RRFC2711 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Well if we have approx 1500 season ticket holders and 1000 places allocated across the two games then approx one third of season ticket holders will not get a ticket for either game. It’s not surprising that a few on here fall into that category. What is confusing me is that we don’t have 1500 season ticket holders surely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildrover Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Yep, twice unlucky in the ballots, ach well have to hope for success in the cup draw 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanStarko Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, RRFC2711 said: What is confusing me is that we don’t have 1500 season ticket holders surely. They put on Twitter at the end of July that we were at over 1,200 season tickets at that point. You'd imagine there might have been a few more sold since then, plus all the Half Season tickets that they sold, and that'll take us up over the 1,500 mark. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 There was certainly over 100 half season ticket holders last time I saw an announcement, so must be close to 1,500. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser_soze Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 14 hours ago, CALDERON said: Can't go to this one, so really hoping the Banks O Dee ballot is excluding previous successful entrants again. Check the cup thread mate, given your address you should be able to get a ticket direct from Banks o Dee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.R.FC Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Yeah, we definitely have over 1500 season ticket holders, it was mentioned in the article around the ticketing arrangements. https://www.raithrovers.net/51752/ticketing-update.htm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydog Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Back of a fag packet calculation. I read that the Govt aid package (£1.75m) is to offset losses and expected to be recoup about 75% of lost income. The Pl only lost 1 round of fixtures with St Johnstone expected to be the biggest losers (6000 Celtic visitors). I reckon the Rovers should be asking for at least £40,000. Away fans for Pars (2000?) and Arbroath (600?) plus walk up home fans maybe a loss of £40k+? Then there's lost Hospitality for both games £10k+? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Scottydog said: Back of a fag packet calculation. I read that the Govt aid package (£1.75m) is to offset losses and expected to be recoup about 75% of lost income. The Pl only lost 1 round of fixtures with St Johnstone expected to be the biggest losers (6000 Celtic visitors). I reckon the Rovers should be asking for at least £40,000. Away fans for Pars (2000?) and Arbroath (600?) plus walk up home fans maybe a loss of £40k+? Then there's lost Hospitality for both games £10k+? To play devil's advocate, what happens if the government then say that Rovers had the chance to postpone those games to have a crowd in, but said no? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spot on Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Grant228 said: To play devil's advocate, what happens if the government then say that Rovers had the chance to postpone those games to have a crowd in, but said no? And if your granny had baws etc etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydog Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Grant228 said: To play devil's advocate, what happens if the government then say that Rovers had the chance to postpone those games to have a crowd in, but said no? I don't think that's the issue here though, surely if that were the case then the same rule would apply across the board and there would have been no offer from the Government in the 1st place? Either way there's also the argument that evenif the ties were played at a later date they'd have been to reduced crowds with little or no hospitality revenue from what could have been generated from a 3pm Saturday KO. Edited January 14, 2022 by Scottydog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Jack D Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, Grant228 said: To play devil's advocate, what happens if the government then say that Rovers had the chance to postpone those games to have a crowd in, but said no? The government not deciding, it will be SPFL/SFA divvying it up. It was SPFL who decided to carry on. If we get anything close to £40k I think we'd be delighted with that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoraith Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 To play devil's advocate, what happens if the government then say that Rovers had the chance to postpone those games to have a crowd in, but said no? They didn’t though. It wasn’t like the league asked if they wanted to postpone it and they said no. You could argue that they had the chance to ask for a postponement and chose not to (but even then we don’t know if that’s true- we might have asked and Dunfermline and Arbroath declined), but that’s an entirely different argument. And like Scotty says, if you go down that route then every club is in the same boat so no club should get any payment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 28 minutes ago, Double Jack D said: The government not deciding, it will be SPFL/SFA divvying it up. It was SPFL who decided to carry on. Was the clubs surely, it went to a vote? 3 minutes ago, stevoraith said: They didn’t though. It wasn’t like the league asked if they wanted to postpone it and they said no. You could argue that they had the chance to ask for a postponement and chose not to (but even then we don’t know if that’s true- we might have asked and Dunfermline and Arbroath declined), but that’s an entirely different argument. And like Scotty says, if you go down that route then every club is in the same boat so no club should get any payment. Some clubs did vote to postpone the league though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribzanelli Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Scottydog said: Back of a fag packet calculation. I read that the Govt aid package (£1.75m) is to offset losses and expected to be recoup about 75% of lost income. The Pl only lost 1 round of fixtures with St Johnstone expected to be the biggest losers (6000 Celtic visitors). I reckon the Rovers should be asking for at least £40,000. Away fans for Pars (2000?) and Arbroath (600?) plus walk up home fans maybe a loss of £40k+? Then there's lost Hospitality for both games £10k+? I imagine it will be a set rate based on what division you are. Certainly the hospitality industry got a set rate based on rateable value, they didn’t apply for £x on the basis that they lost y covers at £z per head. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 I thought it was mentioned on commentary for the Pars match that hospitality went ahead, so that can't be factored into any lost income calculation in any case. It will be an arbitrary amount based on which division you are in. There's no chance the SPFL are going to deal with this on a case by case basis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Jack D Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Grant228 said: Was the clubs surely, it went to a vote? Some clubs did vote to postpone the league though. The clubs are the SPFL. Yes it went to a vote but it was a group decision to play on regardless of individual votes. I doubt very much the cash will be distributed solely to those clubs who voted to postpone the season. I'd fully expect either a equal payout to all clubs at each level or a rate per home match missed for each level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Luke Mahady on loan to Burntisland Shipyard for the rest of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raith1974 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Broken Algorithms said: Luke Mahady on loan to Burntisland Shipyard for the rest of the season. Probably his level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Been going too long Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, Broken Algorithms said: Luke Mahady on loan to Burntisland Shipyard for the rest of the season. Good move for him, needs to play games 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Broken Algorithms said: Luke Mahady on loan to Burntisland Shipyard for the rest of the season. 5 minutes ago, Been going too long said: Good move for him, needs to play games Agree. 15 minutes ago, raith1974 said: Probably his level. Disagree Edited January 14, 2022 by TxRover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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