Kenneth840

There is no point discussing the SNP period, because the UKSC will say no, SNP will hold a preterendum or more likely ns will find another reason to deny the mandate for Independence. She doesn't have the guts to take on the uk.

Apparently it is never the SG fault, always WM. Never ever blame the SG because it will give you a smacked erse. We are the eejits, we think things are going wrong in Scotland. But its all ok if we only follow the leader.

The SG handed back powers over Welfare/Socials security a while ago because they couldn't manage it. Check it out for yourself, they handed powers back to westminster.

Why are you blaming the uk? The power to change things rests with us, the Sovereign Scottish people. It is not westminster you should be blaming for our lack of progress on Independence, it is Holyrood and their delay in forcing it. So c**t and f**k as much as you like, it is the elected MPs and MSPs of Scotland that are delaying it.

Its a pretend referendum anyway, NS has said it herself. Doesn't matter whether the UKSC goes for or against, the result of the pretenderendum will not be legally binding. NS and Scotgov own words. I am struggling to see how some people can find that difficult. They maybe won't spout right wing pish, but they are quick to do deals with capitalists, y'know like the Tories.

Comfy and Peter in one sentence, 100% correct. I shouldn't have downvoted it, my mistake, I never realised you had worked out Pishfart was a fraud.

I guess that's the no surrender side coming through. You would still be geographically British in an Independent Scotland. I believe you are correct to say it won't happen, not under NS tenure or her replacement Angus. What would be wrong with you having a Scottish passport? If Scotland was in a situation where its fiscal policy was sound, would you vote Yes?

Doesnt help when your own side backs out. 39 ffs. Doesnt fill me with confidence.

The game is up. 39 voted for. Where were the rest of them. Its done, over. Our own side has killed it.

They are the same. The Snp/green make up the SG atm.

A sensible plan. But the Snp haven't said that, would be good if they did.

Jedi, I don't think I could have put it better myself.

Day 1 of Independence without our own currency and more importantly our Central Bank (not bank of england) will be a disater that will ruin Scotland. The Snp plan is ridiculous and will destroy Scotland, it pains me to say that.

Excellent post. We need Salmond or at least a Salmond like figure. Sturgeon won't do it.

This must be why you are comfortable voting Snp, they are so alike Labour used to be.

Very good. So your thread should be renamed "Those that voted yes in 2014 and have changed their mind because the SNP have fucked things"

Wasn't meant to be in the first place.

I stood in shit I wiped it off But the SNP made me stand in it again

I FEEL like a NO voter today, is that OK?

And you are pulling the SNP sheep wool over your eyes. You mention gravy train, there is no more suppers of gravy than those at Westminster that refuse to back a Pro Independence Party, ALBA, when an ALBA mp stands up for Scotland in a British house that it so biased towards Scottish Independence and what do the SNP do? Instead of backing Scotland they walk out with a bow and curtsy. Fucking shameful. And keep the genital shit going, promote that as much as you like, make it secondary to our Independence. FFS

I will vote no in Nicolas future referendum if it happens. You did not read that wrong. I want Scottish Independence but Nicolas referendum is not a vote for self determination. I will give you, the fact i will vote no. The sterlingisation has already been agreed at conference, it is happening, like it or lump it. Scotland will be destroyed, it will have no lender of last resort. On day one 1. On day one 1, and once again on day 1. Short money from Westminster, because member subs have went down.

Hypocritical? No. I will vote for Independence, but for Nicolas plan of ruining Scotland with sterlingisation. Sterlingisation should only be done during the "transition period"

You are the unionist. You are the one that wants to make Scotland, Scotland under the SNP plan poorer than it is now. I want INDEPENDENCE but the current SNP do not. I stood in shit (Union) I wipe it off (Independence) I stand in it again (Indy SNP version.) I used to knock on doors and deliver leaflets for the SNP but I can no longer support this party that has become infiltrated by people that do not have Independence at heart. It no longer listens to members and has become corrupted by people that have no intention of delivering Independence. Example: Gender reform has went ahead anyway knowing it will be challenged by UK courts. Why haven't they done the same with the Scottish Independence referendum bill. Pushed it through parliament and let it be challenged by UK courts. ANSWER: They don't want Independence. Get that through your minds. Short money, pensions etc. I am not an ALBA member and I will go your da here, but history will show Nicola Sturgeon as destroying Scottish Independence.

If you read my posts correctly, you would see that I am not a unionist. I think it is you that is unionist that wants to vote for a unionist FM.

Hi Phil, how ye doing pal!