airdrieman Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Allegedly there won't be another shake up until after Wrestlemania. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I've actually seen folk saying NXT should be treated as a third show. The talent roster is thin enough with two shows, I mean how times in a row recently have we had the likes of Orton-Jinder and the Hardy's-Cesaro and Sheamus, Zayn-Corbin, Miz-Ambrose and they are ripping Enzo and Cass to f**k as well now. Its the same shit cause they have such a small pool of wrestlers to work with on each show, and thats even before the part-timers like Cena and Lesnar. NXT also doesn't have a tv deal either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 There's guys that are better off in NXT. Tyler Breeze going to the main roster was something that I was pretty worried about from the word go. Seems to have found a place now but these midcard comedy jaunts never last long. Oney Lorcan is a guy who's a perfect fit for NXT and really should be able to just stick where he is, but I'd suppose he's more ambitious than that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakebite Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 A bit late, but I see Dave Meltzer apparently claimed Shawn Michaels isn't even in the top 30 AMERICAN wrestlers of all time. The c**t should just f**k off tae Japan full-time and live there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Snakebite said: A bit late, but I see Dave Meltzer apparently claimed Shawn Michaels isn't even in the top 30 AMERICAN wrestlers of all time. The c**t should just f**k off tae Japan full-time and live there. Why does anyone listen to this c**t (Meltzer)? Out of interest, where did you see this? I've just done a search but couldn't find it Edited August 3, 2017 by DA Baracus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoon Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 8 hours ago, DA Baracus said: Why does anyone listen to this c**t (Meltzer)? Out of interest, where did you see this? I've just done a search but couldn't find it The list (as far as I'm aware) was to do with box office draws. HBK isn't in the top 30. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentin Taranbino Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Yeah off the top of my head I would imagine: Hogan, Savage, Warrior, Flair, Andre, Sammartino, Hart, Undertaker, Austin, Rock, Cena, Lesnar, Sting, HHH, Lesnar have all been bigger draws than HBK at various points in their career. That's only 15 though...im not sure I could easily think of 15 more who I would be convinced were bigger draws than HBK in his prime 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Yeah off the top of my head I would imagine: Hogan, Savage, Warrior, Flair, Andre, Sammartino, Hart, Undertaker, Austin, Rock, Cena, Lesnar, Sting, HHH, Lesnar have all been bigger draws than HBK at various points in their career. That's only 15 though...im not sure I could easily think of 15 more who I would be convinced were bigger draws than HBK in his prime Macho Man, Lou Thesz, Dory Funk Jr, Dusty Rhodes, Jerry Lawler are another 5 I'd add to the list and that's just American/Canadian wrestling. Wrestling isn't just WWE, it's arguably just as big in Japan so you could probably throw in several of their guys too. HBK was a phenomenal wrestler, and one of my favourites but as far as drawing power and taking context into consideration I don't think there's anything too controversial with Meltzer's statement. Meltzer generally speaks sense but he seems to admittedly have been going for a more 'shock jock' style the past 5-6 year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) Nope, HBK would easily make that list, which is just a nonsense. There's little point comparing territory guys to 90s era guys. If the HBK character was around in any of those territories folk are mentioning top drawers from, he'd have drawn no bother at all Edited August 3, 2017 by Christophe -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoon Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 1 hour ago, DavidMcG said: Yeah off the top of my head I would imagine: Hogan, Savage, Warrior, Flair, Andre, Sammartino, Hart, Undertaker, Austin, Rock, Cena, Lesnar, Sting, HHH, Lesnar have all been bigger draws than HBK at various points in their career. That's only 15 though...im not sure I could easily think of 15 more who I would be convinced were bigger draws than HBK in his prime Roman Reigns IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 (edited) Michaels of 95/96/97 was a huge draw. You can't say that after his return, extra folk weren't drawn to cards with Michaels going against guys like Hogan, HHH, Taker and Jericho. Is he a top 10 draw? Probably not. To say he isn't in the top 30 is absolutely ridiculous though. Edited August 4, 2017 by djchapsticks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Still watching 2001 Raws (mostly good to very good; despite how badly they mangled the Invasion the storyline was still red hot and had the crowd popping all over the place). Anyway, I forgot that they tried to make 'Booger Red' a nickname for Undertaker. Obviously since its fucking dreadful and absolute nonsense it never took off. What are the worst nicknames in wrestling? Currently 'The Cleaner' (Kenny Omega) is a shitter (I get what they're trying to do with it but it just doesn't work). Back in the day 'The Colossus of Boggo Row' (Nathan Jones) was a howler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoon Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 "The Big Dog" is pretty dreadful, especially when Michael Cole says it 7,000 times on RAW every week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Aye saying them over and over doesn't help. Just remembered one; 'Walking Armageddon' for Bobby Lashley, which they parrot about 10473930 times when he's in a match 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Patterson Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 On 04/08/2017 at 19:45, DA Baracus said: . Anyway, I forgot that they tried to make 'Booger Red' a nickname for Undertaker. Obviously since its fucking dreadful and absolute nonsense it never took off. To be fair, it was only JR who ever tried to make it a thing. The name was originally used for an American fitba player called Tommy Nobis. Much like Taker, Nobis was a big, scary looking ginger guy from Texas so I can at least see what JR was going for. At the same time though, you can't really get away with referring to the Phenom as "Booger Red"... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 46 minutes ago, Derek Patterson said: To be fair, it was only JR who ever tried to make it a thing. The name was originally used for an American fitba player called Tommy Nobis. Much like Taker, Nobis was a big, scary looking ginger guy from Texas so I can at least see what JR was going for. At the same time though, you can't really get away with referring to the Phenom as "Booger Red"... I remember Lawler, quite rightly, taking the piss out of JR during the Taker/Flair match at Wrestlemania X8 for trying to make the Booger Red name stick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanetti Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Anyone going to Ring Of Honor in Edinburgh next Sunday? I'm far too excited about seeing the likes of The Young Bucks, Naito, Jay Lethal and Dalton Castle. It's by far my favourite promotion and I've never seen it live before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I'm going. Takahashi vs Haskins will be delightful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Full card is actually fun looking stuff. Main Event The Addiction vs. Cody and Marty Scurll ROH Six Man Tag Team Championships Dalton Castle and The Boys (c) vs. The Young Bucks and Hangman Page Edinburgh Street Fight Jay Lethal vs. Silas Young Tetsuya Naito, SANADA and BUSHI vs. Titan, Mistico and KUSHIDA Bully Ray vs. EVIL Hiromu Takahashi vs. Mark Haskins The Briscoes vs. Rey Bucanero and Ultimo Guerrero Kenny King vs. Josh Bodom 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_diamond Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Omega vs Naito 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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