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I was thinking about the wider trust board and not the rep on the club board. The statement appears to suggest overtures have been made to the trust board and that the door is open for a working partnership. I’m not suggesting it is an open door in the way described by the chairman.

Bit that grabbed me in that statement was the reference to the supporters trust. Is there any evidence of efforts to build a collaborative approach with fans.

I agree. No disrespect to Edinburgh City but I imagine they’re surprised how easy it was to beat us. Hammered by the team that finished 4th in the league below and had a couple of teams hot on their tails in 5th and 6th place.

I fall into the older category and believe me the results matter. Right now I’m raging at the state of things on and off the park. I think the difficulty is knowing what can be done to meaningfully tackle the ownership problem, inadequacy of the board and the end result of the two…..a failing team.

Going along in hope over expectation. Agree with Jordo1872 that we can’t concede any further goals and an early goal for us might just be a platform to make a game of it.

A well deserved title. Congratulations. Good luck in the championship next season.

I’ve no doubt we will cut our cloth. Would say though that league 2 is a different environment to what it once was…, as a couple of well kent clubs have found to their cost in recent seasons.

I’m not so sure about the virtues of cutting our cloth given the recent need to 25k crowd fund to prevent going under. Yes if we’ve been mortgaged to the hilt and the owners were to default that’s a crisis and probably curtains. Ultimately everything does go back to the ownership situation but I’m not relaxed about cutting our cloth in the division below or the inability of the board to demonstrate a shred of leadership in a what’s been a pitiful past two seasons.

It matters. Going down would further reduce income by quite a bit…..a dent in season ticket sales, reduced pay at the gate, lost hospitality and sponsorship revenue. You can’t of course downplay the dire effect of the ownership situation, but given our board’s only strategy appears to be muddling through on a break even basis, the drop into league 2 is another big step towards flicking off the light switches.

I’m speechless. That’s all folks.

And unsurprisingly both struggling to stay in League 1. At a q&a last night our manager talked about the importance of a good structure off the park. Again unsurprisingly the teams faring well in the league have this……allows continuity on the park with player retention via 2 year contracts. Im sure other things contribute to success and failure but I get his point.

Honest question. Does a board not have responsibility for protecting a clubs assets and to ensure these are not put at risk? I genuinely accept our local board are fans, work hard for the club and may be in a thankless position. Their remit may not directly cover ownership issues. I would though have thought there would be an acknowledgment of the perilous position the club has been placed in as a result of the leveraged buy out and a willingness to work with the trust to at least ensure there is some form of protection over club assets. Otherwise it’s fiddling while Rome burns.

Key things for me : alarming that club was purchased from loans against club assets (land including the pitch). Not one penny of additional investment from Cognitive. Disqualified person appears to have considerable active involvement in decision making. Ad hoc approach towards day to day running of the club. Lack of proper business infrastructure to support/inform decisions and ensure the club is secure No clearer on why the Cognitive crew are involved with a 3rd tier Scottish Football club (other than having been persuaded by the disqualified person to front his ambitions)

I struggling to understand this. The trust board member is on the board to represent the views of trust members and wider supporters. The trust rep on the board should absolutely attend trust member meetings (and communicate regularly with members in other ways). If not how does the trust person on the club board fully represent the membership and take forward priorities. There really shouldn’t be a conflict of interest.

I think the chairman has been poor on his communication but I don’t believe his attendance at tomorrow nights trust meeting is required. Credit to the manager for putting himself in the frame but again I think, as TFF and Moonster said, tomorrow night is not about the current playing side of things. Its been a long time since the last trust meeting and there is a lot of business to discuss. I’d like time to be spent discussing the recent trust letter to the board, in which valid concerns were raised, and agree where we go from here after receiving a tepid response (IMO) from the club chairman to the trusts letter.

I’m old enough to remember the Dumbarton sports bags (used as a school bag usually) in the 70s. Got mine from Tyrells sports shop in the Vale. White plastic with two black stripes sandwiching a gold band that was shiny gold ….. like gold plate.

I’ve said before that 32 points ( 2 wins) could be enough for 9th place. That leaves East Fife needing 3 wins and possibly a draw IF we stay ahead on goal difference. Hard to see us getting the 2 wins as things stand, but it’s a slim chance, and warrants the throw of the dice of a senior player in charge to motivate and galvanise the team.

Totally agree… on every point. We might be skint but it’s a bad mistake to then sleep walk our way to even bigger problems experienced by Berwick, Brechin and this seasons lambs Cowdenbeath.

Wheels have come off. Managers interview was an unpleasant watch. Stevie Farrell looks broken and has resorted to publicly blaming players. Players don’t have a voice in this but their nervy, mistake riddled, and uncoordinated display paints a picture that they ain’t on the same page as the manager. We’ve had months now of tinkering with personnel and apparently positive work on the training ground. In reality confidence is shot and it sadly shows each week. Only our board can end this and it’s high time they acted. At the same time a good look in the mirror wouldn’t go amiss.

The football we’re watching has been poor for a good few seasons with little sign of improvement. I’d still prefer not to see an unpleasant atmosphere. Weary resignation and folk chucking going is understandable. But most, if not all, of the positives in recent years are down to the efforts of the trust, volunteers, certain sponsors and fans putting their hands in their pockets. We’ve enough about us as a support to tackle the owners, who ultimately, appear to be choking the life out of the club.

Aye…. with the caveat it will need to be the very same players that get us out of the mess

And there’s been a lot more wrong with the team all season that has little to do with a few ill chosen passes by someone who has played a handful of games.

I fully agree with your previous post BSF about the off field problems. On young Stainger though I think its unrealistic to expect an inexperienced player at this level to have an impact in a struggling team. What is noticeable is how quiet most of our experienced players are during a game. Little positive encouragement or helping steer the less experienced through the game. I think most people expected under Farrell that we would at least have a team that worked as a tight unit and battled their way through games. Instead we’ve got a collection of individuals.

That was a shocking performance today given what was at stake. Manager has to take responsibility for the state we are in. It’s high time though that our absentee owners, hiding behind our managerial board, are forced to reveal their plans for the club and publicly called into question if things don’t add up. I don’t imagine this will be easy but the current, amateurish set up, just doesn’t cut it at this level.

Nobody in a sons jersey playing like this game means something. Where is our midfield.