Raith_Raver Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 31 minutes ago, keyser_soze said: A bit lke the rest of your post, everyone knows the step from League 1 to the Champonship is the biggest step in Scottish football, going from in the main from part time to playing a mostly full time league is a huge step, the difference between the top of the championship and bottom of the top flight is small and mainly down to the finances awarded by being in the Premier division. Survival was our ultimate goal, we have surpassed that with flying colours, the fact we lost 2nd spot on the last game although dissapointing was not unexpected given the opposition. Even the most optomistic in our support would not have put us in the promotion play offs given the calibre of teams we were facing this season. Calibre of teams - Alloa Arbroath Morton Ayr QOS, Dunfermline, ICT - aye, pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers1992/1993 Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Calibre of teams - Alloa Arbroath Morton Ayr QOS, Dunfermline, ICT - aye, pish. Arbroath absolutely humiliated us just 2 years ago in the league below. Morton and Qos are 2 established championship clubs. Ayr have finished in or around the promotion playoffs the last 2 years. Dunfermline’s budget will have been far greater than ours. We have never beaten ICT yet. We have an absolutely awful record against Alloa. So yeah the calibre of teams was definitely far greater than that leagues been for a while. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith_Raver Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 26 minutes ago, Rovers1992/1993 said: Arbroath absolutely humiliated us just 2 years ago in the league below. No they didn't. Morton and Qos are 2 established championship clubs. They're not bigger clubs than us - how is that evidence of a high quality league? Ayr have finished in or around the promotion playoffs the last 2 years. Which suggests the cailbre isn't that great after all? Dunfermline’s budget will have been far greater than ours. So what? We have never beaten ICT yet. Not true, but if you mean this season it's not because they're a better team We have an absolutely awful record against Alloa. Really? We've just beate them three times. The fact that such a small club has held its own is contra indicative of high calibre football. Yeah the calibre of teams was definitely far greater than that leagues been for a while. Alloa Morton Ayr Arbroath and QOS cannot be described as "high calibre" teams, and I would hesitate to describe ICT Dunfermline and Dundee as such either. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Calibre of teams - Alloa Arbroath Morton Ayr QOS, Dunfermline, ICT - aye, pish. Which is still quite a jump from East Fife, Montrose or Peterhead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith_Raver Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said: Which is still quite a jump from East Fife, Montrose or Peterhead. There's not that much in it. Look how teams dropping down into the First almost invariably struggle, and Partick and Falkirk are bigger clubs than Rovers, Ayr, Alloa, Arboath, QOS and Morton. Struggling Falkirk had no trouble seeing of Arbroath in the Cup at Gayfield, and Partick had to bring in players to overcome a disastrous start. Airdrieonians are no minnows either. Of course a largely part time league with two or three full time clubs is going to be of a lower standard than a mostly full time league with two or three part time teams. But the gulf isn't as great as some are making out, there's an overlap between all the divisions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Over the last ten years, including ourselves four League 1 Champions have finished in the top 4. Five of them finished 5th. Cowdenbeath finished 8th, which I’m sure was still success for them. I don’t say that to belittle our season, only Livingston have bettered it and Rangers equalled it. It’s undoubtedly a big step up but it isn’t one that seems to really trouble League 1 champions historically. It’s a blow to finish 3rd when we were four clear in second with two remaining. Arguably a different run of fixtures, with Dundee/Hearts are the start of the final third rather than the end, might’ve seen us in third place much earlier and going into the play-offs happily and with optimism rather than feeling let down. A normal 36 game season would’ve seen Dundee due to come to Starks rather than the imbalance of playing them away twice but home once. Maybe we’d have reclaimed 2nd. It’s been a very good season overall, and I think we’d have been a bit more appreciative of it if we were in the ground. But I never really subscribed to one point above 9th representing true success this season, it would’ve been fine and acceptable. Nonetheless I always fancied a shot at the promotion play-offs but in truth probably expected us to come up short.We haven’t, we made it fairly comfortably in the end, and there isn’t really anything between us/Dundee/Dunfermline. I don’t feel great about our chances without Musonda in defence, but play-off ties can turn on a single moment, a mistake, a refereeing blunder. Our last three games have seen refereeing blunders! Let’s see how the next week plays out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I hope that report about Matthews being back for the play offs wasn't based on any assumption we'd finish 2nd and buy another week of recovery time for him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 How much are Aberdeen due you for Raegan Hendry? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithie Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, Mr. Alli said: How much are Aberdeen due you for Raegan Hendry? Heehaw, he's out of contract at the end of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 Driving past Aberdeens training ground every week with Hendry there would be like having to drive past your ex burds house every week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Brilliant Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 27 minutes ago, Raithie said: Heehaw, he's out of contract at the end of the season. We'd be due a few seasons' development if we offer him a contract surely? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, L. Brilliant said: We'd be due a few seasons' development if we offer him a contract surely? He’s too old for that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 19 hours ago, keyser_soze said: A bit lke the rest of your post, everyone knows the step from League 1 to the Champonship is the biggest step in Scottish football, I'm not sure, I think the jump from Championship to Premiership is bigger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr. Alli said: How much are Aberdeen due you for Raegan Hendry? You seeing this anywhere else or did you see the lad post it on our thread? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumswall Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 You seeing this anywhere else or did you see the lad post it on our thread?He's been rumoured to be going to quite a few teams so can only assume its that or a trolling attempt. The two reasons not being mutually exculisve. Good signing for you if it is true though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, grumswall said: 42 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: You seeing this anywhere else or did you see the lad post it on our thread? He's been rumoured to be going to quite a few teams so can only assume its that or a trolling attempt. The two reasons not being mutually exculisve. Good signing for you if it is true though. I'd genuinely never heard of him until I saw the St Johnstone fans hoping they signed him. Watched a few Raith Rovers games/highlights when Ethan Ross was there and thought quite a few of the players were very good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumswall Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I'd genuinely never heard of him until I saw the St Johnstone fans hoping they signed him. Watched a few Raith Rovers games/highlights when Ethan Ross was there and thought quite a few of the players were very good.Hendry would be a good signing for both of you imo. Shows alot of natural ability. Good range of passing and likes to dictate play. Drops deep to pick the ball up but is comfortable further up the pitch as well. Only need to look at his goal against dunfermline to see it all in action.Has Ross had much of a chance since he was recalled? I quite liked him and think he suited our play more than Kennedy has since then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 56 minutes ago, grumswall said: Hendry would be a good signing for both of you imo. Shows alot of natural ability. Good range of passing and likes to dictate play. Drops deep to pick the ball up but is comfortable further up the pitch as well. Only need to look at his goal against dunfermline to see it all in action. Has Ross had much of a chance since he was recalled? I quite liked him and think he suited our play more than Kennedy has since then. I've watched a few bits and pieces but trying not to get too excited until it sounds like a goer. That was lovely goal, saw it earlier on this evening. No, not had enough of a chance. One start I think. He came back at a time when McInnes was desperate to stay in a job. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumswall Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 I've watched a few bits and pieces but trying not to get too excited until it sounds like a goer. That was lovely goal, saw it earlier on this evening. No, not had enough of a chance. One start I think. He came back at a time when McInnes was desperate to stay in a job. Ross was good once he started being more direct and running at players. For reference, look at his goal against Alloa.I'm still foolishly holding out hope that he won't sign on elsewhere until our season is finished and if we go up he stays with us.Probably speaks volumes that when we signed him permanently mcglynn built the team around him, even if that was in league 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 16 hours ago, Merkland Red said: You seeing this anywhere else or did you see the lad post it on our thread? I just seen the post on the Aberdeen forum and was wondering how much he'd be costing. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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