Monkey socks Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Where is the story about Fitzwater coming from? I've looked at the usual suspects but see nothing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Monkey socks said: Where is the story about Fitzwater coming from? I've looked at the usual suspects but see nothing There seems to be a good few running with the story Burnley prepared to make move for Livingston defender Jack Fitzwater | Daily Mail Online Burnley 'weighing up move' for Livingston defender Jack Fitzwater - transfer gossip | Lancashire Telegraph Jack Fitzwater 'lined up' for shock Newcastle transfer as other EPL scouts impressed by Livingston defender - Football Scotland Newcastle 'targeting' January transfer for Livingston's Jack Fitzwater | Glasgow Times West Brom academy star tipped to make shock Premier League transfer - Birmingham Live (birminghammail.co.uk) It's a really surprising link to be honest but I'd wager a bet there's underlying stats showing some level of remarkable performance. Could be one for @RandomGuy. but surely he's only going there to be loaned out/deep backup with U23 game time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Where is the story about Fitzwater coming from? I've looked at the usual suspects but see nothing Theres a few news outlets running with it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Would be great if we got a million for him and loaned back to us for the remainder of the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey socks Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Thanks . The location spread of the publications carrying the story makes me think it does have legs. He'd be a loss but the pain could be softened with a 7 figure transfer fee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, ATLIS said: It's a really surprising link to be honest but I'd wager a bet there's underlying stats showing some level of remarkable performance. Could be one for @RandomGuy. but surely he's only going there to be loaned out/deep backup with U23 game time At a quick look there isn't really, no, certainly not for what I'd expect EPL clubs to be looking for. Like he ranks 2nd in the league for def duel won %, and pretty high for through balls completed, but beyond that hes not really in the top 10 for many metrics just looking at the Premiership. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: At a quick look there isn't really, no, certainly not for what I'd expect EPL clubs to be looking for. Like he ranks 2nd in the league for def duel won %, and pretty high for through balls completed, but beyond that hes not really in the top 10 for many metrics just looking at the Premiership. I would imagine 1m + a sell on is in 'bite your hand off' territory then 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I would imagine 1m + a sell on is in 'bite your hand off' territory then [emoji3] That kinda figure would smack of Martindale having someone on the board at the buying club 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) My guess would be it's at best conjecture given Daily Mail is the only source. Here's Martindale commenting on it, anyway. https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/jack-fitzwater-to-newcastle-livingston-boss-has-say-on-speculation-get-their-chequebooks-3540022 Edited January 24, 2022 by FreedomFarter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Alright yi clatty bastirts. Is it true - there are rumours - that donner and chilli sauce pehs are sold at The Tony Macaroni stadium? Thanks in advance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogieLivi Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Alright yi clatty bastirts. Is it true - there are rumours - that donner and chilli sauce pehs are sold at The Tony Macaroni stadium? Thanks in advance. There was on Tuesday against Dundeh. But none on Saturday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durnford Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 20 hours ago, ol1vercloff said: Fairly confident that Fitzwater will not be leaving us for an English Premier League side this season. It's got a whiff of the sort of rumours like Snodgrass going on trial at Barcelona when he was a youngster at Livi. Got a lot of rumours about Knox as well; all of which came to nothing, but Knox and Snodgrass were just kids at the time. The fact that Fitzwater is 24, coming on 25, makes this rumour even more strange. I actually do think at least one side will come in with an offer but would be surprised if it was five figures. In any even unless a side asks for the player on trial; I very much doubt "interest" is anything more than that. The window closes in less than a week doesn't it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thruthenight Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Durnford said: Got a lot of rumours about Knox as well; all of which came to nothing, but Knox and Snodgrass were just kids at the time. The fact that Fitzwater is 24, coming on 25, makes this rumour even more strange. I actually do think at least one side will come in with an offer but would be surprised if it was five figures. In any even unless a side asks for the player on trial; I very much doubt "interest" is anything more than that. The window closes in less than a week doesn't it? 5 figures is 10k. We're asking for 10x that for Forrest who's reportedly already signed a PCA. If there are 3 PL teams looking at him, then 1m isn't completely insane. I don't think his true value is that high, but the english market is insane and if we can somehow make a little competition happen then there's an opportunity for us to get paid here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durnford Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, thruthenight said: 5 figures is 10k. We're asking for 10x that for Forrest who's reportedly already signed a PCA. If there are 3 PL teams looking at him, then 1m isn't completely insane. I don't think his true value is that high, but the english market is insane and if we can somehow make a little competition happen then there's an opportunity for us to get paid here. Five figures is also £99,999. Finance wise the English market is insane but not so insane as to sign up Matthew Knox or Danny Mullen when they went for trials. The other thing to remember that our modus operandi for getting a load of these guys signed up in the first place was that we will listen if a "big club" were to come knocking. It has been one of the prime reasons we've managed to get players that normally wouldn't even consider signing for a club with a relatively small gate. On the other side of the coin players can see Dykes; Brown etc. getting their chance down South after having perhaps proven a point with us. If any club was that keen on him then surely they would have taken him on trial; we're just out of a winter closedown when it would have been an ideal time for clubs to take a decent view. At the moment I can only see it as a speculative purchase in which case none of the clubs mentioned are likely to be splashing out seven figures IMO. Of course who knows what's happening at Newcastle; certainly they could afford to splash out tons on someone to potentially sit on the bench. From our point of view; if one of our players ended up winning a contract with an English Premiership club, irrespective of the fee, it suddenly makes us a lot more attractive for promising players looking for a stepping stone to the "big time". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Think Sevco offered us about 175K for Knox, we should've bitten their hand off. All the hype surrounding him came from his dad calling a DR pal of his to print the overhyped nonsense. When you see the multi million pound signing down South for pretty average players, then a million is nothing to them, just have to look at Oli McBurnie to see they'll pay daft money down there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Alan Forrest has turned down St Johnstone after we accepted a bid, supposedly wants to wait until the summer to see his options. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/alan-forrest-rejects-st-johnstone-26044300 I thought someone said he'd already signed a PCA? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Alan Forrest has turned down St Johnstone after we accepted a bid, supposedly wants to wait until the summer to see his options. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/alan-forrest-rejects-st-johnstone-26044300 I thought someone said he'd already signed a PCA? Waiting to see the relegation picture perhaps? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavideFernandezLoveChild Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Makes sense he wouldn’t want to jump over to the Saints at the moment. You only need to see the scenes at Kelty to realise that the place is slightly toxic and if he is wanting to make that next step in his career away from Livi, Saints are not the club to go for at this moment in time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, DavideFernandezLoveChild said: You only need to see the scenes at Kelty to realise that the place is slightly toxic Far too much is being made of that I'd be amazed if you didn't see those exact scenes repeated every week if losing sides where forced to walk through their supports after a match. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thruthenight Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 34 minutes ago, LiviLion said: Alan Forrest has turned down St Johnstone after we accepted a bid, supposedly wants to wait until the summer to see his options. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/alan-forrest-rejects-st-johnstone-26044300 I thought someone said he'd already signed a PCA? I guess the PCA rumour was bollocks. Probably a good thing from a footballing perspective, means he'll be trying his best to put himself in the shop window. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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