p&b is a disgrace

One positive from yesterday is that Green & McCoist are now showing a level of acceptance & contrition that they should have shown from the start. I firmly believe that if they had been saying these things all along then the fans backlash would have been minimised and they would still be in the SPL. Thanks Greeno. Thanks Fatboy.

Dont know if its been covered as I haven't caught up yet - but is there any chance that Cove Rangers, Spartans, Huntly etc will take legal action as they were denied the opportunity to apply for the vacant SFL slot?

What a fuckin hypocrite Kenny Cameron is.

The Antichrist sat next to me on the bus this morning and got of at the same stop as me. When I popped into to Starbucks for a coffee, the Messiah was just leaving with a frappachino. Its inevitable that they are going to bump into each other at some point........

It feels like Christmas Eve. I'll be awake at 04.30 with a " Has he been yet, mum"?

I posted about 150 pages ago that he's back on the bevvy. Sad - but entertaining.

That the whole point though. Decisions on Dual Contracts and the penalty from the Apellate Tribunal need to be decided before SFL clubs can decide whether to admit Sevco - nevermind at what level they should be admitted. If they are admitted to any league, fixtures need to be reshuffled. If the Apellate Tribunal THEN decides that a suspension or expulsion is appropriate then we have complete chaos again - and no time to reorganise.

Fair point - to an extent. I went on a vodka fueled rant after a long day - for which I apologse. They've delegated the decision to the SFL - but did not abdicate responsibility.

While I agree with almost everyting in the Hibs statement - its easy to make these comments froma position where your club has abdicated responsibility of that tough decision and delegated it to the SFL. It therefore doesn't really matter what supporters organisiations of the SPL clubs think - its up to the SFL supporters to stand firm, canvass our clubs, and work for the long term future of our game. Not a short term kneejerk hvn saving scheme.

Loved this comment from RTC

NEWS FLASH!! Rangers are dead. Dead I tell yah!

I want that shake up. But i want it to be properly debated and thought out. Not rushed through to faciltate a new club and to appease the Bully Boys. In addition, any new club entering the league set up should apply to join at the entry level. This would happen with any other club and Newco are no different. I want a shake up, but I dont want rules bent to accommodate one club........and I really dont want my club being forced to spend 10's of thousands of pounds policing that mob next year. Its far too soon after the firebomb threats etc Edited due to my fuddled, gin fucked fingers.

Thats certainluy the intension of the carve up - but I honestly don't believe that they have all their ducks in a row to be able to fulfill any commitment. The best option for them id to take a year out to prepare during which fully considered reform should be possible.

Raith have their first pre season friendly against Ross County on Tuesday at Starks Park with a 7.45 kick off. Anyone who wants to lend some support for the clubs stance on these matters is welcome to pitch up. I'm sure the club will be happy to accept a tenner from everyone of you.

MTJ - Morbidlyobese Traynor ( Journalist )

I quit elike the thought of this thread slipping down through the leagues along with the Newco - and eventually disappearing all together..

1. 16 million will be lost to Scottish football if SEVCO5088 are not parachuted into SFL1 2. The majority of this will impact the SPL clubs or SEVCO themselves 3. Some SPL clubs may enter administration if this happens 4. With this knowledge, none of the 11 SPL clubs voted to allow entry to SEVCO5088 to the SPL So, in the full knowledge of the implications for them, SPL clubs did not allow entry. Any implication that SEVCO5088 MUST be parachuted into the SFL1 to save scottish football from meltdown is irrelavent - even if it is true. The clubs that will be impacted the most know full well the potential impact on them and also that the only route for SEVCO5088 if to apply for admission to SFL3. But they have voted in favour of scottish football finding its true level and living within its means - even if some of them become casualties themselves. The need to be commended for that and the SFA has an obligation to support that.

1. 16 million will be lost to Scottish football if SEVCO5088 are not parachuted into SFL1 2. The majority of this will impact the SPL clubs or SEVCO themselves 3. Some SPL clubs may enter administration if this happens 4. With this knowledge, none of the 11 SPL clubs voted to allow entry to SEVCO5088 to the SPL So, in the full knowledge of the implications for them, SPL clubs did not allow entry. Any implication that SEVCO5088 MUST be parachuted into the SFL1 to save scottish football from meltdown is irrelavent - even if it is true. The clubs that will be impacted the most know full well the potential impact on them and also that the only route for SEVCO5088 if to apply for admission to SFL3. But they have voted in favour of scottish football finding its true level and living within its means - even if some of them become casualties themselves. The need to be commended for that and the SFA has an obligation to support that.

SFL clubs need to stand by their priciples here. If that means some SPL clubs who have built their business model on a healthy SEVCO5088 being in the SPL go into financial meltdown - well, thats entirely for those clubs to deal with. Turnbull comment is 100% spot on Come an join us!

Jackie Levy on Sky News just reported that Charles Green is confident that the SPL will today vote to allow his club into the SPL. :lol:

Probably shouldn't have posted that - didn't think it through properly. I have deleted my post - can you do likewise please? And anyone else who has posted iti n a reply.

Does anyone see parallels with the recent wranglings at Barclays. Listening to Bob Diamonds comments this moring theres the same lack of ownership, accountability, arrogance and contrition comming from them.

No. They want us to let Rangers/sevco away with everything sothat they can continue to earn a big fat paycheck by writing OF sectarian centric pish on a daily basis.

Why, thank you - kind sir.

Why are they appealing? Aaaah - you're probably right. They are appealing the tax demand because they actualy have no case to answer. I get it. BTW - don't eat the crayons - they're poisonous.