Burnieman

Anyway probably veering well off topic, but the stage we're now at with the Pyramid, these are the sort of discussions that should be happening. Having the CEO of the SJFA potentially become Chairman of the WoSFL is bonkers, and not good for progress.

I think a couple did, but not four.

It's been talked about since the Pyramid began and yes, has been discussed at board level (as has HL2). Whether it happens is another matter, but at some point the SFA will try again with B teams / Conference / other crackpot idea. LL2 is a good chance to get a grip of it on LL terms. As for travel, potentailly a LL2 could look like Beith Auchinleck Clydebank Darvel Pollok Cumnock Broxburn Musselburgh Jeanfield Swifts Sauchie Dunbar United Dalbeattie Star Celtic B Hearts B 3rd B team 4th B team

It would open up for the top 5 or 6 of WoS / EoS Premier to move into LL2 (so 5/6 move up from EoS/WoS 1st Div etc), it should also open up promotion / relegation into LL1 going forward, and from the Wos and EoS into LL2. Problem with the Conference it was only 10 teams, national, and 40% were B teams. No solution will tick all the boxes.

Because the SFA will not allow it (too many voting members at tier 5) and the SPFL wouldnt allow it (they just want two leagues to drop into).

There's an SGM in 2 weeks time.

Not sure that's reason enough to persuade these clubs to be fair.

You can have three up/down between LL1 and LL2. Then for LL2 three down, and the Champions of WoS, EoS and SoS auto promoted (or thereabouts depending on pro/rel to League Two of course). With 32 members, the LL can accomodate 4 B teams and take control of that situation away from the SFA and put it to bed. The SFA had their fingers badly burned over the Conference debacle but the LL can offer them a solution that doesn't upset the current 16 member clubs. Four vacancies in LL2 (or two in LL1 and two in LL2, whatever) after that any other club who want a B team start at the bottom (like Livingston are about to do). What that would also do is allow WoSFL clubs, some of whom are shit scared at being the first to go to the LL, to move into LL2 along with a group of their chums.

"Lowland League 2" does make a lot of sense in so far as it should increase movement between the tiers which just doesn't appear to be happening anytime soon. We'll never have LL West and LL East as the SFA will not entertain a further 16 voting members at tier 5. Balance of power and all that. What a LL2 would also allow - and it's a dirty word around here - is a possible solution to B teams. With upto four places reserved in LL2 for them and then allow them to move one tier upwards (to LL1), and any number of tiers downwards (WoS/EoS), they become full LL member clubs not "guests". The B team issue isn't going to go away, and it may stave off the SFA trying again for the madcap Conference at tier 5. The other 12 places filled by application, with previous seasons league placings a significant factor. That's the kind of evolution/progress the game needs, not harking back to the Juniors.

A lot of clubs no longer want to be associated with the term "Junior" in the East and of course Highland, Lowland & SoS clubs aren't remotely interested.

"Alex McDowall will be Chief Operating Officer and John Fyfe will be Assistant Secretary/Treasurer. In order to accept this neutral position, Alex McDowall stood down as Chairman of Gartcairn Football Club with immediate effect. Both will take up these Roles from 1st December 2020."

If they tick all the boxes, then I can't see a problem in them being accepted. Both will be on 3g at the main ground of both clubs.

Wow, seriously?

Sigh......memories.......

What does that mean?

The Lowland League isn't in competition with the EoS, and vice-versa.

That's wild. So the Heid Bummer of the SJFA who's purpose is to promote and expand the Junior Cup back to what it once was as well as the game itself, could potentially be Heid Bummer of the WoSFL who are part of 4-way agreement to run the South Challenge Cup, and the prime Senior league in the West of Scotland. If that's not a conflict of interest I don't know what is.

Livingston B and Gala Fairydean Reserves

Is he required to resign his position with the SJFA? I recall a candidate to the EoS Board was disallowed due to his involvement with the SJFA. Conflict of interest.

I heard this today. First proposal apparently is to make the South Challenge Cup non-compulsory, a complete co-incidence of course. What's going on in the West, do they want to wind the clock back to the 1960's?

Two I believe, both B/Reserve teams.

Good result for Burnie. Being "best of the rest" has to be the aim. Not been to many games this season but from what I understand, long term injuries to important players plus the departure of our main striker to Linlithgow, has lead to erratic form whilst the squad undergoes a rebuild. Some very good U20's players in the pipeline, top of their league currently. Happy with mid-table obscurity this season.

I messaged him a couple of weeks back with a correction to one of the attendances, which he hasn't even read yet. Perhaps he isn;t using the forum anymore?

You've only just read them, yet you red dotted my post on one of them almost 3 weeks ago My post read "......perhaps just another troll ID" which is a reasonable assumption given the profile was deleted (which happens when moderators boot out trolls) and based on years worth of trolls infecting this forum.

Callum Carson leaving is probably a death blow to the WLC having any sort of decent non-league coverage. That said he clearly couldn't cover every game - and his priority was Livvy on a Saturday - so relied on clubs themselves sending in match reports/news which he would include where he could, even match pics. Not every club did that so they didn't get much coverage, and then complained about it! Callum done a lot for the non-league game in WL in his 10? years at the Courier. Not sure who now does it but perhaps with shrinking sales they are covering more than just sport.