grumswall Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Could do worse than get Hartley for next season Imo. If he sits with a king rib supper at the side of the pitch I couldn't give a f**k as long as we're winning games and not kicking about at the bottom of the table. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 6 hours ago, Skyline Drifter said: Nothing at all. RATM has already quoted the rules. It's not allowed whether both parties and the player wanted it to happen or not. You can't over-ride the League rules with a contract term. Its a pretty shit rule to be honest. A club should be fielding their strongest side every match they play in. I mean if Europe's premier Club competition doesn't have a problem with it why should we really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 35 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: Its a pretty shit rule to be honest. A club should be fielding their strongest side every match they play in. I mean if Europe's premier Club competition doesn't have a problem with it why should we really. I disagree. The reason Europe's Premier Club competition doesn't have a problem with it is because technically International "loans" are temporary releases and re-registration in a different country. They aren't legally "on loan". Personally I think it's correct that all doubt is removed from the question and loan players aren't allowed to play against parent clubs. I think that should be the case in Europe also notwithstanding what I said above. If teams are content to use loan players rather than their own then they have to accept they'll be weakened if they play against the team they borrow players from. It's not like it's an old rule nobody ever voted out of existence. It's been a rule for about 2 years now directly as a result of previous issues with it and the clubs obviously decided it was wrong to potentially allow it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheevedawg Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 As a side note, Rudi Skacel makes team of the week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonhound17 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 As a side note, Rudi Skacel makes team of the week. And Dale Carrick too! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Skyline Drifter said: I disagree. The reason Europe's Premier Club competition doesn't have a problem with it is because technically International "loans" are temporary releases and re-registration in a different country. They aren't legally "on loan". Personally I think it's correct that all doubt is removed from the question and loan players aren't allowed to play against parent clubs. I think that should be the case in Europe also notwithstanding what I said above. If teams are content to use loan players rather than their own then they have to accept they'll be weakened if they play against the team they borrow players from. It's not like it's an old rule nobody ever voted out of existence. It's been a rule for about 2 years now directly as a result of previous issues with it and the clubs obviously decided it was wrong to potentially allow it. I'd agree if we didn't have same division loans. Teams should be able to pick whoever they want against teams in their own league and not forced to drop certain ones for certain games. It's not so much the effect on the club who takes the loan on. It's not fair in my mind that that team can play that player against all the other sides in the league bar one. Edited April 18, 2017 by Shadwell Dog 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers_Lad Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 9 hours ago, Poet of the Macabre said: Yogi won't be at Starks next season. Chance Dunfermline won't be either 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pride of Fife Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Would people be happy if we took Goodwillie back should the chance arise? His career reminds me of Garry O'Connor's, wasted talent, always seems to be in trouble with law but if he retains his ability and screwed the nut I would be fine with it. I'm presuming if some of our fans wouldn't mind a manager that gives oral sex to homeless men providing we win games then they wouldn't mind a player accused of sexual assault and found guilty through civil courts ruling based on chance and probability as opposed to proof or evidence being here so longs he scored goals? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donny86 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Would people be happy if we took Goodwillie back should the chance arise? His career reminds me of Garry O'Connor's, wasted talent, always seems to be in trouble with law but if he retains his ability and screwed the nut I would be fine with it. I'm presuming if some of our fans wouldn't mind a manager that gives oral sex to homeless men providing we win games then they wouldn't mind a player accused of sexual assault and found guilty through civil courts ruling based on chance and probability as opposed to proof or evidence being here so longs he scored goals? Would take him in a heartbeat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Brilliant Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Fuxake.Would prefer a rapist-free team tbh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Mariner Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Sheevedaw said: As a side note, Rudi Skacel makes team of the week. who picks this team ? were they at Starks Park ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancient Mariner Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 19 minutes ago, Pride of Fife said: Would people be happy if we took Goodwillie back should the chance arise? His career reminds me of Garry O'Connor's, wasted talent, always seems to be in trouble with law but if he retains his ability and screwed the nut I would be fine with it. I'm presuming if some of our fans wouldn't mind a manager that gives oral sex to homeless men providing we win games then they wouldn't mind a player accused of sexual assault and found guilty through civil courts ruling based on chance and probability as opposed to proof or evidence being here so longs he scored goals? I remember him playing for us at Peterhead and he was absolutely shocking obviously didn't want to be there, no interest at all should never have been given a Rover's jersey to wear again has he changed ?, very much doubt it - just asking for trouble 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pride of Fife Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Yeah, certainly a gamble but football is full of them 1st time round was different circumstances with it being a loan to lower league for a player with high expectations, we saw recently with Barrie McKay that players don't always respond well to being loaned out. On the whole I didn't think he was too bad, don't think I was at the Peterhead game you mention mind! There is always the chance he would be determined to take his last chance at ft football now that dreams of International and English Premier league are gone? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 who picks this team ? were they at Starks Park ? To be fair thought Rudi had a great game. A lot of defensive work with a couple of great challenges that stopped Morton getting a shot on goal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers1992/1993 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 To be fair thought Rudi had a great game. A lot of defensive work with a couple of great challenges that stopped Morton getting a shot on goal So what you would expect from him really? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith Against The Machine Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Add me to the ranks of those who'd rather not support a club that employs a rapist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR #1 Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 No to goodwillie from me. As well as being a rapist, he was pretty average when he played for us before and has been a failure at crystal palace, Blackburn, Blackpool, Plymouth Aberdeen and Ross County since. Would be a disgraceful signing imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 Even if he wasn't a rapist* I'd still rather we didn't sign him. Too many failures (probably resulting from an attitude problem) and scoring a hat-trick in League 2 doesn't exactly mean he'll cut it at this level. His efforts, if we can call them that, at Plymouth are probably a better indicator of hiw he would fare. *At least by civil standards of proof. No suing, thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverarover Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 So what you would expect from him really? Yes it is but......what you expect from another fit, agile footballers is classed as his best game for us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGuigan1978 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 I really don't think John Hughes and Raith Rovers is any more than a marriage of convenience. I'm not sure he'd fancy sticking around after the summer, and maybe I've just missed them, but I've not read too many words of praise about him from the players since he come in. I certainly don't get the impression he's created a decent atmosphere since arriving. Considering we've so many players signed up for next term, I'd imagine it would probably be better for all parties if we brought a new man on board. As for Goodwillie coming back, I'd rather see the return of Claude Anelka to be honest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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