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It shows how fucking awful much of that team was that we were nowhere near going up even with Nisbet in the team. 

Any credit Barry Smith gets for signing him is completey removed by the absolute nightmare he made if trying to assemble a squad that season. 

 

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54 minutes ago, grumswall said:

Did you just double up on him aswell?

Nisbet was our only threat that season (a good one at that) if you stopped him playing we really didn't offer much going forward.

Dugan should have gotten us a penalty in the second leg, shame he was injured so much 

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12 minutes ago, CALDERON said:

It shows how fucking awful much of that team was that we were nowhere near going up even with Nisbet in the team. 

Any credit Barry Smith gets for signing him is completey removed by the absolute nightmare he made if trying to assemble a squad that season. 

 

If it wasn’t for injuries when McGlynn took over what a squad that could’ve been Vaughan, nisbet, Armstrong and hendry going forward 

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Aye I think duggan would have been a good signing if he had stayed fit. Showed in flashes he was a decent enough player.

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26 minutes ago, grumswall said:

Aye I think duggan would have been a good signing if he had stayed fit. Showed in flashes he was a decent enough player.

But for Vaughnies hatrick against the Pars Duggan would have been motm that day, he was awesome.

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But for Vaughnies hatrick against the Pars Duggan would have been motm that day, he was awesome.
Did he end up back in Australia after leaving the Fife?

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57 minutes ago, CALDERON said:

It shows how fucking awful much of that team was that we were nowhere near going up even with Nisbet in the team. 

Any credit Barry Smith gets for signing him is completey removed by the absolute nightmare he made if trying to assemble a squad that season. 

 

It was simply dross.  There were a lot of players who either weren't of a good enough standard (Wedderburn, McGuffie, and rather disappointly, Crane), with poor attitudes (Flanagan, Barjonas) and inconsistent (Gillespie). It was unfortunate to lose Vaughan, Hendry and Armstrong throughout the season, but we'd still have probably missed out due to how awful that defence was. Arbroath had an utterly disgusting run of form during the first half of that season and we got no breaks. In the second half of the season we fell apart with some utterly comically bad results (in particular, Brechin away where Vaughan did his ACL again). 

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2 hours ago, grumswall said:
2 hours ago, Scottydog said:
But for Vaughnies hatrick against the Pars Duggan would have been motm that day, he was awesome.

Did he end up back in Australia after leaving the Fife?

That was the report on the EF thread back in January. Retired Jan 1 to return to Oz.

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It was simply dross.  There were a lot of players who either weren't of a good enough standard (Wedderburn, McGuffie, and rather disappointly, Crane), with poor attitudes (Flanagan, Barjonas) and inconsistent (Gillespie). It was unfortunate to lose Vaughan, Hendry and Armstrong throughout the season, but we'd still have probably missed out due to how awful that defence was. Arbroath had an utterly disgusting run of form during the first half of that season and we got no breaks. In the second half of the season we fell apart with some utterly comically bad results (in particular, Brechin away where Vaughan did his ACL again). 


Vaughan did his ACL up in Forfar when we won at the death 2-1

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Vaughan did his ACL up in Forfar when we won at the death 2-1
That was the 3rd time. I'm talking about the second time. Nisbet replaced him and scored that day (it was a week or two after Vaughan fired in his hattrick).

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That was the 3rd time. I'm talking about the second time. Nisbet replaced him and scored that day (it was a week or two after Vaughan fired in his hattrick).

Exactly a week

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13 hours ago, Broken Algorithms said:

It was simply dross.  There were a lot of players who either weren't of a good enough standard (Wedderburn, McGuffie, and rather disappointly, Crane), with poor attitudes (Flanagan, Barjonas) and inconsistent (Gillespie). It was unfortunate to lose Vaughan, Hendry and Armstrong throughout the season, but we'd still have probably missed out due to how awful that defence was. Arbroath had an utterly disgusting run of form during the first half of that season and we got no breaks. In the second half of the season we fell apart with some utterly comically bad results (in particular, Brechin away where Vaughan did his ACL again). 

You're right in that there was a lot of dross in Smith's squad, but Barjonas and McGuffie were McGlynn signings. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Raith Against The Machine said:

Was it Kevin Cuthbert who played Nisbet at right back? Halcyon days. 

Indeed it was, a week after the 5-0 defeat at Ross County, the only game I have ever left in the first half. 

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25 minutes ago, Specky Ginger said:

You're right in that there was a lot of dross in Smith's squad, but Barjonas and McGuffie were McGlynn signings. 

 

As was Crane. 

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None of the loan players that Mcglynn brought in that season, Hendry excepted, looked up to it at all.  In hindsight he isn't a "firefighting" manager, rather one that you need to let build a squad - as we saw the season past.

However, for context, this is the team that started the first league game of that season away to Stranraer.  

Wright, Watson, Valentine, Murray, Benedictus, Gillespie, Buchanan, Matthews, Wedderburn, Nisbet, McKay.
Subs, McGuff, Milne, Flanagan, Stevenson

 

 

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I just went back and read through the threads for that Brechin game, and the following week at home to Montrose. 

Deary me, Cuthbert made some choices. I think my favourite bit might be when the team lines go up for the second game, and there are four or five legitimate guesses as to who might be playing right back, and they were all wrong. Having failed with Nisbet at wing back the week before, he'd gone for Euan Murray in that role instead. 

The Brechin game was also the one that was watched by an incredibly conspicuous Nacho Novo, who might as well have been wearing a high vis vest and waving an "employ me" flag. 

That was September 2018. Less than two years ago. John McGlynn's name isn't mentioned once on either of those threads. A real sliding doors moment. 

Anyone want to hazard a guess as to where they think we'd be if the board had given Cuthbert, or (God forbid) Novo, the job full-time? 

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9 minutes ago, CALDERON said:

None of the loan players that Mcglynn brought in that season, Hendry excepted, looked up to it at all.  In hindsight he isn't a "firefighting" manager, rather one that you need to let build a squad - as we saw the season past.

However, for context, this is the team that started the first league game of that season away to Stranraer.  

Wright, Watson, Valentine, Murray, Benedictus, Gillespie, Buchanan, Matthews, Wedderburn, Nisbet, McKay.
Subs, McGuff, Milne, Flanagan, Stevenson

 

 

The only thing I would say in defence of Smith that season is he was quoted early on as saying he had no money to increase the squad, but when McGlynn came in he was able to make 2 or 3 loan signings immediately. 

Of course it could be that the board didn't give Smith the funds because they didn't trust him to spend it well, which would've been entirely understandable.

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The only thing I would say in defence of Smith that season is he was quoted early on as saying he had no money to increase the squad, but when McGlynn came in he was able to make 2 or 3 loan signings immediately. 
Of course it could be that the board didn't give Smith the funds because they didn't trust him to spend it well, which would've been entirely understandable.


McGlynn immediately signed Hendry, Crane and Kevin Silva on loan from Hearts, but bear in mind Kieran Wright and Grant Gillespie both got long-term injuries in Cuthbert’s final match, a fortunate 1-1 home draw with Montrose. Nisbet played right wing back and Vaughan was at defensive midfield. Crazy really.

Wright never played for us again and Gillespie wasn’t seen until December, so really Crane was the only real signing - the claim was Smith had someone lined up before he quit as well.

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