Bogbrush1903

I've watched the whole match twice in the last ten years from the BBC coverage at the time, and United played very poorly, Ralph Milne in particular lost his nerve and should've had United 1-0 up. I didn't think Vautrot made any obvious errors in favouring the home team and the penalty seemed legitimate. I just think United couldn't cope in the febrile atmosphere and the afternoon kick off didn't help with regards temperature. Perhaps Vautrot would've revealed himself had Milne scored but it was obvious from early in the game that he wouldn't require any intervention.

Most Aberdeen fans expectations at the moment is to find a manager who is a competent tactician, knows the squad and understands how to get the best from them. Unfortunately with Cormack he keeps choosing the antithesis of this with Glass, Goodwin, Robson and now Warnock. So if he keeps picking the wrong managers with shit results then we'll keep calling him out until he either gets it right, gets someone else to pick the manager, or finally decides that running a football club isn't for him. In my humble opinion, I'm at the stage now where I think Stephen Robinson would be the most sensible appointment. Now is not the time for taking unnecessary risks (although a new manager always brings an element of risk), the club needs stability....and needs the new manager in position preferably in the next couple of weeks so we can send Warnock back to Devon or wherever he left the SAGA tour... Having said all that, if Cormack continues his hands on involvement of the club then we're going down to the Championship eventually. The man seems to me to be a self-absorbed clown.

Haha, you've just been pumped 7-1 and you come on here gloating! Find some self-respect

I'm not a Saint but from what I've seen it's football's answer to Michelangelo's painting of Sistine Chapel ceiling...High renaissance football from that artisan Levein. Or to quote Alan Partridge, "liquid football". I'm eagerly anticipating tomorrow.

Your trophies won to goals scored ratio over the last ten years must be the best in the world...it just proves the point that you don't need to score many goals to win trophies. Our only trophy during this millennium saw us draw 0-0 at home to Alloa and 0-0 in the final against ICT en route to glory. Maybe if there were less goals then the broadcasting companies would leave our great game alone. Actually, I thoroughly enjoyed the 0-0 between the clubs earlier in the season.

If we did find a way to win on Wednesday, and you lose in Glasgow then we're two points behind your mob.

It might be false memory but I can't remember a time, at least in the last 20 years, when St Johnstone were ever free scoring. Well maybe apart one game at Pittodrie...

I'm not sure getting pumped in Wales and Northern Ireland is classed as a continental sojourn but it looks likely two of these three amigos will take their rudimentary footballing tactics into Europe. Although I wouldn't place any money on Killie repeating the trick next season if they're laying a proper playing surface in the summer. It's like QPR and Luton Town in the 1980s playing on the carpet rolled on top of concrete with the ball bouncing about like a pinball cushion.

Can we take these attendances as gospel though? Wasn't it a 50/50 split in those days and the home team would downplay the official attendance so they didn't have to give up so much cash to the opposition. Falkirk's Roxburgh netted I see

The Old Firm riot sparked change for the betterment (in my view) of Scottish football, in as far as fans were no longer coming into stadium with carry outs a bag of tins or a bottles of wine. I mentioned the Heysel which also initiated improvements with regards the Taylor Report and further afield as far as big crowds are no longer rountinely placed in dilapidated, ill-equipped stadiums. However, with regards the Heysel disaster, the Liverpool fans charging definitely initiated the deaths but don't underestimate the condition of the Heysel itself played in the the disaster...there was low flimsy wire fence segregating the Liverpool supporters from the Juventus family section, bits of masonry lying about, and the wall that eventually collapsed not fit for purpose. The Saturday before, the Main Stand at the Valley Parade had went up in flames because of the condition of the wooden stand and the build up of rubbish underneath. Consequently, there were troublemakers during this period amongst supporters but the Thatcher Government did nothing to force or encourage clubs to improve the environment where supporters went to watch their club. You sound a bit like the former Minister of Sport, Colin Moynihan, who also liked to suggest that all supporters were to blame for the actions of a minority.

There's a few steps in the timeline when the beautiful game turned ugly, both local and further afield factors. Off the top of my head: 1985: Bradford and Heysel tragedies. 1986: Souness arrives at Ibrox 1989: Hillsborough tragedy 1989 - 1992: Break up of the Soviet Union 1992: Guffball and Champions League begins 1993: Bosman ruling 1999: European Cup Winners Cup ends and his merged into UEFA Cup. 2003: Roman Abramovich takeover Chelsea 2008: The Qataris takeover Man City 2009: UEFA Cup rebranded 2010: Russia wins the right to host 2018 World Cup and Qatar wins the right to host a winter World Cup in 2022 I mean there's lots more before, in-between and after but all are included on the path to where we currently are, and I think its now went beyond the stage where it can be saved as the peoples game. Business has stolen the game with the the lie to fans of unlimited success and riches if you can attract major investment or sell players for huge sums of money. Now we're regularly told by the media that we can only expect to compete with those clubs that have similar annual turnover. It's ceased being a competitive sport.

I think it was the run of ten games without a goal that done him....and his £17k a week was never going to be sustainable...but yeah, he got sacked because he was winning without flair, that sounds like what all is old Oldco mates would've said on the radio

I haven't read the rest of the thread but my overriding thought from Saturday was how poor Barron, Jenson, Shinnie and Roos were... I think Warnock has improved us but he can't do much with the hand he's been dealt with regards the squad of players. I think we just need to put the main focus on the Scottish Cup and hope for a couple of breaks but we'll do well to get past Kilmarnock.

I'm fascinated to know more about Ronnie Jepson's actions at Heysel in 1985. He was acquitted of manslaughter, but it prevented his league playing career starting for four years. I can't find anything further online than the case against him being dropped though.

I've got an itch for the great outdoors now... can't wait to get the walking boots on again next month.

Wow, what a coincidence! An unhappy coincidence, I still can't understand the American media as they pointed their cameras directly in the faces of the poor parents of the teacher Christa McAuliffe as they watched the shuttle blow up and their daughter's death in real time as they looked up to the sky from the viewing platform at Cape Canaveral. The Israeli goalkeeper, Avi Ran, had a similar death to Kirsty MacColl. He was killed around 18 months after the match. The Israeli team that day is pictured below. St Mirren fans of a certain vintage may recognise Mechelen's Eli Ohana. If St Mirren fans don't remember Eli Ohana, then here is a reminder...

Has Sportscene been pulled at the last minute this evening? They were still advertising it on Sportsound at 10pm

I think this squad of players have Sevco's number, we were robbed of a second victory against them this season with at Pittodrie when the VAR referee bailed out their Belgian demigod. We need to seek revenge for that wrong and make this lot nervous again in their own backyard, and hopefully, spit in their faces (figuratively speaking of course)...

We're wanting Europe and the Scottish Cup though not just steered away from the bottom two. There is still a lot to play for with a capable manager onboard.

First-half was rubbish but it was a great second-half. I think the tactic was to allow Scales time on the ball because he's not particularly good on the ball; however, I would've like to see us pressure him more as I felt we could've profited. Killian Phillips was very good in the second-hald and the signs are he could be a good asset for us in the remainder of the season. That's the poorest Celtic side I've seen since Delia. I need to see it again but was it Shinnie that missed that sitter...if he finishes that then I feel we would've taken the three points. Clarkson's effort when clean through was also poor although I think he was offside. There were a couple of occasions when Clarkson tried the raking cross field Wembley pass when retaining possession would've been wiser under the circumstances. Well done to Peter Leven and the players though.

There doesn't seem to be a lot of appetite for this one judging the number of thread posts.

I saw Stephen Kenny at Dublin Airport last year bedecked from head to foot to man bag in Calvin Klein and thought to myself, "now there goes a man with sparse imagination". On other matters, did the Colonel ever manage the Pars?

I think McInnes achieved what he should've in the league given the circumstances. That's not to criticise, that's actually praise. Perhaps topping Sevco for a second time was overachievement in the League. Where, in my opinion, he underachieved was the domestic cup competitions, and to an extent, Europe, although he achieved a couple of notable results against Rijeka and Groningen. After, one semi-final, there were three teams left in the 2014 Scottish Cup, ourselves, St Johnstone and Dundee United. We're 1-0 up as the second half starts against St Johnstone, this should've been the time we swept into the final and finally lift the Scottish Cup after 24 years. Now, here we are, 10 years later, and aside from misjudged pass from Jonny Hayes in the 2017 final, we've never had as good a chance. I'm not saying we should expect to lift the Cup in those circumstances, but good managers seize the moment and make sure their players do the necessary.

Is that mitigation though or does a strong-minded, confident, experienced manager work with his recruitment team to pinpoint exactly what he needs? I never got the impression Robson had any grand plan of what he wanted to do tactically, or to be flexible enough to adapt to the opposition. Facing teams like St Johnstone, St Mirren and Kilmarnock at home is not like going to venues where we've struggled like Parkhead, Tynecastle or, to a lesser extent, Snake Mountain. I agree that one shouldn't look too hard at our run to the League Cup Final. Indeed, we never had a home tie, but we were absolutely horrible to watch on both Hampden visits, and the Hibs victory was a stroke of good fortune and a moment of magic from our best player.

Over-reactions perhaps but we're managerless and five points above the relegation play-off zone with a double header against the Gruesomes on the horizon, and a squad that's chucked it before when they don't like the manager. Blind optimism can mask things to a point, but we've just got through three poor managers in three years and now the person that appointed them is considering a 75 year old that's only previous experience has all been in England. I'll continue to "pant pish" or whatever the euphemism is for being concerned about the current situation.