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Well, that’s a bit shite. Not unexpected, but it’ll still be a blow. I think Keaghan is a more than adequate replacement in midfield but we’ll struggle to replace him out wide on the left. Not convinced Longridge or Cadden have the quality to be a success at this level.

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8 hours ago, Afro said:

Well, that’s a bit shite. Not unexpected, but it’ll still be a blow. I think Keaghan is a more than adequate replacement in midfield but we’ll struggle to replace him out wide on the left. Not convinced Longridge or Cadden have the quality to be a success at this level.

Feel the same about Longridge, on the fence about Cadden. Here's hoping we take someone in on loan to fill the space.

On another note, I'm excited about Boyd. Looks shit hot. Looks like for like a replacement for Mullen.

Penrice out of contract in the summer though :whistleBring him home Hoppy....

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Starting to get a bit worried about the lack of news coming out the club regarding contracts. Surely we should be doing all we can to keep Halkett etc.. 

A fair bit of the players can sign a PCA in January and there won't be a shortage of clubs looking at them given our start so far. A bit of communication would be great but I'm sure a decent amount of the players will be looking to move on which is worrying given we might be looking at a big job of replacing certain players.

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4 hours ago, Grant228 said:

Rumours* that you're struggling to pay wages due to the lack of home games, could that be why you're not currently giving out contracts?

 

 

 

*It is in the Daily Star though.

Doubt that, the home game's will still come so it's not as if the money won't ever come into the club

A year and a half ago I would've believed it but trust Ward to keep us stable and in a good place financially 

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5 hours ago, Grant228 said:

Rumours* that you're struggling to pay wages due to the lack of home games, could that be why you're not currently giving out contracts?

 

 

 

*It is in the Daily Star though.

Nah, we haven’t a lot of money but we aren’t struggling to pay wages. 

The money we made from Mullen 25k I believe and the 100k from the league cup run has almost certainly helped with cash flow at the Club, a high finish this season too would be a welcome boost. 

This sort of rumour is unhelpful but understandable given our past record, but under the stewardship of John Ward who I’ve met on a few occasions now I’m more confident than ever that the right guy is in charge and has long term plans for the Club. 

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8 minutes ago, andylivi1 said:

Nah, we haven’t a lot of money but we aren’t struggling to pay wages. 

The money we made from Mullen 25k I believe and the 100k from the league cup run has almost certainly helped with cash flow at the Club, a high finish this season too would be a welcome boost. 

This sort of rumour is unhelpful but understandable given our past record, but under the stewardship of John Ward who I’ve met on a few occasions now I’m more confident than ever that the right guy is in charge and has long term plans for the Club. 

I wonder what the long term plan is. To be challenging playoffs for Premier League or just to be safe in the Championship?

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10 minutes ago, ATLIS said:

I wonder what the long term plan is. To be challenging playoffs for Premier League or just to be safe in the Championship?

I think the long term goal is to make the Football club financially stable and become a real community hub again, from what I understand the council seem to be hindering that a little bit but the club are working hard behind the scenes. 

Obviously in the future on the pitch premiership football would be a target but at the moment stability and a strong footing off it is the goal. 

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23 minutes ago, andylivi1 said:

I think the long term goal is to make the Football club financially stable and become a real community hub again, from what I understand the council seem to be hindering that a little bit but the club are working hard behind the scenes. 

Obviously in the future on the pitch premiership football would be a target but at the moment stability and a strong footing off it is the goal. 

What's the deal with the council? How are they hindering that? On your last point I'm sure every Livi fan would agree that's exactly what we want to see. As much as I'd love to see us winning titles etc, I'd much rather we made sure there was a football team for us to support in the long term

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21 minutes ago, Cptn Hooch said:

What's the deal with the council? How are they hindering that? On your last point I'm sure every Livi fan would agree that's exactly what we want to see. As much as I'd love to see us winning titles etc, I'd much rather we made sure there was a football team for us to support in the long term

Rumours that they want to increase the rent which is already an astronomic amount which will obviously effect the Club finacially, when u think about it what other landlord would get away with renting out a place but not maintaining it ? We have to maintain the ground ourselves which comes at a cost too. 

I also heard it was like jumping through hoops trying to discuss putting in a plastic pitch as we need permission from the council, I believe that if we became a community sporting facility with plastic pitch etc we would be entitled to a lower rent rate which obviously the council don’t want to happen. 

All just rumours ofcourse. 

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Given the Council have probably bent over backwards for us during our entire existence all in all, it would take some brass neck to get tore in about them. That said, there's no doubt that the current iteration of chiefs at WLC aren't exactly a friend of the football club. Can I blame them? Not really, given how much of basket case we have been financially. They're probably looking to maximise their return without putting much in at all (maintenance, 4G pitch discussions etc). Can't blame them given they're using public money. The real danger would be if we end up in some crazy New Broomfield/Broadwood-esque scenario, and we've got nowhere to go but slave out an existence at a white elephant of a stadium.

The defining long-term goal of the club, alongside financial stability, should be a move away from Almondvale to a stadium which we own. I'd argue vehemently that one cannot be achieved without the other, but given we're run internally as a part-time club with a handful of staff and volunteers, I won't hold my breath.

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16 minutes ago, Afro said:

Given the Council have probably bent over backwards for us during our entire existence all in all, it would take some brass neck to get tore in about them. That said, there's no doubt that the current iteration of chiefs at WLC aren't exactly a friend of the football club. Can I blame them? Not really, given how much of basket case we have been financially. They're probably looking to maximise their return without putting much in at all (maintenance, 4G pitch discussions etc). Can't blame them given they're using public money. The real danger would be if we end up in some crazy New Broomfield/Broadwood-esque scenario, and we've got nowhere to go but slave out an existence at a white elephant of a stadium.

The defining long-term goal of the club, alongside financial stability, should be a move away from Almondvale to a stadium which we own. I'd argue vehemently that one cannot be achieved without the other, but given we're run internally as a part-time club with a handful of staff and volunteers, I won't hold my breath.

I agree with what you're saying regarding the council's reluctance to help the club but isn't there an agreement that the ground the stadium is on needs to be used for sporting purposes? Surely crippling the club financially puts the potential of a professional football team occupying the stadium at risk. It seems daft that a landlord would price their tenant out of the game

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34 minutes ago, Cptn Hooch said:

Rumour has is that we're on the verge of bringing in Nathan Austin from Falkirk. Not sure of the details, but someone on the Falkirk topic has said it's in the papers this morning. He's a striker who seems to have a decent scoring record.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Austin

I think if this was going to be the case it wouldn’t surprise me to see someone going the other way...I heard a small rumour that Scott Pittman was being lined up by Falkirk, so that would make sense.

Personally I’d rather keep Pittman. 

Before people jump on it, I have to make clear it’s just a rumour I heard.

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I liked the look of Austin when we played Falkirk in our cup game earlier in the season, did notice he had a tendency to look for a foul though, so would be a good replacement for Mullen.

 

Hope that Pittman rumour is false, if we have any aspirations of a top four finish this season we need to stop punting our best players.

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