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Lived in the Gallatown Area for 16 years in the area just down from the fairway and across from the BP Garage on St Clair Street.

Apart from the odd couple of junkies, that you get wherever you go, it is generally a decent place to live.

The other side of St Clair Street however....

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Hank Scorpio said

What's wrong with the Valley ?

the only thing i can see wrong with smeaton is they are all rangers or celtic supporters who never attend matches

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talking about supporters isnt it about timeus raith fans gave ourselves a shake , surely a town the size of kirkcaldy could get 3000 fans at a game, would create a better atmosphere at games , just a thought

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It's a harsh world geo!

I agree that the Rovers should be able to attract more than 3000 supporters with the catchment that we have by the way.

3000 we should get but for some reason we dont

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Anyone interested if I were to run a minibus through to away games next season? (Or indeed, any existing groups looking for bus hire?)

I should be able to get reasonably cheap hire of a 16 seater through my work and was wondering if I could make use of it.

I'd be up for joining in for some games.

On the subject of bigger crowds, we could bleat about the number of fans who watch the Old Firms' ineveitable lunchtime kickoff then stay in the pub without wandering along to Starks', or the Rovers (and the rest of the country) could get real. This is the market now. Putting the admission up to £17 further squeezes the (tiny) support we currently have. The attitude of all clubs in Scotland when budgets are tight is to try and eek a few more pounds out of the existing fans, instead of trying to attract new ones. I think it's cultural in the UK as a whole, in almost every industry, we're risk averse. Speculate to accumulate just doesn't exist.

Make it £10/£5 and have a team made up entirely of part-timers. The 1500 of us would still go and you might actually build something bigger!

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I'd be up for joining in for some games.

On the subject of bigger crowds, we could bleat about the number of fans who watch the Old Firms' ineveitable lunchtime kickoff then stay in the pub without wandering along to Starks', or the Rovers (and the rest of the country) could get real. This is the market now. Putting the admission up to £17 further squeezes the (tiny) support we currently have. The attitude of all clubs in Scotland when budgets are tight is to try and eek a few more pounds out of the existing fans, instead of trying to attract new ones. I think it's cultural in the UK as a whole, in almost every industry, we're risk averse. Speculate to accumulate just doesn't exist.

Make it £10/£5 and have a team made up entirely of part-timers. The 1500 of us would still go and you might actually build something bigger!

But then, you could argue, that with a lower budget, we'd be more likely to finish lower down in the table. With lower prices and a smaller budget, we struggle with paying expenses and the rent. Ultimately, we're in a catch 22 situation. Unfortunately, the best thing we can do is try to keep going as we are, try to get some money for the club and hope we can maybe get a decent finish and a cup run again. :unsure:

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But then, you could argue, that with a lower budget, we'd be more likely to finish lower down in the table. With lower prices and a smaller budget, we struggle with paying expenses and the rent. Ultimately, we're in a catch 22 situation. Unfortunately, the best thing we can do is try to keep going as we are, try to get some money for the club and hope we can maybe get a decent finish and a cup run again. :unsure:

We (like everyone else) are making it up on the back of a fag packet at the moment by 'keeping going as we are'. Near misses with admin (or worse) will become the norm until someone actually decides to be positive about the 'product' and actually makes it attractive to young people and families. Putting the prices upn a quid is pretty much an admission that the you're going to lose a few fans, so by fleecing the ones who do keep coming, you'll keep the same budget.

What I'm saying is, we wouldn't have a smaller budget at £10/£5 because we'd get larger gates. Keeping going as we are looks like leaving us with 14 full-timers next season, and thus with injuries, we could end up playing a team full of part-time guys anyway. Go part-time, spend the savings on playing budget on marketing/making a day at Starks' Park more attractive, and watch the crowds rise*. Absolutely nobody is coming to Starks' Park of a weekend for the quality of football. Nobody.

*Or watch McGlynn walk, no-one want to play for us etc etc. I know. I'm not saying I'm right, I just wish I could believe the board had even considered it.

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We (like everyone else) are making it up on the back of a fag packet at the moment by 'keeping going as we are'. Near misses with admin (or worse) will become the norm until someone actually decides to be positive about the 'product' and actually makes it attractive to young people and families. Putting the prices upn a quid is pretty much an admission that the you're going to lose a few fans, so by fleecing the ones who do keep coming, you'll keep the same budget.

What I'm saying is, we wouldn't have a smaller budget at £10/£5 because we'd get larger gates. Keeping going as we are looks like leaving us with 14 full-timers next season, and thus with injuries, we could end up playing a team full of part-time guys anyway. Go part-time, spend the savings on playing budget on marketing/making a day at Starks' Park more attractive, and watch the crowds rise*. Absolutely nobody is coming to Starks' Park of a weekend for the quality of football. Nobody.

*Or watch McGlynn walk, no-one want to play for us etc etc. I know. I'm not saying I'm right, I just wish I could believe the board had even considered it.

Mcglynn will walk the manager of the year isnt getting the backing that he deserves! He will be feeling the same as the players after being told 4th is the target then half way through a campaign moving the goal posts!

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:blink:

It's an absolute smack den, like most of Kirkcaldy.

I lived in T-Hall when i was a bairn, it was great then. Its full of rajpelts now unfortunately.

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talking about supporters isnt it about timeus raith fans gave ourselves a shake , surely a town the size of kirkcaldy could get 3000 fans at a game, would create a better atmosphere at games , just a thought

It would be great wouldn't it, but unfortunately the town and surrounding areas mostly harbour OF jakeys.

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If the kdy public didn't turn up for a league title fight with the pars, why would they turn up for slightly cheaper gates?

Costs are costs. Can't afford the gamble of lowering prices and expecting the public to turn out in droves.

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When did T-Hall go downhill? My Dad stayed at the top of Fair Isle Road, and when we down to see the Grandparents I used to enjoy walking down to the Templehall shops on a Sunday morning (this was about 9/10 years ago). We drive thru there on match days, and its just minging now. :(

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When did T-Hall go downhill? My Dad stayed at the top of Fair Isle Road, and when we down to see the Grandparents I used to enjoy walking down to the Templehall shops on a Sunday morning (this was about 9/10 years ago). We drive thru there on match days, and its just minging now. :(

It's always been a dump. :unsure:

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I'd avoid the following: (at great risk of offending fellow Raith fans who read this thread)

The links, the Gallatown and Smeaton.

Nothing wrong with the G'alt'n, then again I've never lived there since I left in 1992.

Interesting piece in the FFP, with Turnball Hutton poo pooing the negative waves emitting from starks park.

Strange stance considering the waves are coming from his chairman :blink:

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Mcglynn will walk the manager of the year isnt getting the backing that he deserves! He will be feeling the same as the players after being told 4th is the target then half way through a campaign moving the goal posts!

1st target was in the bag, to avoid stangnating the board had to give another target, or would yo have preffered the board to have said we might be 2nd top, but were happy to slip to 4th ?

Ambition is critical

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