Albus Bulbasaur
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Just now, GAD said:
Elaborate on what? My point is a case will need to be made either way, that's not my job anymore than it's yours. I don't mind you not making a positive case for the union either, it's fine for you to leave it up to others as well. We are not politicians. Also, at no point did I say we should blindly believe everything will be solved by independence either.
However, if you think the absolute shambles of Westminster over the past 6 years, the loss of previously held rights, and the massive reduction in the standard of living, as well as Johnson and the Tories record in government aren't going to be front and centre of any campaign that may happen, then you are in for a big surprise. The record of the Westminster government is going to be a huge argument for Independence.
I've already said it'll be front and centre of their GE campaign, if they were confident of having a referendum we'd actually see substantive arguments other than "Westminster bad". You know tackling issues like Currency, hard borders, EU membership, Nato etc...
The record of Westminster isn't a huge argument for Indy, that's been my whole point. It's a reason why some people are unhappy but it's not providing an alternative by any means. The only people that would find this point as compelling are people that are already ideologically sold on Indy.
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26 minutes ago, GAD said:
Yeah, but I'm not arguing that. I'm saying there is a case that needs to be made for independence, but there is also a case that needs to be made for staying in the UK as it currently stands. In fact, let's be honest here, you are the one advocating that we blindly believe everything will be fine if we stay in the UK, despite almost 6 years of pretty much constant crisis, without putting up any points or arguments as to why this is a reasonable stance.
Of course you're not arguing it but you're not elaborating which leaves your post as just what I stated it was.
You agree the case needs to be made I'm just pointing out the rhetoric about how shit Westminster is isn't an argument for Independence, it's fair enough you want to leave it up to others to make the positive case for Indy and I'm not having a pop at you over your reluctance to do so.
I've also never once said we should blindly believe everything will be better in the UK or said anything close to that, you've made that up. I've not attempted to make a case for remaining in the Union, the status quo is we are in the Union and Indy seems unlikely, until that changes the onus isn't on me. From my other posts in this section if you've seen them then you may gather I think and want Labour to win the next GE, I think that would be far more appealing and help the wider British public more than leaving the UK would.
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2 minutes ago, eez-eh said:
It’s an open forum, a post doesn’t need to be personally aimed at me for me to respond. But maybe that’s the case for you.
Not at all, I shitpost all over the place.
I'll try and temper my language as to not indirectly offend you in future.
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25 minutes ago, renton said:
It's not propaganda - but it's not entirely enlightening either. Ask the public if there should be a referendum in 5 years, they'll say Yes. Wait those 5 years, ask them if there should be a referendum that year and you'll get a No answer.
Same with GEs. People tend not to want to be bothered by politics (it's a particular disease of these isles) or think about it but in the end they'll engage with the issue if it's presented.
Can't recall where but some people on here were previously discussing the idea we would have a referendum on if we wanted to have one.
From what you've said that sounds like a very hard sell if it were to be the case.
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I'm adding "sensitive wee souls" to the list of sufferers.
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54 minutes ago, eez-eh said:
Stormzy train of thought:
Suffering from intense hayfever - exclusively for VLs and speccies.
Repeatedly getting banned from Pie and Bovril dot com and crying about it every time - for life’s winners.
10/10 response if this was a anywhere near truthful.
I don't like Stormzys music though and my post wasn't personally aimed at yourself even if the stars aligned on that particular one.
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14 minutes ago, GAD said:
I agree, the case needs to be made for independence. What I'm also saying though is a case needs to be made for the UK as well. My "perceived" grievances with the UK are shared by many, saying the UK is currently utterly dysfunctional isn't exactly controversial, there are over a hundred MPs for the ruling fucking party who agree! Pretending this can't get worse either way is as myopic as it comes. Both sides need to make a case as to why their way will be better than what we have now. If all the UK can offer is more of this, then that's a huge boost for yes.
No but blindly believing Indy Scotland would be any better without putting up any points or arguments explaining why can't be treated as a reasonable stance.
Fair enough that you don't want to make the positive case yourself, it would be quite nice if someone within the SNP would actually do so rather than hiding behind their veil of secrecy though. I think they need to tackle the pertinent issues that lost them the last referendum early on this time but I think the lack of forthcoming pro Indy arguments shows they're not exactly expecting to be fighting a referendum anytime soon. The rhetoric you've used is similar to what they'll use in the next General Election right enough.
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18 minutes ago, GAD said:
The idea that there is no risk in staying in the union, therefore no case to be made for it, is wrong. Since 2014, when we voted No, we have been taken out of the EU, the currency has tanked, wages have stagnated, we've had multiple general elections, have a hard right populist government with a huge majority of power based on a minority vote, who have basically promised to rip up the current laws protecting our human rights and are making laws to suppress dissent. Beyond that though they are pretty much incapable of governing and are making up policy on the hoof depending on the morning's headlines. The cost of living crisis is only just getting started, and already, in real terms, most people are poorer than they were in 2014.
The last 6 years or so have not been stable, they have not been good to the normal working people of the UK. It's been chaos, with no real indication that it's likely to change in the near future. Yeah, Brexit has been a complete disaster, but mostly because the UK government has made it so. To suggest no case has to be made to stay in this disaster as it is just now is crazy. The current dysfunctional state of the UK is a massive point in favour of independence and it will need to be addressed.
Not really.
You've listed your perceived grievances with the UK which is fair enough, you now need to further this post and address why each gripe you have would be improved under an Independent Scotland.
You've mentioned economic arguments, can you make a case that under an Independent Scotland wages would increase, the economy would perform better, we would rejoin the EU? If you can't then those issues you've raised yourself aren't answered by blindly leaving the UK. It's hardly a good sales pitch to say, here these things are all shite, let's potentially make them 10 x worse with the added bonus of a decade of austerity and a hard border with our biggest trading partner...
You've also rightly said Brexit would be a disaster but until you can provide alternatives you're basically advocating further disaster without anything positive on offer. At this point in time leaving the UK would leave Scotland out of the EU and the UK for the foreseeable future. Your argument seems to be Brexit was shit let's now do it again but with Scotland...
Saying the UK is dysfunctional let's potentially have more dysfunction isn't a convincing strategy, you're basically just doubling down on your already entrenched position, which will go well in an echo chamber but does absolutely nothing to convince anyone that's not moved by soundbites.
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Jun 30, 2022 
47 | Avg. Guesses: 7.08
= 8
#globle
Stinker.
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3 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:6 minutes ago, Albus Bulbasaur said:Try manning the f**k up.
Clearly never had it.
I did have it when I was a wee boy but I literally manned up and grew out of it.
It's basically an illness exclusivley for children, ginger people, speccy people and massive VLs.
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Try manning the f**k up.
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2 minutes ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said:
Can't find it now but it was a Twitter thread by some OSINT guys using satellite and other images vs the pictures that showed the explosion/smoke cloud
I've tried having a search and I can only find people countering those claims. I'd say the evidence out there seems pretty conclusive they struck a mall with civilians in it.
https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2022/06/29/russias-kremenchuk-claims-versus-the-evidence/
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35 minutes ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said:
Thon big fat lad is Ukrainian, and the missile that "hit a mall" seems to have actually hit a factory.
What's your source for the mall actually being a factory?
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48 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:
Ireland has no oil whatsoever and a far better standard of living and GDP per capita than the UK...
So please explain why we are too stupid to build a better, fairer, richer society?
As opposed to the romantic, patriotic bile.Who is trying to make that point?
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I think one of the biggest unexplained issues we've had no answer on is would an Independent Scotland be in favour of Canzuk?
Unfortunately the acronym would be visually hindered by an "S" imgho.
I would like this to be addressed urgently.
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Great self aware username though.
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7 hours ago, Syme said:
Just back in the UK after a very long time away. (Not "away" as in Saughton or the Bar-L) Semi-retired. In London just now. Not sure to stay. Very much doubt I'll go back to Scotland. Will likely watch a few games on visits.
Grew up in Edinburgh. Rugby school. Went to Hearts & Hibs now and then but wasn't captivated by Turnbull's Tornadoes. Didn't feel enough sympathy for a struggling yo-yo Hearts to follow them. Used to watch the erse cheeks too, especially in Europe or playing each other.
Always had a soft spot for Morton. Maybe because the club seemed to mean more to Greenock than most clubs mean to their town. Maybe because I admired Andy Ritchie. Maybe because Jim McLaren in "Porridge" supported them. Even went to a couple of games at Cappielow on a couple of brief visits to Scotland in the noughties.
From afar, Scottish football appears strange. I find Celtic's political posturing amusing. Perhaps it's "political correctness" but I've not seen the term "plastic paddy" in print for nigh on 20 years. Used to be applied regularly to lads waving tricolours who've not been west of Saltcoats. It's due a comeback. I like my Rangers fans to be of the fierce variety, rather than merely staunch. It's comforting that so many still appear to be. The public pronouncements on "inclusion" from the Ibrox boardroom grate with me.
Hearts still seem to be Hearts. Conservative, saving their bawbees, many likely still attending chapel. Hibs look to be transitioning into St. Pauli. Leith messageboards suggest the average Hibby has transitioned from a wannabe Francis Begbie or Bradley Welsh into Neil from "The Young Ones." I can't believe that's a genuine reflection of their supporters.
I get the impression of widespread approval for the charitable donations being handed to second-rate players at Cove, Kelty, Queen's Park, Brora and Darvel. I find this perplexing. I do not approve.
I'll not be posting in politics sections. Last UK politician I voted for was Ken Livingstone, when I was living in County Cricklewood in London. I view a career apparatchik, leading a movement that's striving to better the lives of a constituency made up of the working classes, as being acceptable. Career apparatchiks striving to better the lives of a constituency of career apparatchiks is less agreeable. I can't see that I'd ever vote for a Labour Party candidate again. Having lived in two countries that have ruptured on ethnic lines, I shall keep my views on the SNP to myself.
I find the opinions of 90%+ of Scottish fans on David Martindale and David Goodwillie unsettling.
Ditto what could be termed "The hate that hate produced" surrounding The Rangers Football Club (2012) Limited.
I shall try not to offend any more folk than is necessary.
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1 hour ago, welshbairn said:
I think if you have to look it up you shouldn't post your score. I'm getting the hang of the Pacific a bit, there aren't many countries so you get to it eventually. It's the Caribbean that does me in, I haven't a clue where anywhere is.
Aye I don't post when I cheat or I do a spoiler.
Other than one time I saw you post a 3 two days in a row so I thought I'd post a 1 shot as bait
Before playing Globle I knew f**k all about African countries location wise, I knew plenty of names but couldn't point to them on a map but now I'm confident I could get a good chunk accurately.
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15 minutes ago, Clockwork said:
A stinker today, into double figures. Sorry to be a thick **** but how do you upload your scores?
At the top right next to the cog brings up your score and the option to share.
What's everyone's thoughts on when to give up? For today's I had worked out it was in the Pacific and wasn't Samoa and that's pretty much the end of my knowledge of that area. I knew I didn't know it so looked it up, I had 8 attempts before giving up but that seems like a good score and a bit of a cop out.
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33 minutes ago, RawB93 said:
Further proof I'm indeed staunch and content with my British identity.
Thank you.
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God that was brutal viewing at times. The posh boy dancing was eye bleeding, I can't dance and that would likely be how I'd perform but it was so hard to watch.
Also blowing up over the heart rate monitor task is the biggest red flag on the go.
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No Voters - what say you?
in The Politics Forum
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I've highlighted the argument that you've made and then repeated. This is an advancement of Wesminster is shit, you want your individual vote to be worth more. Fair enough, that's respectable and extremely similar to why so many people voted for Brexit.
I disagree regarding the perpetual Tory rule argument.
You may have missed it but I said to GAD that the Westminster is shit argument is one that's unlikely to convince any floating voters, you'll get greenies for your impressive Tory bashing but other than that it's furthering none of the bigger issues.
Congrats on providing a decent point regarding individuals feeling better represented, think that's the first one posted by anyone since Nicolas speech.
Yeah fair enough, we can agree to disagree on the effectiveness of that attack line.
Hopefully we'll see some substantive points put forward soonish, I'm very cynical that will happen and maintain the view we're not seeing any because they'd prefer to fight a GE on the Westminster shit line.