Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, SteveAn said: What was Duku like for you guys? Is he decent? He falls down a lot and quite often takes a nap whilst down there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers1992/1993 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 What was Duku like for you guys? Is he decent?Was fine for the first third of the season. Did nothing of note from then until the end of the season though. You’ll struggle to find many fans that wanted to keep him despite him being our top scorer which says it all really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brashy's Boots Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 I think the last player I booed was Allan Walker, for having a strop and offering people outside for a fight. The wee fanny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJimmyofNic Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, SteveAn said: What was Duku like for you guys? Is he decent? Started off like a house on fire, caught covid and disappeared, reputedly disruptive in the dressing room And you will be his 23rd club since he started playing in 2003, says it all really Edited June 16, 2021 by SirJimmyofNic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, SirJimmyofNic said: Started off like a house on fire, caught covid and disappeared, reputedly disruptive in the dressing room And you will be his 23rd club since he started playing in 2003, says it all really 2003 when he was 11? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJimmyofNic Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, TheScarf said: 2003 when he was 11? Granted his first 3 clubs were at youth level, but from 2011 its still a high count 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaithRover123 Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Grant murray assistant coach to Laurie Ellis at Queen’s Park 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disgruntled Goat Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, RaithRover123 said: Grant murray assistant coach to Laurie Ellis at Queen’s Park Edited June 16, 2021 by Disgruntled Goat 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Ellis and Murray with John Mcglynn as director of football. Its gonna happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 3 hours ago, CALDERON said: Ellis and Murray with John Mcglynn as director of football. Its gonna happen. Can we get Calderon in as well as technical director? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 A friendly with QP must be absolutely nailed on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spot on Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Nothing new in today’s FFP signing wise although a load of pictures of the guys training. Just a pity that the journalist didn’t bother to add the correct name to many of the players photos 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Enigma said: Can we get Calderon in as well as technical director? Don't think I'd be very good, but I'll give it a go. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specky Ginger Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Just now, spot on said: Nothing new in today’s FFP signing wise although a load of pictures of the guys training. Just a pity that the journalist didn’t bother to add the correct name to many of the players photos The Fife Free Press has become embarrassingly bad over recent times. Last week's had a picture of Iain Ballantyne supposedly scoring the winner against Hibs at Easter Road, only it wasn't against Hibs and the pic was taken at Stark's Park. If I could be bothered, I would cite dozens of other examples. I stopped buying it ages ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoraith Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Yeah, I fear you're right. As you can already see there'll be people who are booing him "because he's a diver" but the optics (acoustics?) of that really aren't great. Best thing to do is absolutely to just ignore him entirely and hope he has a quiet game! Nah, not having that. There is absolutely no defence for Davidson’s reaction. Not condoning that in the slightest. However, the guy has conned the ref into sending off our player for an innocuous challenge. We’re supposed to be getting that sort of thing out of the game. If Todorov was Scottish the young team would be giving him absolute pelters the next time he came to Starks. Likewise if Davo hadn’t made an arse of himself the focus would be on Todorovs cheating and he’d be getting pelters. Positive discrimination is still discrimination. Give him pelters for being a cheating twat, none of this “oh we can’t shout at him in case we’re seen as racist”. His ethnic origin should have feck all to do with anything. I’m an old boring man so I’ll not do anything so uncouth as boo a player but the young team should be getting ripped right into him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGuigan1978 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Celtic fans started booing Shea Logan right after Aleksander Tonev was found guilty of racially abusing him, and it was a f***ing terrible look. They also came out with the same limes being trotted out here, “No no, it’s because he’s a bad egg rather than us being tribal around an issue there shouldn’t be any tribalism about” It would be absolutely mortifying if we booed Todorov after this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith Against The Machine Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, stevoraith said: Nah, not having that. There is absolutely no defence for Davidson’s reaction. Not condoning that in the slightest. However, the guy has conned the ref into sending off our player for an innocuous challenge. We’re supposed to be getting that sort of thing out of the game. If Todorov was Scottish the young team would be giving him absolute pelters the next time he came to Starks. Likewise if Davo hadn’t made an arse of himself the focus would be on Todorovs cheating and he’d be getting pelters. Positive discrimination is still discrimination. Give him pelters for being a cheating twat, none of this “oh we can’t shout at him in case we’re seen as racist”. His ethnic origin should have feck all to do with anything. I’m an old boring man so I’ll not do anything so uncouth as boo a player but the young team should be getting ripped right into him. I understand that, but there's a bigger picture. I remember years back, there was a regular habit of signing "Who's the monkey in the gloves?" to the opposition goalkeeper, and a discussion emerged (I think in theory only, I don't think it actually came from an actual incident) about whether or not the song should continue if we faced a black goalkeeper. One side of the argument went that they've been calling every goalkeeper a monkey, so it would be "positive discrimination" to stop just for someone who's black, and the other side went... you can't be calling a black person a monkey, regardless of wider circumstance or context! I believe there's an ongoing debate in Ayrshire (I think it's Kilmarnock but it could be Ayr United, forgive me) because they've got a song they've sung for years that features the phrase "black b*****ds". Now, like in Fife, "black" has long been a byword for "dirty" or "unclean" without any hint of racial connotations, but at a certain point you've got to look at it and say "could that be misconstrued by someone who doesn't have the full context?" and the answer is undoubtedly that yes, it could. In a very similar situation to our own, there was an incident in a game between Celtic and Aberdeen a few years back, where Shay Logan alleged racist abuse, and still to this day is booed by Celtic fans. Now if you ask the Celtic fans why, they'll tell you that it's because he's a wind-up merchant, or a cheat, or a something else, but it's still a really bad look to be booing someone who was the victim of racist abuse, especially in Todorov's case where his allegation was proven. I'm not suggesting we set up a support group for him or clap him onto the park, but I really, really don't want a visitor at the first derby (let alone a member of the press) turning to the person next to them to say "Why are they booing the big number nine? Isn't he the one who was racially abused?" There might be other reasons to dislike him, they might be entirely justified, but deciding to take a stand over this "dive" (particularly when there are a dozen other players who take a dive at Stark's every season) is just a really, really bad look, and looks matter. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith Against The Machine Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Or, you know, what he said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoraith Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 If Shane Sutherland had been the one that got Davo sent off we wouldn’t be having this conversation which is a really sad state of affairs. Maybe I’m just naive and think we should be able to live in a world where there is no discrimination at all and you should be able to call a c*nt a c*nt without giving thought to what variety of c*nt he is and whether that has an influence on whether it’s ok to call him a c*nt or not. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser_soze Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 37 minutes ago, Raith Against The Machine said: I remember years back, there was a regular habit of signing "Who's the monkey in the gloves?" to the opposition goalkeeper, and a discussion emerged (I think in theory only, I don't think it actually came from an actual incident) about whether or not the song should continue if we faced a black goalkeeper. One side of the argument went that they've been calling every goalkeeper a monkey, so it would be "positive discrimination" to stop just for someone who's black, and the other side went... you can't be calling a black person a monkey, regardless of wider circumstance or context! Was when Ludovic Roy was playing against us for Ayr, always gave the opposition keeper the chant when he appeared in the south stand goal, think it was about a 50/50 split whether it should have been done or not, was probably around 17/18 years ago 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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