Livingston - all the threads merged

[Kempes]

If only they had that guy Halkett in their team tonight. And where did they get him?

[LIVIFOREVER]

38 minutes ago, Kempes said:

If only they had that guy Halkett in their team tonight. And where did they get him?

Aye Vincent must be having severe guilt pains still supporting Hearts after they've signed Halkett and Forrest from Livingston, his spine has all but disappeared up his arse still supporting them.

[mozam76]

https://theathletic.com/3713217/2022/10/24/livingston-rangers-ibrox/

Fantastic piece in the Athletic today about the club and in particular the build up to the match at the weekend.

[Cptn Hooch]

https://theathletic.com/3713217/2022/10/24/livingston-rangers-ibrox/
Fantastic piece in the Athletic today about the club and in particular the build up to the match at the weekend.

Any chance of posting the article rather than the link?

[thruthenight]

Any chance of posting the article rather than the link?

You can read it for free if you register, you don’t have to pay

[Guest]

The link opened with the full article viewable for me just now and I'm not registered on that site. I'm using mobile.

[ATLIS]

That's an absolutely phenomenal article, wow.

If there was ever a person in our club's history deserving of a statue, then it's Martindale. Hope to f**k he never actually does leave us because replacing that work ethic and input will be impossible.

I'm guessing this bit will be about Esma as well then :

The players have got to be under 60mm skinfolds when they have their eight measurement points taken by callipers — otherwise, they are out of the team. A recent signing dropped from 103mm to 49mm.

Edited October 24, 2022 by ATLIS

[LiviLion]

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“If someone chaps my door and asks me why they’re not in the team then I have all the data to show them: here’s your body fats, skinfolds, your weights, your gym data, your bronco data and your game and training data.

A very polite way of saying "You're fat and you're shite, try again next week"

[LIVIFOREVER]

1 hour ago, LiviLion said:

A very polite way of saying "You're fat and you're shite, try again next week"

Plenty fat players that were brilliant, Joe Harper springs to mind, different era now though with all the sophisticated training data. There's is no hiding on the pitch now either, managers know exactly how much you've run about, or stood about doing feckall.

On a side note, wonder what Morelos body fat and skinfolds are, always looks a bit chubby to me.

Edited October 24, 2022 by LIVIFOREVER

[EdinburghLivi]

A new 3 year deal for Pittman. Extends until 2026.

[Cptn Hooch]

A new 3 year deal for Pittman. Extends until 2026.

Never in doubt

[LiviLion]

What a player. What a club.

[Guest]

In that The Athletic article, Martindale meeting his wife in Livi Nitespot made me laugh. You couldn't get anyone more connected to the club than he is.

[Flybhoy]

2 hours ago, LIVIFOREVER said:

Plenty fat players that were brilliant, Joe Harper springs to mind, different era now though with all the sophisticated training data. There's is no hiding on the pitch now either, managers know exactly how much you've run about, or stood about doing feckall.

On a side note, wonder what Morelos body fat and skinfolds are, always looks a bit chubby to me.

Jan Molby, greatest fat lad to play top level football. 

Could land the ball on a beer mat from 60 yards.

[Cptn Hooch]

Goalkeepers
1. [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Shamal George - 2026
31. [emoji635] Ivan Konovalov - 2023 (1 year extension option)
32. [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Jack Hamilton - 2024

Defenders
2. [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Nicky Devlin - 2023
3. [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Jackson Longridge - 2023
4. [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Tom Parkes - 2023
5. [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Jack Fitzwater - 2023
6. [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Ayo Obileye - 2023 (1 year extension option)
11. [emoji1075] Cristian Montano - 2023 (1 year extension option)
12. [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Jamie Brandon - 2025
15. [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 Morgan Boyes - 2023 (1 year extension option)
25. [emoji1037] Phillip Cancar - 2024 (1 year extension option)
29. [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 James Penrice - 2024

Midfielders
8. [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Scott Pittman - 2026
17. [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Stephen Kelly - 2025
18. [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Jason Holt - 2023
22. [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Andrew Shinnie - 2023
24. [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Sean Kelly - 2024
33. [emoji1045] Stephane Omeonga - 2023

Forwards
7. [emoji1077] Dylan Bahamboula - 2024 (1 year extension option)
9. [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Bruce Anderson - 2024
10. [emoji1120] Esmaël Gonçalves - 2024 (1 year extension option)
19. [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Joel Nouble - 2023 (1 year extension option)
28. [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Kurtis Guthrie - 2024 (1 year extension option)

In
Dylan Bahamboula - Oldham Athletic
Scott Bitsindou - KSK Lierse Kempenzonen
Jamie Brandon - Heart of Midlothian
Phillip Cancar - Western Sydney Wanderers
Shamal George - Colchester United
Esmaël Gonçalves - Sheikh Russel
Kurtis Guthrie - RoundGlass Punjab
Jack Hamilton - Greenock Morton
Stephen Kelly - Rangers

Loans Out
Scott Bitsindou - Arbroath - Contract Expiry 2024 (1 year extension option)
Harrison Clark - Stirling Albion - Contract Expiry 2023 (?)
Jack Hamilton - Hartlepool United - Contract Expiry 2024
Josh Mullin - Ayr United - Contract Expiry 2023
Jaze Kabia - Greenock Morton - Contract Expiry 2023
Brian Schwake - Greenock Morton - Contract Expiry 2023

Out

So now that Pittman is confirmed who do we want targeted next for a contract?

Obileye, Nouble, Boyes and Montano all have a club option which I'd imagine will be taken up.

Devlin and Holt would be my next priorities as I would class them in the same league as Pittman in terms of playing every minute of football when they are fit. Omeonga would be a good one too but I can't say we've overly missed him with the addition of Stephen Kelly. Callum Carson doesn't seem to think Fitzwater will accept a new deal but we should 100% be trying to tie him down for at least another year with the hope of a fee down the line.

[The Wrong Car]

I'd say Devlin is the most likely given his role as captain and the fact he's playing at the highest level that he'll reach

Holt may stay, given he spent a few years kicking about at Rangers and on loan. The idea of being a mainstay at a team in the Premiership close to home may suit, however he may see the opportunity for one final payday move. I'd like to keep Kabia, as he's the type of player that has something different. Shinnie is in the meh category - Martindale clearly loves him for big games however he'll be 34 in the summer. 

Obileye has probably been our best defender this year, and with Fitzwater likely to leave I'd put him as a priority. Is the year option for him a player or club options?

Montano's form has been good, the only concern being he's came off injured the last two games. 

Omeonga will probably go, given his age and profile, as will Fitzwater. As much as I'd like to keep both, any decent agent will delay a new deal to see what offers come in. The best bet would be to finish top 6/European qualification, so definitely a stretch. Given we've signed Stephen Kelly, Cancar and Boyes it's clear Martindale wanted replacements in as soon as possible

[Cptn Hooch]

I'd say Devlin is the most likely given his role as captain and the fact he's playing at the highest level that he'll reach
Holt may stay, given he spent a few years kicking about at Rangers and on loan. The idea of being a mainstay at a team in the Premiership close to home may suit, however he may see the opportunity for one final payday move. I'd like to keep Kabia, as he's the type of player that has something different. Shinnie is in the meh category - Martindale clearly loves him for big games however he'll be 34 in the summer. 
Obileye has probably been our best defender this year, and with Fitzwater likely to leave I'd put him as a priority. Is the year option for him a player or club options?
Montano's form has been good, the only concern being he's came off injured the last two games. 
Omeonga will probably go, given his age and profile, as will Fitzwater. As much as I'd like to keep both, any decent agent will delay a new deal to see what offers come in. The best bet would be to finish top 6/European qualification, so definitely a stretch. Given we've signed Stephen Kelly, Cancar and Boyes it's clear Martindale wanted replacements in as soon as possible

I believe all 3 are club options which seems to be one of Martindale's hallmarks which acts as an incentive for good performance. I hadn't even thought about Kabia. He's definitely an exciting player but my understanding is he and Martindale had a fall out over Jaze's attitude so hopefully Dougie Imrie has helped him in that respect as I'd love to see him back at Livi. Brian Schwake is another promising one for the future and seems to be doing well in his loan spells so I'd like to see him extend his stay. I can see I am moving on at the end of his deal leaving us with Jack Hamilton as second choice and allowing Schwake to come into the first team fold

[LIVIFOREVER]

Montano must be carrying a knock or two, dunno if he's targeted thinking he's a hot headed Colombian like Morelos, but he gets clobbered a lot.

[The Wrong Car]

Pretty sure Martindale gave an interview saying he wanted Schwake to got 80-100 games at Championship level before being an option here, so there's probably a decent chance he'll return to Morton next year

Shame about Kabia, although working under Imrie may help him return to the fold here

Glad the year options are club, I'd probably activate them all and try and extend Obileye, Nouble and Montano for longer

[LIVIFOREVER]

Not seen a lot of Jamie Brandon but from the brief spells he's had he's looked impressive, possible replacement for Nicky Devlin if he leaves. Hopefully Devlin stays though, very vocal leader on the pitch for us as well as a cracking player.

Boyes, Cancar, Brandon, St Kelly, Schwake, yeah it does seem like Martindale is getting players in early for future replacements, bedding them in and working on their development, rather than having us scrambling about replacing important players last minute.