grumswall Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Of course Clyde would take him. They are just as Scummy as New Rangers.Check the edit [emoji102] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CatAlan Posted February 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2022 As an outsider looking in I had refrained from posting and had been reading this weekly, mostly through my fingers as this sorry episode unfolded. I'd like to however record my praise for the good people of Raith Rovers this week. The volunteers, the board members who voted with their feet in the immediate aftermath of the announcement, the vast majority of their posters on here, the employees, the ladies team captain and any others who I've not expressly mentioned there. They have shown incredible courage in their actions and/or in speaking out and pressuring the remaining people in positions of trust and authority at the club to reverse their quite frankly horrific decision to sign a rapist for the club. I have no ties or loyalty to Raith Rovers, other than I can only praise the guys and girls on here who have gone through a hell of a lot this week. From my point of view, I think a clean break is what the club needs. I don't see how McGlynn (as legendary a figure he has been for the club) can remain. Football is immaterial in all of this, but he thought it ok for the club to sign a rapist. For me there's no way back from that. I also think that the remaining persons on the board need to go too. They authorised/voted for/were happy with, the club signing a rapist. A person who has been judged in a civil court to have raped a woman. I don't see their positions as tenable at the football club now, albeit I appreciate emptying them comes with a large raft of issues (having read this topic in it's entirety since the news broke). The people who sanctioned this deal have shown that there are deep-rooted failings at the club that lie at their door. They sanctioned the deal. They doubled-down when the initial backlash started. They saw it fit for a proud and long-standing part of the fabric of Scottish football in Raith Rovers football club, to sign a rapist. I don't see how they continue in their positions in the medium to long term. For the club to rebuild the reputation which has been massively affected this week, those people need to be held accountable. I hope Val McDermid, the other sponsors and the fans who (perfectly within their rights) who have left the club/stated they won't be back, find a time when they can return. Whenever and however that may be. Fans make football and they make football clubs. And as if it needed illustrated, it's fans who have massively affected the club's decision to, albeit after the horse has bolted, decide that DG will not play for the club and to start the process of having him removed. Having read the transcript of the civil case, it makes horrific reading. I don't think any person with an iota of a moral compass could deny that. There are unfortunately people who will continue (either because they're reprehensible human beings, or they're at the wind up) who will defend DG to a point, claim invalid nonsense about it 'only' being a civil case, or compare DG to other professional footballers who also have criminal records for a variety of offences. All of which is utterly horrific. I've read a lot of people commenting that there didn't seem to be such a huge furore when Clyde signed him. And I don't think there was as big a furore, but there was one. That is down to several factors. The standing of Raith Rovers in football. The size of club. The public figures attached and associated with the club. That Raith are in the Championship and Clyde were (I think) near the bottom of League Tow when they signed him. There's also the matter that DG had the right of appeal when he signed, so the matter wasn't done and dusted, whereby it is now. And also it must be noted that the landscape on sexual offending has changed massively, and such an excellent thing that it has, in the 4/5 years since the court ruling, and long may that continue. There was an outcry when he signed for Clyde, and rightfully so. That does need to be acknowledged. But what also does, is that it's, to put it mildly, that its pretty reprehensible for some (I don't know what portion) of their fans to have continued to support the club in the same way they did in spite of that decision. To sing his name is diabolical. And to perhaps be open to him returning? Please in the name of absolutely everything, surely not! They've sullied their name probably forever in accepting DG, no less championing him as anything more than an unrepentant rapist. But in the coming days/weeks/months they can finally do something acceptable and right by football, by society and by the victim, in turning their back on him. Will they though? I'm not sure, but given the morals some sections of that club have displayed since the ruling in the civil court, I won't be holding my breath. Other players that have been mentioned in this topic since the news broke have committed offences and there isn't a 'furore' about them remaining in the game. But for two huge reasons. 1-none of them have been found to be rapists (a horrific offence second only to murder in the severity stakes) and 2-those players as far as I understand have shown remorse and contrition. They are therefore in a position to begin and continue on a road of rehabilitation. However, DG is a rapist. And he hasn't, as far as I can see (I'll happily be corrected if I'm wrong) shown any remorse. He hasn't admitted his wrongdoing. He hasn't shown a shred of contrition. He has griped about how the situation has affected him. He has bemoaned the fact that he has or had, a 'banger' of a car. He hasn't apologised to the victim. The victim he was found to have raped. The victim who has had her life turned upside down and changed forever. The victim who hasn't received the full payment she was due and who remains, and always will remain the most important person in all of this sorry, sorry story. That is what makes DG completely different to any of the other players mentioned alongside him in this topic by a sorry few fans whose embarrassing point-scoring efforts and whataboutery are quite frankly pathetic. It only goes to show, sadly, that football, and society in general, has a long, long way to go when it comes to being educated about and having anywhere remotely close to an appreciation of the impact of violence towards women and victims of such heinous offences as the one at the centre of all of this. None more so adequately demonstrated by my own club's player Paul Paton's shameful twitter post which is utterly embarrassing, horrific, disgustingly skewed and to be honest, makes me feel sick. I very much hope that he is spoken with by the club at the very least, that we as a club make a statement distancing ourself from his rancid views, and to be honest I'd be in favour of sanctions in ridding him from us, for bringing the club into disrepute with his horrific views which he aired very publicly. What for DG now? He'll presumably get his pay off in one way or t'other from Raith Rovers. More's the pity. Perhaps some of it could be directed to his victim? I'll be honest I don't know the laws around something like that but it would certainly be a smidgin of something right and proper for the victim in all of this. And to my mind there's not been much right and proper for the poor woman to date. Credit is due to the swathes of Rovers fans, and fans of other clubs alike who have come together in light of this and sent a message reverberating around football and society that this whole incident has been disgraceful and unacceptable. I really hope Raith Rovers come out of the other side of this both financially and reputationally as while football brings people together, its been morals and being good people and knowing what's right and wrong that's forced the hand of Rovers in making that first step towards redemption. All the best in your fight to get your club back Rovers! 26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA-go Par Adonis Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Probably been mooted in one of the hundred pages previous, but you don't think we could all be shocked once more when Raith decide to name him in the starting XI at 2:30 tomorrow? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) The Wee Club O' Fife There was a wee club in the Kingdom o’ Fife Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo And their new player is causin’ them strife Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. The board and the manager ignored the fans Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo And lied to Val with their secretive plans Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. Val and community stood for the fight Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo Refusin’ to bow to the CEO’s shite Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. The player was hopin’ his crime would just slide Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo Cos’ naebody bothered when he played for Clyde Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. But Val and The Ladies wouldn’t play ball Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo ‘Raith Rovers’ they said ‘could go to the wall’ Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. Sim and McGlynn, they were taken aback Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo ‘We need the player to lead the attack’ Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. The Board of Directors decided to ‘twist’ Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo By becoming the rapist’s apologist Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. But Sim got the message, the fans they said ‘Hark !’ Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo ‘We’ll no’ have a rapist here at Starks Park Risselty-rosselty, nae mair Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. Edited February 4, 2022 by Florentine_Pogen -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted February 4, 2022 Author Share Posted February 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said: The Wee Club O' Fife There was a wee club in the Kingdom o’ Fife Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo And their new player is causin’ them strife Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. The board and the manager ignored the fans Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo And lied to Val with their secretive plans Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. Val and community stood for the fight Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo Refusin’ to bow to the CEO’s shite Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. The player was hopin’ his crime would just slide Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo Cos’ naebody bothered when he played for Clyde Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. But Val and The Ladies wouldn’t play ball Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo ‘Raith Rovers’ they said ‘could go to the wall’ Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. Sim and McGlynn, they were taken aback Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo ‘We need the player to lead the attack’ Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. The Board of Directors decided to ‘twist’ Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo By becoming the rapist’s apologist Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. But Sim got the message, the fans they said ‘Hark !’ Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo ‘We’ll no’ have a rapist here at Starks Park Risselty-rosselty, nae mair Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. *sucks air through teeth* 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, DA-go Par Adonis said: Probably been mooted in one of the hundred pages previous, but you don't think we could all be shocked once more when Raith decide to name him in the starting XI at 2:30 tomorrow? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Hank Scorpio said: *sucks air through teeth* Not gonna lie I’m genuinely disappointed with the title “The Wee Club O’ Fife” that it’s not from a Pars fan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA-go Par Adonis Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 The remaining board, McGlynn and Smith know they're going to be forced out soon anyway... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJimmyofNic Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, DA-go Par Adonis said: The remaining board, McGlynn and Smith know they're going to be forced out soon anyway... I'm bloody surpised the CEO hasn't had the decency to resign yet, and the silence from the club at this point is starting to reek again of , keep quiet and it'll all go away 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, SirJimmyofNic said: I'm bloody surpised the CEO hasn't had the decency to resign yet, and the silence from the club at this point is starting to reek again of , keep quiet and it'll all go away Quote Better to keep quiet and let people think you're an idiot than speak up and confirm it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 hours ago, San Starko Rover said: “Interviewed well” was that not what they said about Locke Our board said the same about Peter Grant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, DA Baracus said: Our board said the same about Peter Grant. Ah the good old days when the most embarrassing thing a board in Fife had done was appoint Peter Grant. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, San Starko Rover said: Ah the good old days when the most embarrassing thing a board in Fife had done was appoint Peter Grant. Feels like years ago now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonhound17 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 The Wee Club O' Fife There was a wee club in the Kingdom o’ Fife Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo And their new player is causin’ them strife Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. The board and the manager ignored the fans Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo And lied to Val with their secretive plans Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. Val and community stood for the fight Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo Refusin’ to bow to the CEO’s shite Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. The player was hopin’ his crime would just slide Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo Cos’ naebody bothered when he played for Clyde Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. But Val and The Ladies wouldn’t play ball Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo ‘Raith Rovers’ they said ‘could go to the wall’ Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. Sim and McGlynn, they were taken aback Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo ‘We need the player to lead the attack’ Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. The Board of Directors decided to ‘twist’ Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo By becoming the rapist’s apologist Risselty-rosselty, hey, David Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. But Sim got the message, the fans they said ‘Hark !’ Nickety nackety noo, noo. noo ‘We’ll no’ have a rapist here at Starks Park Risselty-rosselty, nae mair Goodwillie Nickety nackety noo, noo, noo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJimmyofNic Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, San Starko Rover said: Ah the good old days when the most embarrassing thing a board in Fife had done was appoint Peter Grant. Aye n we've got form for that n all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I mind when the most embarrassing thing about the Rovers was a fucking clown with a chair. Hang on... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Zen Archer (Raconteur) said: I mind when the most embarrassing thing about the Rovers was a fucking clown with a chair. Hang on... We even trumped East Fife for worst signing news ever after that time they announced a lawnmower or something. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJimmyofNic Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Take a lot to trump Anelka and his 3rd force in Scottish fitba, noo that is really embarrasing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 4 minutes ago, SirJimmyofNic said: Take a lot to trump Anelka and his 3rd force in Scottish fitba, noo that is really embarrasing Hopefully a repeat is on the cards, didn't he walk away and forfeit his investment? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebanda's Handyman Services Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 For the supporters who still see a glimmer of hope for McGlynn... What type of statement content from the manager would make you content for him to carry on? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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