Livingston - all the threads merged

[andylivi1]

3 hours ago, Durnford said:

 

Basically it was my reading of the statement:

 

Again as I stated before that, our ability to find players of good quality to come into the team has been a massive part of our success recently, and I am confident we could bring someone in of the same ability or better. 

It doesn’t make him easily replaceable, recruitment is never easy but I’ve got confidence that we could do that, I don’t think what I’ve wrote was unfair on Ricki. 

Edited February 27, 2020 by andylivi1

[Durnford]

9 hours ago, andylivi1 said:

Again as I stated before that, our ability to find players of good quality to come into the team has been a massive part of our success recently, and I am confident we could bring someone in of the same ability or better. 

It doesn’t make him easily replaceable, recruitment is never easy but I’ve got confidence that we could do that, I don’t think what I’ve wrote was unfair on Ricki. 

I'm not having a go at you but I do think that such details didn't need to be added into the article.

You have to remember that this isn't a post into a friendly environment with limited readership but a submission to the national press. Rickie will undoubtedly read what you wrote about him but also will his family; friends, neighbours, colleagues; team mates and that bloke down the pub. Unfortunately, in the national press, positive stuff gets glossed over whilst negatives get blown up out of all proportion. Personally if asked for comments on a player, that were going to be published, I'd recommend focusing on the positives and leave the negatives unsaid although your "what he lack in pace he more than makes up in strength" is an excellent way around it.

However "When he has played recently he’s been prone to the odd loose ball or error of judgement, perhaps due to lack of confidence or more down to the on-going speculation regarding his future" really is conjecture. Only one person knows for certain whether he's suffering from a lack of confidence or whatever.  It certainly wont be pleasant for his family to read.

It may seem like I'm nit-picking but I  personally made a huge mistake more than 45 years ago ; when I made some unguarded comments to someone who turned out to be a journalist. Within 48 hours those comments had appeared in the Daily Mirror and not burred on page 30 but ON THE FRONT PAGE.  My comments were taken completely out of context but were worded in a particular way so that they caused maximum hurt to people that had looked after me and to a very fine organisation.

As such I would strongly recommend reading and rereading anything that is sent to the vultures. Remember its a hostile environment and not social media.

Anyway I'll say no more on the matter.

[LIVIFOREVER]

Just as well they didn't go to ATLIS for a comment then.

[andylivi1]

1 hour ago, Durnford said:

I'm not having a go at you but I do think that such details didn't need to be added into the article.

You have to remember that this isn't a post into a friendly environment with limited readership but a submission to the national press. Rickie will undoubtedly read what you wrote about him but also will his family; friends, neighbours, colleagues; team mates and that bloke down the pub. Unfortunately, in the national press, positive stuff gets glossed over whilst negatives get blown up out of all proportion. Personally if asked for comments on a player, that were going to be published, I'd recommend focusing on the positives and leave the negatives unsaid although your "what he lack in pace he more than makes up in strength" is an excellent way around it.

However "When he has played recently he’s been prone to the odd loose ball or error of judgement, perhaps due to lack of confidence or more down to the on-going speculation regarding his future" really is conjecture. Only one person knows for certain whether he's suffering from a lack of confidence or whatever.  It certainly wont be pleasant for his family to read.

It may seem like I'm nit-picking but I  personally made a huge mistake more than 45 years ago ; when I made some unguarded comments to someone who turned out to be a journalist. Within 48 hours those comments had appeared in the Daily Mirror and not burred on page 30 but ON THE FRONT PAGE.  My comments were taken completely out of context but were worded in a particular way so that they caused maximum hurt to people that had looked after me and to a very fine organisation.

As such I would strongly recommend reading and rereading anything that is sent to the vultures. Remember its a hostile environment and not social media.

Anyway I'll say no more on the matter.

Fair enough, point taken, just don’t think what I’ve said is in anyway derogatory to Ricki, just an honest assessment of a player who has been a solid player for us over the last couple of seasons. 

Fwiw, I don’t think Ricki will be a Livi player next season. 

[LIVIFOREVER]

Providing the interest payments are low*, this sounds like a good idea. Speading ST payments over 4/10 months, for anyone struggling to pay it all in the one go. Think there used to be an option for paying ST's in 3 or 4 instalments many moons ago.

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Livingston Football Club is pleased to announce that as of the 2020/21 season, supporters will be able to purchase season tickets on a finance agreement due to a new partnership with V12 Retail Finance*. 

*They'd have to be lower than a patg price comparison anyway, or there would be no incentive for getting a ST in the first place.

Edited February 28, 2020 by LIVIFOREVER

[Durnford]

21 minutes ago, LIVIFOREVER said:

Providing the interest payments are low*, this sounds like a good idea. Speading ST payments over 4/10 months, for anyone struggling to pay it all in the one go. Think there used to be an option for paying ST's in 3 or 4 instalments many moons ago.

*They'd have to be lower than a patg price comparison anyway, or there would be no incentive for getting a ST in the first place.

Actually there's an incentive to me in that I retain the same seat that I've had for many moons

[ATLIS]

7 hours ago, LIVIFOREVER said:

Just as well they didn't go to ATLIS for a comment then.

I've actually worked in journalism anyway I'd rather folk were honest and gave their opinion (easier on here I guess) rather than trying to please folk. 

Lamie has been a good rotational squad player for us but will never really make the grade in the 1st team. I was saying the same about McMillan before but he's really stepped up, as has Sibbs the last 9 months. We want players that want to fight, push and better themselves. I'm not saying Lamie hasn't done that but he's had plenty of time to break into the team and show why he should be here. He's 27 in the summer so he's hardly a youngster learning the game. McMillan by comparison only turned 22 in December.

[Troy.1995]

4 hours ago, Durnford said:

Actually there's an incentive to me in that I retain the same seat that I've had for many moons

Ive sat in the same seat since day one.And will never give it up.Like yourself Durnford price doesnt come into it for me fortunatly but i appreciate some fans may find it difficult to pay up front in a one,r.If it gets more bums on seats then that,l do for me.God knows we could do with expanding our fan one way or another.

[LIVIFOREVER]

Sat in the East stand to start with, moved to the West stand when we got promotion to the top flight the first time round, and have moved back a row 3 times till I got far enough back to avoid getting wet when it rains. I like being as close to the halfway line but not too fussed how far back I sit. Usually sit right up the back in cup games when you can sit where you want. Pretty safe getting a seat where you want anyway, not exactly selling out the west stand apart from when we play Celtic or Sevco.

 

Anyhoo, still say it will be under the PaTG or a waste of time getting a ST, majority of fans get the ST for the savings on individual PaTG prices, that's how they sell them too, telling you how much you'll save.

[LIVIFOREVER]

2 hours ago, ATLIS said:

I've actually worked in journalism anyway I'd rather folk were honest and gave their opinion (easier on here I guess) rather than trying to please folk. 

Lamie has been a good rotational squad player for us but will never really make the grade in the 1st team. I was saying the same about McMillan before but he's really stepped up, as has Sibbs the last 9 months. We want players that want to fight, push and better themselves. I'm not saying Lamie hasn't done that but he's had plenty of time to break into the team and show why he should be here. He's 27 in the summer so he's hardly a youngster learning the game. McMillan by comparison only turned 22 in December.

Yeah, I guess you have to be a bit diplomatic when doing podcasts and getting access to interviewing players too though, or they wont want to talk to you if they read you slagging them off.

In the scale of things I was more gutted seeing Halkett and Gallagher leave, but i'd still like Lamie to stay, still think he's a usefull squad player. 

[andylivi1]

1 hour ago, LIVIFOREVER said:

Yeah, I guess you have to be a bit diplomatic when doing podcasts and getting access to interviewing players too though, or they wont want to talk to you if they read you slagging them off.

In the scale of things I was more gutted seeing Halkett and Gallagher leave, but i'd still like Lamie to stay, still think he's a usefull squad player. 

That’s the thing though, without going into it too much more cos it’s done now, I honestly don’t see anything that is slagging him off, It’s an honest assessment of a player, I understand in written work some people read things differently to others so guess I live and learn haha. 

Edited February 28, 2020 by andylivi1

[Durnford]

Changing the subject again I see we've signed an American goalkeeper. I'd heard he was arounf in December/January but had assumed he'd gone home - maybe international clearance hold-up?:

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Livingston FC is pleased to announce the signing of 18-year-old, American goalkeeper Brian Schwake.

Brian joins us from DePaul University in Chicago having graduated from Prospect High School and will wear the number 30 shirt.

The young stopper has been training with the first-team for three months now and is very highly rated amongst the coaching staff.

Whilst continuing to train with the first-team, Brian will get minutes under his belt playing with the reserve side with a potential loan spell on the cards for a competitive edge too.

We’re sure it won’t be long before we see Brian in and about the first-team on match days.

Welcome to Livingston, Brian!

 

[crispy]

That’s good we’ve another promising ‘keeper contracted to us. Also can’t help but think Huddersfield will see Schofield as being capable of much more than warming the bench for Livi.  That said, he can’t get competitive football for another club since this seasons window shut now, right? 

[orco]

All clubs have to have goalies warming the bench. It's the nature of the position. 

[ALOREBURNE]

Can we have Dykes back please... 

[Afro]

17 minutes ago, ALOREBURNE said:

Can we have Dykes back please... 

If he’s still with us after this coming summer we’ll be doing well. A few more performances like tonight’s hopefully in the top six after the split and there may be some daft offers coming in. 
 

Mental to think some fans thought he was a carthorse as recently as November/December. My only complaint is he fades badly in the last 20 minutes or so, but given all he puts in I’m not overly bothered. 

[EdinburghLivi]

Dykes will get the headlines but how good was Guthrie? I thought the hype was beginning to get too much but he reaffirmed the fact that he is an excellent Premiership defender this evening. New deal please. 

Steve Clarke is a chump if he doesn't include Dykes in the next squad.

[crispy]

7 minutes ago, EdinburghLivi said:

Dykes will get the headlines but how good was Guthrie? I thought the hype was beginning to get too much but he reaffirmed the fact that he is an excellent Premiership defender this evening. New deal please. 

Steve Clarke is a chump if he doesn't include Dykes in the next squad.

I’m being cheeky, I know, but I don’t think mccrorie had an exceptionally busy night unlike say Kelly in the 0-0 at Celtic Park or the 0-0 at the Mac. I think their first was sloppy and I was too sick to watch many replays of their second  A couple mins away from heroics, eh? Ach well...

Edited March 4, 2020 by crispy

[LIVIFOREVER]

18 minutes ago, crispy said:

I’m being cheeky, I know, but I don’t think mccrorie had an exceptionally busy night unlike say Kelly in the 0-0 at Celtic Park or the 0-0 at the Mac. I think their first was sloppy and I was too sick to watch many replays of their second  A couple mins away from heroics, eh? Ach well...

Just wish we'd been able to keep Sarkic for the full season, his kicking alone was worth a few assists.

[crispy]

Can the stadium be booked for wedding functions?

 

Because I want to marry this Livi team; you are all invited.