close the club as we’ll be finished at the end of the season when we’ve no sponsorship. These 4, the CEO and John McGlynn  have been broadcast to the entire country (UK not just Scotland) as being the ones who signed Goodwillie. The small amount of goodwill we have is in spite of these people and due to the actions of the people who stood against them and I guarantee it won’t last if we keep them in place. 

Edited February 3, 2022 by San Starko Rover

[Highlandmagar]

1 hour ago, Scottydog said:

 I thought you should know, I'm so sorry that you had to find out this way.

I don't believe you. It's on the BBC for gawd's sake.

[Rovers_Lad]

This

When goodwillie left the building he should have held the door open for the rest to follow suit

[GordonD]

1 minute ago, Rovers_Lad said:

This

When goodwillie left the building he should have held the door open for the rest to follow suit

Presumably they were making sure it didn't hit him on the arse on the way out.

[Welly boy]

48 minutes ago, GordonD said:

What else are they going to do? The transfer window is shut so if they refuse to play alongside him they don't play anywhere. Probably better to have said nothing at all, except that everybody would have read volumes into that.

Do you really think if they had come out and said they won't play alongside him they would be sacked?  The uproar would be even worse than the actual signing of the rapist. So yes they should have spoken out like every man and there dog did.

[tazz1903]

9 hours ago, baillieinleeds said:

It still won’t be good enough for some. I’d rather he also decided to rip up the contracts of JMc and Smudger for sanctioning this signing. I’ve also sent a message to Alex Penman via Facebook to help get rid of Sim

Everyone involved in this signing should be removed from the club , Total disgrace 

[itzdrk]

3 hours ago, TheScarf said:

Manure Pooshited too.

Unfair Shitited 

[TheScarf]

1 minute ago, itzdrk said:

Unfair Shitited 

Lovely stuff.

[mugen_power]

26 minutes ago, Welly boy said:

Do you really think if they had come out and said they won't play alongside him they would be sacked?  The uproar would be even worse than the actual signing of the rapist. So yes they should have spoken out like every man and there dog did.

I said it a number of pages back

  

On 01/02/2022 at 17:29, mugen_power said:

Football players are like Boris Johnsons cabinet with their cronyism and boys club attitudes, a LOT of them will side with DGW and think the lassie was "at it" and the ones that don't will keep quiet for fear of being ostracised by their mates

They didn't speak out because they support him, the Gregory Tade and Kyle Benedictus views are what they all share unfortunately

[Hank Scorpio]

Very nice to have been out for the last 3 or 4 hours and not have 20+ new pages to read through. Saturday Sports Show was very good tonight, and enjoyed all contributors. A tough show show to chair but thought Grum did a cracking job. 

[Theroadlesstravelled]

You could tell McGlynn was a wrong’un when he wore and shirt and tie with the trackies.

[HIT THE CHANNEL]

13 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Very nice to have been out for the last 3 or 4 hours and not have 20+ new pages to read through. Saturday Sports Show was very good tonight, and enjoyed all contributors. A tough show show to chair but thought Grum did a cracking job. 

Is this available online anywhere mate? Really keen to listen. Also absolutely love Grum’s hosting, top class. 

[Hank Scorpio]

1 minute ago, HIT THE CHANNEL said:

Is this available online anywhere mate? Really keen to listen. Also absolutely love Grum’s hosting, top class. 

Will be on K107 on Saturday. Usually starts 1pm. Available online. 

[Hank Scorpio]

7 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

You could tell McGlynn was a wrong’un when he wore and shirt and tie with the trackies.

First time anyone has said this. Really funny. 

[itzdrk]

6 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

You could tell McGlynn was a wrong’un when he wore and shirt and tie with the trackies.