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I wasn’t sure what to make of Armstrong today. Anyone can have a bad game, and to be honest, pretty much everyone had just that in the first 45 minutes, but his withdrawal pretty much turned the game for us.

 

Was it a bad game, or is he just disinterested since he’s possibly swapping places with Tony Dingwall in Dingwall?

 

I don’t know, and as much as I think Armstrong is the superior player if he’s up for it, I’d be happy if McGlynn went with Dingwall wide right next week.

 

As for the title, it’s gone, but considering Arbroath are in line to pick up more points than this division’s last three winners, Dunfermline, Livingston and Ayr, who were all full time, you can only really say fair play.

 

 

 

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I wasn’t sure what to make of Armstrong today. Anyone can have a bad game, and to be honest, pretty much everyone had just that in the first 45 minutes, but his withdrawal pretty much turned the game for us.
 
Was it a bad game, or is he just disinterested since he’s possibly swapping places with Tony Dingwall in Dingwall?
 
I don’t know, and as much as I think Armstrong is the superior player if he’s up for it, I’d be happy if McGlynn went with Dingwall wide right next week.
 
As for the title, it’s gone, but considering Arbroath are in line to pick up more points than this division’s last three winners, Dunfermline, Livingston and Ayr, who were all full time, you can only really say fair play.
 
 
 
Completely agree. However if Arbroath have done this we have to ask why we couldn't as well. We have a bigger budget, get over double their crowds and are surely a better attraction yet they've put our efforts to shame in all aspects.

And to think when Dick Campbell was interviewed for the job in the summer of 2017 there were many on here who laughed and baulked at the idea.

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Completely agree. However if Arbroath have done this we have to ask why we couldn't as well. We have a bigger budget, get over double their crowds and are surely a better attraction yet they've put our efforts to shame in all aspects.

And to think when Dick Campbell was interviewed for the job in the summer of 2017 there were many on here who laughed and baulked at the idea.


Because we don’t have a goalkeeper as good as Darren Jamieson, we don’t have a centre half that’s as good as Tom O’Brien, we don’t have a winger who’s as good as Bobby Linn, we don’t have a central midfielder who’s as creative as Gavin Swankie and we don’t have a front two who combine as well as Ryan Wallace and Michael McKenna.

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We might have bigger crowds than Arbroath, but we might have a far higher debt to contend with, or players might be unwilling to sign for Scotland's lowest full time team or want to go to Scotland's second best part time team. McGuigan1978 has pointed out we're weaker in various areas, for me particularly in the centre of midfield for creativity. At times we can be excellent, but in other games we've got no drive or pressure on the opposition. 

 

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9 minutes ago, McGuigan1978 said:

 


Because we don’t have a goalkeeper as good as Darren Jamieson, we don’t have a centre half that’s as good as Tom O’Brien, we don’t have a winger who’s as good as Bobby Linn, we don’t have a central midfielder who’s as creative as Gavin Swankie and we don’t have a front two who combine as well as Ryan Wallace and Michael McKenna.

 

You don’t have a centre half as good as Ricki Little either to be fair,  goes under the radar a lot, Absolutely solid, 

Swankie was best player on park today, He isn’t just creative, out of no where after 35 years he had learned to tackle, 

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1 hour ago, Ding Dang Doo said:

Completely agree. However if Arbroath have done this we have to ask why we couldn't as well. We have a bigger budget, get over double their crowds and are surely a better attraction yet they've put our efforts to shame in all aspects.

And to think when Dick Campbell was interviewed for the job in the summer of 2017 there were many on here who laughed and baulked at the idea.

Spot on.

We could have saved a fucking fortune in wages given the amount of time away from the job he spent.

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Looking at the highlights it looked soft but definitely a pen, Murray must have been bloody close to be offside. looks like it could have gone either way so a draw loks about right and that's the reason we are 13 points off the leaders.

I wouldn't say we are a big scalp but seems to me there is a clear reason why directors at other teams will be more than glad to see us stay down. All joking aside the Raith £ is a great thing for the coffers of the other clubs in this league.

In 8 of the 9  (I couldn't find a gate figure for their Stenny game) home games against the other teams played so far this season Airdrie have averaged 742 fans at their games, in the two games against Rovers there have been an average of 1130, more than 50% up on what other teams bring?  Of course they want us to stay down.

Conversely the reverse is true and the longer we stay down the more likely we are to stay here longer yet.  More good news if you are a director of 8 of the other 9.

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Looking at the highlights it looked soft but definitely a pen, Murray must have been bloody close to be offside. looks like it could have gone either way so a draw loks about right and that's the reason we are 13 points off the leaders.
I wouldn't say we are a big scalp but seems to me there is a clear reason why directors at other teams will be more than glad to see us stay down. All joking aside the Raith £ is a great thing for the coffers of the other clubs in this league.
In 8 of the 9  (I couldn't find a gate figure for their Stenny game) home games against the other teams played so far this season Airdrie have averaged 742 fans at their games, in the two games against Rovers there have been an average of 1130, more than 50% up on what other teams bring?  Of course they want us to stay down.



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25 minutes ago, Scottydog said:

Looking at the highlights it looked soft but definitely a pen, Murray must have been bloody close to be offside. looks like it could have gone either way so a draw loks about right and that's the reason we are 13 points off the leaders.

I wouldn't say we are a big scalp but seems to me there is a clear reason why directors at other teams will be more than glad to see us stay down. All joking aside the Raith £ is a great thing for the coffers of the other clubs in this league.

In 8 of the 9  (I couldn't find a gate figure for their Stenny game) home games against the other teams played so far this season Airdrie have averaged 742 fans at their games, in the two games against Rovers there have been an average of 1130, more than 50% up on what other teams bring?  Of course they want us to stay down.

Conversely the reverse is true and the longer we stay down the more likely we are to stay here longer yet.  More good news if you are a director of 8 of the other 9.

Fucking hell. 

 

The state of that. 

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48 minutes ago, Grant228 said:

Fucking hell. 

 

The state of that. 

Of course we all will delighted to have the B&W £ down here too next season.

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10 hours ago, Scottydog said:

Looking at the highlights it looked soft but definitely a pen, Murray must have been bloody close to be offside. looks like it could have gone either way so a draw loks about right and that's the reason we are 13 points off the leaders.

I wouldn't say we are a big scalp but seems to me there is a clear reason why directors at other teams will be more than glad to see us stay down. All joking aside the Raith £ is a great thing for the coffers of the other clubs in this league.

In 8 of the 9  (I couldn't find a gate figure for their Stenny game) home games against the other teams played so far this season Airdrie have averaged 742 fans at their games, in the two games against Rovers there have been an average of 1130, more than 50% up on what other teams bring?  Of course they want us to stay down.

Conversely the reverse is true and the longer we stay down the more likely we are to stay here longer yet.  More good news if you are a director of 8 of the other 9.

Oh dear 

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15 hours ago, McGuigan1978 said:

 


Because we don’t have a goalkeeper as good as Darren Jamieson, we don’t have a centre half that’s as good as Tom O’Brien, we don’t have a winger who’s as good as Bobby Linn, we don’t have a central midfielder who’s as creative as Gavin Swankie and we don’t have a front two who combine as well as Ryan Wallace and Michael McKenna.

 

It shows how far we have fallen when Arbroath have better players than us but the sad truth is that they have.

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It shows how far we have fallen when Arbroath have better players than us but the sad truth is that they have.

Shit happens mate.

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It shows how far we have fallen when Arbroath have better players than us but the sad truth is that they have.


It’s not really “how far we’ve fallen” though, is it? We’ve been within 5 or 6 places of where we are now for the vast, vast majority of the entire time I’ve been going to the Rovers, which is 20 years. It’s also condescending as f**k to Arbroath who have built on their squad over the last three or four seasons and are where they are on merit. We’ve not suddenly ‘fallen’ out of the premiership and are now slogging our way through, we are of similar size to the clubs round about us in the league standings, and have been for as long as I can remember.

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Can we edit the thread title lads? The thread is almost 10 year old.

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Agree hank. Our squad has Imo the makings of a decent team with the likes of nesbit, Vaughan, Gillespie and bene. We are very much a team going through a transitional period after the locke/ hughes/ drysdale debacle and it will take a bit of consistency in our approach to build a unit like arbroath have. We have players like Armstrong who has undoubted ability but isn't really working for the cause. The complete opposite from when mcglynn came in the first time.

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Can we edit the thread title lads? The thread is almost 10 year old.
There was an older thread we had, but then it got lost when we got promoted last time under McGlynn. So technically it's still the new one...

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22 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

 


It’s not really “how far we’ve fallen” though, is it? We’ve been within 5 or 6 places of where we are now for the vast, vast majority of the entire time I’ve been going to the Rovers, which is 20 years. It’s also condescending as f**k to Arbroath who have built on their squad over the last three or four seasons and are where they are on merit. We’ve not suddenly ‘fallen’ out of the premiership and are now slogging our way through, we are of similar size to the clubs round about us in the league standings, and have been for as long as I can remember.

 

In my 35 years supporting the the rovers we've rarely been behind  Arbroath.  3 years ago we we were in the championship play-offs after finishing umpteen points ahead of the tem in 5th place now we are 13 points  behind Arbroath who were were in the fourth tier a couple of years ago. So stop talking shite where we are now is a joke stop making excuses.

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In my 35 years supporting the the rovers we've rarely been behind  Arbroath.  3 years ago we we were in the championship play-offs after finishing umpteen points ahead of the tem in 5th place now we are 13 points  behind Arbroath who were were in the fourth tier a couple of years ago. So stop talking shite where we are now is a joke stop making excuses.


And that season you’re talking about was an anomaly in the time I’ve been going - 20 years. We’ve finished 2nd and 4th in the Championship and other than that it’s been muddling about between 6th in the league above and 4th in the league we’re in now. Just because we had a good few seasons a quarter of a century ago doesn’t mean that’s what our median is. You say you’ve been going for 35 years, meaning you’re probably in your 40’s. I feel like it’s folk your age who most cannae take it that we are a club of similar size to those around us now. Arbroath have had a great few seasons and deserve to be above us, get used to it.

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