renton Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Been going too long said: Who knows but by being slow he let one get away, sick of his recruiting style already I get it, I do. With Paterson being ex-Celtic you never know if Murray was put off by wage demands for the output he expected to get. It's one thing wanting to sign, but his relative worth might have made the deal less attractive. It's hard to be sure. Murray's signing style is treading that fine line between trying to get the right bodies in vs. Jim Duffy's casual fuckit attitude he had at Dumbarton. I do think there is a deliberate attempt to re-fashion Dick as a more a specialist CB. I don't think he wants someone who will defend an 18 yard line exclusively. He wants agressive ball players across the park, and Dick amybe falls into the category of not good enoguh with the ball to be a modern LB, but better with it than a lot of CBs. For all i've been bumping my gums about it, two of our long serving Centre Backs were converted from other positions: Davidson was obviously a centre-mid and grant Murray came to us chiefly as a right back/ midfielder. So maybe there is method in the madness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Been going too long Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 11 minutes ago, renton said: I get it, I do. With Paterson being ex-Celtic you never know if Murray was put off by wage demands for the output he expected to get. It's one thing wanting to sign, but his relative worth might have made the deal less attractive. It's hard to be sure. Murray's signing style is treading that fine line between trying to get the right bodies in vs. Jim Duffy's casual fuckit attitude he had at Dumbarton. I do think there is a deliberate attempt to re-fashion Dick as a more a specialist CB. I don't think he wants someone who will defend an 18 yard line exclusively. He wants agressive ball players across the park, and Dick amybe falls into the category of not good enoguh with the ball to be a modern LB, but better with it than a lot of CBs. For all i've been bumping my gums about it, two of our long serving Centre Backs were converted from other positions: Davidson was obviously a centre-mid and grant Murray came to us chiefly as a right back/ midfielder. So maybe there is method in the madness. Maybe but this transition period is hard at the moment, I’m starting to think Tx rover has joined the coaching team with dick as a cb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Been going too long Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, Raith_Raver said: How slow is slow? He's patient and particular, which to me are virtues, not faults. Hmmmm let’s hope so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Been going too long Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, SanStarko said: We haven't played a single league game yet. If we go the first three games of the season without picking up a single point and Murray is still struggling to bring players in then I could understand being upset. But people seem to be getting really angry and upset because of what might happen. Would I have preferred us to have our squad set by now, obviously. But I'm going to wait to see how the first few games of the league go before I get overly concerned about it. Because we didn’t get out of a group in the cup we should have and queens who we would have replaced got a money spinning tie v rangers , that’s why folk are pissed off plus the snail pace recruitment and on the face of it strange recruitment so far 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specky Ginger Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 6 hours ago, The Derry said: I see you have put in a 5 figure bid for Lee Ashcroft this week. We rejected it though. Nah, I'm not having that. There's no way Eric Drysdale rejected a five figure bid for anyone. He doesn't like standing in laddies' way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, Beachbum said: Well spoken young man, hopefully skilled as well. I assume Young pops in behind him, with Dick at CB, that’s him starting!? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, Specky Ginger said: Nah, I'm not having that. There's no way Eric Drysdale rejected a five figure bid for anyone. He doesn't like standing in laddies' way. Perhaps you’re suggesting he likes to stand behind laddies… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baillieinleeds Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, renton said: I get it, I do. With Paterson being ex-Celtic you never know if Murray was put off by wage demands for the output he expected to get. It's one thing wanting to sign, but his relative worth might have made the deal less attractive. It's hard to be sure. Murray's signing style is treading that fine line between trying to get the right bodies in vs. Jim Duffy's casual fuckit attitude he had at Dumbarton. I do think there is a deliberate attempt to re-fashion Dick as a more a specialist CB. I don't think he wants someone who will defend an 18 yard line exclusively. He wants agressive ball players across the park, and Dick amybe falls into the category of not good enoguh with the ball to be a modern LB, but better with it than a lot of CBs. For all i've been bumping my gums about it, two of our long serving Centre Backs were converted from other positions: Davidson was obviously a centre-mid and grant Murray came to us chiefly as a right back/ midfielder. So maybe there is method in the madness. What was Liam Dick’s position when he played for Alloa. As I remember he was working like a muthafucka for that team. Are we still to see the best of him, or has he always played out of position? Genuine question btw 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Been going too long Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, TxRover said: Well spoken young man, hopefully skilled as well. I assume Young pops in behind him, with Dick at CB, that’s him starting!? Dream scenario for you Tx 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRFC_Liam Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Murray’s pre match has said he’s “hopeful” that a couple more will be in by Saturday (later tonight/tomorrow probably) let’s just hope it’s a CH and striker and not a midfielder or RB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Been going too long said: Dream scenario for you Tx Nah, I’d rather see us develop Young, for ourselves, rather than some lad from Aberdeen. Now, if we can toss Masson in at CB, with Dick, and then play Brown at DM, we’re talking! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith Against The Machine Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Aye, a bit more positive news from Murray's interview. Looking for two more in, might not be ready to go straight into the starting line up after only a day's training, but he intends to have them stripped and in the squad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Been going too long Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Against The Machine said: Aye, a bit more positive news from Murray's interview. Looking for two more in, might not be ready to go straight into the starting line up after only a day's training, but he intends to have them stripped and in the squad. Is the interview up now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydog Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Some quotes and my thoughts on them. "We haven't played a single league game yet. If we go the first three games of the season without picking up a single point and Murray is still struggling to bring players in then I could understand being upset. " No we haven't but we've been held by two lower league sides that I'm sure a Raith side of the last 3 seasons would have dispatched. That we don't start the league campaign well is my main worry, but why shouldn't supporter be upset with the fact that we couldn't get out of an easy group and picked up a cash tie against Rangers? Reason enough to be annoyed in my book. "We all know, Murray included, that we're short on centre-halves, more so this week than last, but I genuinely cannot think of a single one who is available in Scotland that I'd like to see here." Yet this isn't news is it? This has been the case since he came into the job 65 days ago, true it has been exacerbated by the retirement of Berra but IM has had over 2 months to do something about it and as I type we are NOW less than 48 hours from the opening league fixture. The fact that CH's are a rare commodity in this country make it even more ludicrous that we now allowed FOUR of the 5 who played last season to slip away. Now before some knob jumps in with the apparent fav phrase of the moment "knicker wetting" Surely a better question is how can any supporter of the Rovers not be concerned? Even if Murray signs two central defenders and a striker today they will be complete strangers to their teammates up at the Balmoral Stadium. God how I wish we'd kept Musonda and McKay. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Been going too long said: Is the interview up now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRFC_Liam Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Been going too long said: Is the interview up now? Aye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJimmyofNic Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, Scottydog said: Some quotes and my thoughts on them. "We haven't played a single league game yet. If we go the first three games of the season without picking up a single point and Murray is still struggling to bring players in then I could understand being upset. " No we haven't but we've been held by two lower league sides that I'm sure a Raith side of the last 3 seasons would have dispatched. That we don't start the league campaign well is my main worry, but why shouldn't supporter be upset with the fact that we couldn't get out of an easy group and picked up a cash tie against Rangers? Reason enough to be annoyed in my book. "We all know, Murray included, that we're short on centre-halves, more so this week than last, but I genuinely cannot think of a single one who is available in Scotland that I'd like to see here." Yet this isn't news is it? This has been the case since he came into the job 65 days ago, true it has been exacerbated by the retirement of Berra but IM has had over 2 months to do something about it and as I type we are NOW less than 48 hours from the opening league fixture. The fact that CH's are a rare commodity in this country make it even more ludicrous that we now allowed FOUR of the 5 who played last season to slip away. Now before some knob jumps in with the apparent fav phrase of the moment "knicker wetting" Surely a better question is how can any supporter of the Rovers not be concerned? Even if Murray signs two central defenders and a striker today they will be complete strangers to their teammates up at the Balmoral Stadium. God how I wish we'd kept Musonda and McKay. Nail head firmly hit, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mealsonwheels Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 From his interview it sounds like we have indeed signed these other players. May be some paperwork being organised in the background but we may still have an update this evening or I'd expect tomorrow morning at the latest. My trust is still with him and I am personally glad he hasn't panic signed, bringing players he has obviously accessed himself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyn Stevenson Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Just because QoS got Rangers in the draw doesn’t mean we would’ve got them as well, I agree we should’ve qualified but the seeding would’ve been different if we did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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