Nizzy 3,313 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 Fair enough for this weeks events. But the previous one (or possibly both) were Friday nights. It could be the case the fans were under the blinkered impression that everything wasn't as bad as being reported. It took a helluva time for a large number of them to wise up to the new regime. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southview 35 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 From a Livi fan at Hampden. His appearance at Hampden may not matter a jot, but could do 1 of 2 things. 1. The SFL feel an overwhelming sense of pity for Livi and allow them to wind the club up but transfer explore possibility of transferring shares to LFC 2009. 2. They see what a crackpot he is and wash their hands of the club straight away. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GordieBoy80 931 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 But such a rule change would require a vote of all 30 clubs, surely? Well 29 Annan don't have a vote but yeah any rule changes have to be voted by the clubs 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bsd 111 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 Clearly MrGruther isn't going to entertain him now. Which kind of removes the possibility of salvation through a late change of heart.Does this mean that the only remaining option is liquidation, or will McGruther have something else up his sleeve? It has to be now surely. McGruther was absolute in what I heard yesterday. No sale, no club anymore. Would make a complete joke (if it isnt already) of the situation if they now moved the goalposts. But this is the SFL of course. Please let this end now. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Master 5,481 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 Angelo-gelo Whatever will be will be You've fucked over Livi Angelo-gelo 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boghead ranter 6,231 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 Well the only things that rhyme are skivvy, "up ye" and...er... Strawberry Mivvy? -1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Day of the Lords 13,373 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 It could be the case the fans were under the blinkered impression that everything wasn't as bad as being reported. It took a helluva time for a large number of them to wise up to the new regime. That might account for a number. There was still quite a divide until even a week or two ago. I think we're now narrowed down to OK-We-Finally-Realise-Massone-Is-A-Clown versus MCL. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Master 5,481 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 Well 29 Annan don't have a vote but yeah any rule changes have to be voted by the clubs I keep meaning to ask - why is it Annan don't have a vote yet? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CowdenPhil 77 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 If livi survive they will end up screwing up more small businesses and sending many more folk to the dole 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nizzy 3,313 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 I think we're now narrowed down to OK-We-Finally-Realise-Massone-Is-A-Clown versus MCL. I'm not really up to speed with this thread, but I'd be incredibly surprised, given past communication, if MCL was defending Massone. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GordieBoy80 931 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 I keep meaning to ask - why is it Annan don't have a vote yet? I think they are associate members of the SFL rather than full members 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Mac 0 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 (edited) I keep meaning to ask - why is it Annan don't have a vote yet? You have to be a member of the "club (SFL)" for i think three years before you become a full member with voting rights. Due to the vested interest Airdrie will have no say in the Livi situation at the on going meeting. So that's it down to a 27 team commitee Edited July 30, 2009 by Chris Mac 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Day of the Lords 13,373 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 It has to be now surely. McGruther was absolute in what I heard yesterday. No sale, no club anymore. Would make a complete joke (if it isnt already) of the situation if they now moved the goalposts. But this is the SFL of course.Please let this end now. It's been a joke for some weeks. I guess the only discussion for the SFL now is whether or not they leave us with a 9 team First Division, or promote Airdrie and Cowdenbeath. In this event, surely these two would be entitled to some financial assistance, given that they've got squads prepared for their respective league campaigns. It's hardly fair to promote Airdrie and sentence them to possibly being humped every week (apart from four 1-0 wins v Dundee ) in front of potentially dwindling crowds. As has been said before, a side in title contention, winning games and scoring goals in the second is more likely to have a larger support than a team being annihilated week-in, week-out in the first. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Savage Henry 6,638 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 I'm not really up to speed with this thread, but I'd be incredibly surprised, given past communication, if MCL was defending Massone. From what I've read, he hasn't been. He has been very critical of the Supporter's Direct/Trust whatever it is at Livingston, which is never a populist move. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Livi 293 5 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 (edited) Someone just said on LL, I think, that Massone's advisor is outside Hampden saying he thinks he should sell, but Massone still thinks he can save the club. Maybe I got that wrong. On SSN now outside Hampden - songs, drums etc as both Massone and the "rescue team" arrive. Edited July 30, 2009 by Livi 293 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Day of the Lords 13,373 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 I'm not really up to speed with this thread, but I'd be incredibly surprised, given past communication, if MCL was defending Massone. Not defending him to the hilt as such, but a large number of his posts suggest the only way forward was for these anti-Massone groups to work with him, rather than against him. This stance surprised me too somewhat as i seem to recall MCL being really critical of the regime when they were due him cash. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom McB 5 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 You have to be a member of the "club (SFL)" for i think three years before you become a full member with voting rights.Due to the vested interest Airdrie will have no say in the Livi situation at the on going meeting. So that's it down to a 27 team commitee Surely the Blue Brazil have a vested interest too? In one way or another all teams have a vested interest. Rules are rules. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Naitch 1,499 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 Sky Sports News just showed footage of Massone arriving at Hampden still claiming he can save the club... oh dear. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lzreid 81 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 Why is the meeting still on-going? By my reckoning it goes as follows - 'Good afternoon, Mr McGruther, thanks for meeting with us' 'No problem guys, I appreciate the chance to prepare as well as i could' 'Mr McGruther, can you guarantee that Livingston will fulfill all of their fixtures in the season 2009/2010?' 'No' 'Then we have to relegate you to the Third Division' 'That will likely kill the club' 'Yeah' Meeting over. 5 minutes maximum if they offer McGruther a drink. 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
southview 35 Report post Posted July 30, 2009 Apparently, Massone's advisor is outside Hampden saying he thinks he should sell, but Massone still thinks he can save the club. Can no-one talk sense into this deluded fool? 0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites