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29 minutes ago, stevoraith said:

You’re right Enigma, but that is the fault of the people running Dunfermline at that point and of the people running Scottish football.

 

In all honesty I’m sure Raith fans would have behaved exactly the same as Dunfermline fans did in the circumstances- deep down you know it’s probably not sustainable but you kind of trust that the people running the club must surely know what they’re doing and you get on with enjoying the success on the pitch.

 

 

 

"kind of trusting that the people in charge know what they're doing" is an outdated view though. Fan involvement is hugely increasing across all clubs precisely because fans feel those in charge don't know what they're doing. Fans of all clubs should be on the ball with this stuff nowadays, enough clubs have been heavily mismanaged now that simply trusting whatever businessman is in charge to run things properly is irresponsible IMO.

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Ladies and gents, I posted this in the cup thread but likely get far more eyes here:
 
For the Rovers fans planning on getting up nice and early for the Challenge Cup final , the Tullochs social club is already full (I assume with Rovers fans as a couple of buses I know and are full are going there - and when we phone yesterday we were told there was no room at the inn).

The only two pubs remotely close by  to the ground are the Glover arms and Welcome In - both 15-20 min walks. We have booked tables in the Glover Arms. It is likely the ICT buses/fans may seek these out with Tulloch's being full, so as one Rovers fan to another, get yourselves booked in first!

 

 

 



We’re booked into Tullochs. Hope it’s bouncing.

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"kind of trusting that the people in charge know what they're doing" is an outdated view though. Fan involvement is hugely increasing across all clubs precisely because fans feel those in charge don't know what they're doing. Fans of all clubs should be on the ball with this stuff nowadays, enough clubs have been heavily mismanaged now that simply trusting whatever businessman is in charge to run things properly is irresponsible IMO.


Yes it’s outdated now, but we’re talking about 10-15 years ago....... the reason it’s outdated now, and the reason the fan involvement you talk about is happening is precisely because of the events of 10-15 years ago.

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IMG_4215.thumb.jpg.ec02d0042783bc577626f87a779ed228.jpg

 

Can anyone remember if the Ormond stand was the one we were in for the semi in ‘94?

 

I have a feeling it was the North stand?

 

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3 minutes ago, stevoraith said:

 

Can anyone remember if the Ormond stand was the one we were in for the semi in ‘94?

 

I have a feeling it was the North stand?

 

East Stand.

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45 minutes ago, Zen Archer Esq. said:

East Stand.

We were in the Ormond Stand that day too. Airdrie were in the North. Bit of both in the Main Stand.

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3 minutes ago, Scary Bear said:

We were in the Ormond Stand that day too. Airdrie were in the North. Bit of both in the Main Stand.

No Scary, we were in the North stand and East stand. Filled the North and 3/4 filled the East. Airdrie were behind the goals the penalties were shooting into 

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6 hours ago, da_no_1 said:

OK I'll bite. So what do you think we as Dunfermline fans should have done when the financial results were announced every year? Protested outside the ground? Boycotted games? I see a lot of you guys worried that Raith are losing a fortune in League 1 & the year-on-year losses are being covered by John SIm/BOD members/soft loans. On a smaller scale granted, but in principle what's the difference? You're spending more than you take in & surely you have been for the last 3 years. The question is how long can it go on for and by your logic how long do YOU let it go on for! Fact is, we had a BOD who spent way, way more than they ever had a chance to bring in. Compared now to15 years ago (when the real damage was done at EEP), fans had little or no say in the running of clubs to an extent that would allow the ordinary punter to be made fully aware of how their club was being run. By the time we got wind of what was really going on, it was 5 years too late. Almost everyone who was involved then has been chased out of the club & football in general (bar Jim Leishman who as far as I know is pretty much just a hospitality host) 

We did go into administration. We did shaft a lot of creditors. It was embarrassing & was a horrible, horrible time to be a Dunfermline fan and the last few years haven't been much better. I wouldn't wish that on any clubs' fans. That worry of not knowing whether your club will survive or not is still really fresh in my mind & it annoys me that you think we're lording it up cash rich a league above you, when the truth is most of us are fully aware that the Lifeline & volunteers are still crucial to the ongoing survival of DAFC

 

 

 

 

Arent dunfermline due to announce significant losses ?

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So that’s about a 3500 split. Will that be enough?
They appear to have left a stand free so I'm sure there'll be more tickets available if required.

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No Scary, we were in the North stand and East stand. Filled the North and 3/4 filled the East. Airdrie were behind the goals the penalties were shooting into 

This sounds right.

I knew that as you viewed it from the TV we were behind the goal to the left, penalties were taken to the right.

Just didn’t know if the TV cameras were in the main stand or east stand.

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17 minutes ago, pantene proV said:

No Scary, we were in the North stand and East stand. Filled the North and 3/4 filled the East. Airdrie were behind the goals the penalties were shooting into 

Aye, you’re right enough. There was definitely fans in the Main Stand too. I know cause I was on the pitch at the end and there was a skull and crossbones flag and a wee pocket of them in there.

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Arent dunfermline due to announce significant losses ?

Do you know something we don't? Anyway, we've got a player to sell in the summer so it's all good

 

Thanks for caring though!

 

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10 hours ago, CALDERON said:

Mckay is a better option at RB than Watson. 

Depends on the goal. As a pure, hang back defender, I’d agree. But I think Watson brings more to the game if the play is a back bombing up the wing and crossing.

10 hours ago, Rovers1992/1993 said:

By what Logic? The logic that McGlynn is playing McKay as our RB and leaving Miller and Watson on the bench? McKay is our first choice RB at the minute. McKay has probably started more games for us as a RB than as a CB  

I don’t think I’ve ever seen Bene start a game as our LB yet.

 

Edit to add.. I don’t agree that McKay should be a RB and he’s far better in the middle than out there but that’s not for me to say. The fact that McGlynn is going with him out there shows that he’s our first choice at the minute. And I trust McGlynn with whatever he does.

 

Miller, I think was all agree is our #1 RB/RWB. As I note above, Watson is a better crossed and threat than McKay, IMO.

Our effective “cover” for MacDonald is basically Bene or Dingwall, I didn’t say they were good choices.

I suspect JMcG likes McKay in the four back, because he hangs back more than Miller, against teams with worrisome attackers.

9 hours ago, Jilted John said:


What makes you say McKay is a centre back ahead of being a right back? Off the top of my head he’s featured more at right back for the first team than he has at centre half.

Absolutely,  he has been shoehorned in at RB because of a preference for four backs and Davo and Bene being the established duo. He is clearly a CB at heart. He’s just not nearly as happy as Miller or MacDonald, or even Watson, pushing up the wing to lob in threatening passes, but has developed nicely into a stout CB.

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I appreciate you like Watson as a player, and in his brief time in the team he was fine, but please stop kidding yourself on that he's a wingback who likes to bomb up and down all game.

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