pub car king Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Might answer a lot of questions about our constant injury issues 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 17 hours ago, Grant228 said: I reckon Comrie will be away, Todd seems to be first choice now (rightly or wrongly), and with us having three right backs one of them will go to free up wages for somewhere else in the team. MacDonald isn't going because no one will take him, and that leaves Comrie. He's a good player and was fantastic for us at times, however I reckon McPake will juggle the squad so as to reinvest those wages somewhere else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 hours ago, pub car king said: Might answer a lot of questions about our constant injury issues From the outside looking in this seems to have been an issue for years, when Vaughan broke down the second? Time up at Station Park it seemed far to much, far too soon on a surface not suited for his knee. He needed protected from himself as much as anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, Grant228 said: From the outside looking in this seems to have been an issue for years, when Vaughan broke down the second? Time up at Station Park it seemed far to much, far too soon on a surface not suited for his knee. He needed protected from himself as much as anything. That was a strange one. Vaughan had played a couple of weeks previous, less than 8 months after the injury, which seemed fast. It's Keatings version of events, but the injury question is one that certainly needed answering if Mcglynn had stayed. Maybe this goes a wee bit towards answering that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Falkirk’s injury record this coming season will be an interesting watch. Lang clearly being injured yet playing on before collapsing in a heap having done his ACL against Hamilton also springs to mind as a really questionable decision, he should have taken off immediately. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevoraith Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 McGlynn being adamant that he wanted all of his players to train every day doesn’t worry me- I think that’s fair enough. Not doing their homework on an injury/condition that would clearly limit Keatings ability to do that is the bigger concern for me. And he’s clearly not the only player we’ve signed who had previous injuries which have continued when they’ve joined us. Hopefully Murray’s due diligence on signings will be better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) McGlynn was by no means the only architect of a depleted squad in recent times. I seem to remember us having dreadful injury problems in the League Cup a few years ago, with Barry Smith boasting about how hard he was making them work in training. Those comments from Keatings are however very concerning. Why did we sign a player with an injury history like that, and why did we ignore the medical advice in order to manage it? The amount of money the club threw away last season is sickening. Edited June 5, 2022 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raith1974 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 The problem I the past is some managers have targeted players with a history of injury issues to try and get a better player. I won't blame McGlynn for Vaughan as he will go with what the specialist had said, physio and player. I fear no matter who our manager is Vaughan will break again. In terms of Keatings as soon as he stated that he could only train 3 times a week on advice of a surgeon then we should have walked away. Inverness fans dis warn us he couldn't play 90 mins. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 With complex injuries you can't just have yer da types giving it in my day type shite and running them into the ground. Conversely you can do alternative training like upper body work or stuff in the swimming pool. It'll be interesting this year and Vaughan in particular. If we get 25 appearances out of him that'll be a huge achievement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrush1471 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 The issue with Keating isn't the management of him, which is bad, but it's signing a player not even remotely suited or able to play the way McGlynn wanted to be set up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRFC_Liam Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 40 minutes ago, pub car king said: With complex injuries you can't just have yer da types giving it in my day type shite and running them into the ground. Conversely you can do alternative training like upper body work or stuff in the swimming pool. It'll be interesting this year and Vaughan in particular. If we get 25 appearances out of him that'll be a huge achievement. I think Murray will manage him correctly maybe give him 10-15 minutes here and there and gradually build up and I felt sometime McGlynn kept him on for too long at times, it’s about managing the players right after a serious injury 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRFC_Liam Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 So let’s talk about the out of contract players Benedictus we know he’s off to the pars brad Spencer will he stay or will he go? I’ve got a feeling he will go, seen on Facebook apparently he’s got offers elsewhere and not came to an agreement yet with us Reghan Tumilty? We’re all pretty certain he’s offski Frankie Musonda? Away on International Duty with Zambia so will be difficult to have direct contact about a new deal for now, but do you think he stays or goes? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverthemoon Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 That Keatings article doesn’t portray McGlynn in a great light. Two sides to every story of course, but as others have said it maybe suggest our constant injury problems weren’t completely just down to bad luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribzanelli Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, RRFC_Liam said: Frankie Musonda? Away on International Duty with Zambia so will be difficult to have direct contact about a new deal for now, but do you think he stays or goes? Started against Ivory Coast and played well, I thought he was called up to make up the numbers but international exposure might not help our ability to keep him. Another game tomorrow then home so we might hear something soon. As for Keatings, sounds like someone else signed him and forced him upon McGlynn, surely if he was a McGlynn signing he would have done whatever he could to get the most out of him. Bad look. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Been going too long Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 18 minutes ago, RRFC_Liam said: So let’s talk about the out of contract players Benedictus we know he’s off to the pars brad Spencer will he stay or will he go? I’ve got a feeling he will go, seen on Facebook apparently he’s got offers elsewhere and not came to an agreement yet with us Reghan Tumilty? We’re all pretty certain he’s offski Frankie Musonda? Away on International Duty with Zambia so will be difficult to have direct contact about a new deal for now, but do you think he stays or goes? I think they will all go sadly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, ribzanelli said: As for Keatings, sounds like someone else signed him and forced him upon McGlynn, surely if he was a McGlynn signing he would have done whatever he could to get the most out of him. Bad look. I don't for a minute think any player has been signed without McGlynns's input, tbh. That's not the model we operate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilted John Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 The article is a hard one to read, we have been praised in the past for our treatment of injured players, or more the fact that we have paid for operations etc. I can see why Mcglynn wanted him to train full time. We had just scrapped the hybrid model so he wasn’t going to want ‘anomalies’ otherwise he wouldn’t have changed the model in the first place. On the other hand it makes our due diligence look almost non existent. Surely there was a discussion had in the signing process about training expectations. As a few people have mentioned, it now casts a bit of doubt over our ‘bad luck’ in the long term injury department. I definitely think this new fresh start was needed, all things considered. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRFC_Liam Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Assuming Spencer does go, would anyone take Charlie Telfer as his replacement? One of Falkirks better players last season in a piss poor squad has played championship level before and I think with a better team around him he could do a job.,.. just a suggestion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribzanelli Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 19 minutes ago, Michael W said: I don't for a minute think any player has been signed without McGlynns's input, tbh. That's not the model we operate. I agree, but that article does make me question that slightly. Seems bizarre to bring in a guy you want then basically freeze him out really quickly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, Jilted John said: The article is a hard one to read, we have been praised in the past for our treatment of injured players, or more the fact that we have paid for operations etc. True, though I remember Calum Elliot also going to the press over our treatment of him and his injuries. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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