The New Raith Rovers Thread

[1320Lichtie]

18 minutes ago, SirJimmyofNic said:

Dont know why it couldn't have ended on friday, 2 days isn't gonna change things, but thats two games we'd have had a large crowd for thats cost us quite a few bob

Science TM

 

In fairness sure fans would be all for a Tuesday night or whatever but I think with us being PT we might just prefer the Saturday. Which is understandable 

[Ro Sham Bo]

2 hours ago, SirJimmyofNic said:

Dont know why it couldn't have ended on friday, 2 days isn't gonna change things, but thats two games we'd have had a large crowd for thats cost us quite a few bob

Exactly this. Not acceptable for the diddy clubs to let more than 500 in on Saturday but absolutely fine for 40,000 plus to be at Parkhead 48 hours later. 

Utter nonsense. 

[stevoraith]

Not sure you'd get a huge uptake for hospitality on a Monday night tbf.
Not sure you'd get a huge away contingent on a Monday night either.
So, 500 with folk paying for hospitality or 1000 (ish) without on a Monday.
I suspect the Maths comes out in favour of the Monday fixture but not sure it's as clear cut as all that.

Absolutely won’t be as clear cut, no.

For a start, the Saturday fixture has zero paying fans, plus however many in hospitality.

If it was midweek there would probably only be 300-400ish pay-at-the-gate fans (on top of the 1500ish ST) but very few hospitality punters.

Then there’s the added cost of policing and stewarding.

So does it really give the club much of a financial boost to play it midweek?

And I doubt if Police Scotland would be able to supply the required number of officers with a few days notice when they are facing record numbers of absences from work.

And that’s assuming Arbroath agree to move the date which seems highly unlikely considering it’s of absolutely zero advantage to them.

Although it would be nice for the people who have paid for season tickets to be able to get to the game, I think in reality it’s not worth it for the club to pursue.

[Paco]

Absolutely won’t be as clear cut, no.

For a start, the Saturday fixture has zero paying fans, plus however many in hospitality.

If it was midweek there would probably only be 300-400ish pay-at-the-gate fans (on top of the 1500ish ST) but very few hospitality punters.

Then there’s the added cost of policing and stewarding.

So does it really give the club much of a financial boost to play it midweek?

And I doubt if Police Scotland would be able to supply the required number of officers with a few days notice when they are facing record numbers of absences from work.

And that’s assuming Arbroath agree to move the date which seems highly unlikely considering it’s of absolutely zero advantage to them.

Although it would be nice for the people who have paid for season tickets to be able to get to the game, I think in reality it’s not worth it for the club to pursue.

‘Not worth it’ for the club to pursue letting fans in, who have paid to be there.

You’ll get a job with the government with an attitude like that.

[Ro Sham Bo]

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[Frankly, Mr Shankly]

4 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said:

Montrose FC (@MontroseFC) Tweeted: https://t.co/bchc5LgE4a https://twitter.com/MontroseFC/status/1480615425071362054?s=20

Unreal tweet

[stevoraith]

‘Not worth it’ for the club to pursue letting fans in, who have paid to be there.

You’ll get a job with the government with an attitude like that.

Well, yes, not worth it from a financial point of view.
Of course there’s the ethical argument which I completely missed….

[Rovers_Lad]

1 hour ago, stevoraith said:

Absolutely won’t be as clear cut, no.

For a start, the Saturday fixture has zero paying fans, plus however many in hospitality.

If it was midweek there would probably only be 300-400ish pay-at-the-gate fans (on top of the 1500ish ST) but very few hospitality punters.

Then there’s the added cost of policing and stewarding.

So does it really give the club much of a financial boost to play it midweek?

And I doubt if Police Scotland would be able to supply the required number of officers with a few days notice when they are facing record numbers of absences from work.

And that’s assuming Arbroath agree to move the date which seems highly unlikely considering it’s of absolutely zero advantage to them.

Although it would be nice for the people who have paid for season tickets to be able to get to the game, I think in reality it’s not worth it for the club to pursue.

Policing cost?

Thought we had virtually done away with police at our games

[tazz1903]

On 10/01/2022 at 16:17, steakngravy said:

Were they not pressmen and women?

Why do you think this is ok? 

[steakngravy]

No I don't but was just answering a question. By the way how is your team doing so far this season?

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8 hours ago, Broken Algorithms said:

Surely hospitality can't outweigh the revenue from 1500 folk. That's not even factoring Arbroath too.

I think the way the club may see it as 1500 people have already paid there money to the club and hospitality ( if it’s still allowed at the moment?) is extra income, that’s how a business would look at it plus your not giving a refund to the season ticket holder just access to a stream but potentially upsetting a hospitality customer/ potential new sponsor by changing the day of the game they are bringing people along and may not be a good idea, don’t shoot me just thinking out loud

Edited January 12 by Been going too long

[Been going too long]

11 hours ago, pub car king said:

It wouldn't surprise me if we are paying keatings wages in full and have told him to stay away. 

If that’s the case then I would rather he was at starks selling 50/50’s or making the gaffer a brew because hopefully he could manage that

[Zen Archer (Raconteur)]

4 minutes ago, Been going too long said:

If that’s the case then I would rather he was at starks selling 50/50’s or making the gaffer a brew because hopefully he could manage that

He might even manage one of these.

[Been going too long]

8 minutes ago, Zen Archer (Raconteur) said:

He might even manage one of these.

Only goal he will see at the San Starko 

[grumswall]

Only goal he will see at the San Starko 

Is that not why we signed him

[TxRover]

10 minutes ago, grumswall said:

Is that not why we signed him

 No, we signed him so he wouldn’t score against us.

[Been going too long]

5 hours ago, TxRover said:

 No, we signed him so he wouldn’t score against us.

That can be the only reason given how off it he looked pre season 

[Scary Bear]

10 hours ago, Rovers_Lad said:

Policing cost?

Thought we had virtually done away with police at our games

The police usually turn up at the end of the game to shut the road but for some reason they are happy for you to take your life in your hands crossing the road before the game. Sound logic from Police Scotland. No doubt there’s a Risk Assessment. 

They were out in force for the Dunfermline game. Obviously fears of bedsheet/car tipping mayhem at that one.

[Brashy's Boots]

The police usually turn up at the end of the game to shut the road but for some reason they are happy for you to take your life in your hands crossing the road before the game. Sound logic from Police Scotland. No doubt there’s a Risk Assessment. 
They were out in force for the Dunfermline game. Obviously fears of bedsheet/car tipping mayhem at that one.

Heavy police presence required to handle the massive crowd of away suppor.......oh, hang on....

[Hank Scorpio]

Every time I go to Starks’ Park I am amazed that cars are allowed up the street before a game. Pratt Street always used to be closed at Links Street before and after games, which was safe. Now, if you’re approaching the ground from the Beveridge Park end, getting across the road isn’t possible until you get to the bottom of the ramp, which is on a corner. There must be loads of near misses every week. It will unfortunately probably take someone being knocked down for it to change.