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I agree. You actually get all sides of a debate.

My passport says ‘United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland’ No, I see England as being part of Britain/UK, same as Scotland is.

Aye, there’s a similarity.

No mate, I’m just referring to the other 6. I know Ulster is the 9 counties, but many people refer to NI as Ulster on it’s own, hence UTV.

Hi mate, yes Britain and the UK are the same thing IMO. That’s cool you have a Spanish relative. My dad’s cousin married a Spanish lady so I’ve got a distant-ish cousin in Pamplona. He has asked me to go and visit but I’ve yet to take him up on the offer. My ‘kith and kin’ remark was more about the country as a whole, and wasn’t intended to be exclusionary.

Exactly, and the answer is very simple. Britain. Along with our kith and kin in England, Wales and Ulster. From Thurso to Truro and Parkhill to the Shankill.

He has debated the topics at hand, just like everyone else. One thing I commend Fletch for is not fighting insults with more insults. It just drags the board down, and, most importantly, Div doesn’t want it. We can all get along fine if we just act like reasonable human beings.

If Dotaman isn’t dishing out abuse, then he’s dishing out red dots. I refuse to engage with him anymore. He probably actually thinks telling you to F off is clever.. that’s the mentality.

No, I’d still love our kith and kin, but I’d be sad that they’d no longer be in the same country.

Well I don’t see how it can be taken any other way, Asim. It seems obvious to me that the author(s) meant what they said. Perhaps we have different grasps on the English language. At the end of the day, referenda to break up a country are huge events, especially when the country is as significant as ours. From Yell to Fontwell and Whitley Bay to Tigers Bay, I love the place and it’s people. That may mean nothing to you, but it’s the way I am. I don’t want constant referenda.

I hold my hands up, I used to be bad for feeding the trolls, but I’m now a lot better at just letting things go.

A wise decision. Never be dragged down by these people. Thing is, we were in the majority in 2014 and we are in the majority now. Cool Britannia

You choose to take it that way because it suits your agenda. It’s perfectly plausible to read it the way we and so many others do. Your anger should be directed toward those who drafted the white paper. Trying to get people to vote for separatism by telling them it wouldn’t be revisited for a generation was disingenuous at best and downright deceitful at worst. Your mob made your bed by spouting these claims, so I’m afraid you now have to lie in it.

If you don’t want to address my salient points, then I’m happy enough to be ‘done’.

I was recently given advice from an unlikely source to not react to trolling, and I am now taking that advice. It really improves the posting experience. However, if anyone has anything sensible to say, then go ahead.

Rangers remaining the same club annoys a lot of people, which is a real shame. I'm not trolling. We just have different political opinions. It happens. If you wish to discuss the polling further, then give me a shout. I won't be drawn into a slagging match though.

I'm very comfortable with our exit from the EU. Europeans are not our kith and kin.

Missed 20? Incorrect. I've never claimed to be a huge fan, but Rangers are my team.

Are you against Germans? That would make you Germaphobic, shirley? OK, I’ll get me’ coat.

Good evening buddy, lovely to see you in such fine fettle as always. The polls were generous to Yes pre-18/09/14, as the image shows. This is still the case when you strip out the undecideds. This could have happened for a number of reasons, but it still happened, evidently. It also means that unless the polling companies have changed their methodology, then it’s likely still the case, in my humble opinion. I didn’t say The Vow affected the campaign or not. Personally, I don’t think it did, but even if it did then so what? The Vow was kept. No doubt this’ll be another thing you’ll dispute. It’s my firm opinion that the bloody awful Better Together campaign actually helped Yes in the long run, so I could just as well point to that. At the end of the day, we voted and Britain won by 10.6% (we can round that up to 11%). Those polls showed much smaller gaps, even when you take the undecideds out.

Fletch, my advice would be not to reply to this abusive nonsense, especially when he doesn’t understand the role of Holyrood. Wrestle with a chimney sweep, and you’ll only end up dirty.

Same here, Fletch. The idea of separating us from our kith and kin in England, Wales and NI is horrific. It sends a chill up my spine.

Honestly mate, my head’s fried after all this! Perhaps I’m not the man I used to be, but I can’t carry on.

Whether we benefited from the Union can only be determined on improvement of pre-Union Scotland, and not opinions of how Scotland may have ended up otherwise. All in my humble opinion.

Well that would be something else entirely, and of course, a matter of opinion. And I thank you for keeping it respectful.