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Macauley Tait has gone from B team to Scottish Cup semi-final appearance in 5 months.
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If Gretna also go down this season, it's squeeky bum time for the likes of Broomhill.
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1 hour ago, Cairn Cheerleader said:
Ok children calm down...
the below containers have been installed which are toilets and a food cube but not completed yet and more will arrive. The portaloos were taken away due to the fact we didn't have a home game in 7 weeks and now don't have one for another 3 weeks so wasn't much point. The sporty provided toilets for the pollok guys and same for our last game v Hurlford.
full hospitality was given to the committee (who didn't turn up) and the players who we gifted 3 goals lol
see all you lovely people next season where I'm expecting Arthurlie and Polloks grounds to offer sushi or any hospitality for that matter. Well maybe we won't see Arthurlie right enough.
thanks all
It's taken a decade to move from portaloos to recycled container toilets?
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If you charge an entry fee, you should be obligated to provide M/F toilets at the very minimum, preferably hot/cold drinks as well. This isn't the 19th century, well......
I was at Linton Hotspur yesterday, a new EoS club from the Border Amateurs. Great set-up, large bar area servig food and drinks with TV & seating, another hospitality area under construction (all using new Portacabin style buildings), toilets and a seated stand for about 50. Their attendances are less than 100.
If a club lke that can provide facilities, surely clubs who spend £000's on players can as well.
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17 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said:
Making relegation easier so you can be promoted back more readily isn’t that a compelling vision - SPFL sides aren’t that myopic. And yes pretty sure over time an SPFL club will make the return journey and a former Tier 5 club will fall back to that level
Almost certainly but in the short term it's only going to get harder as the Edinburgh Uni's and Gretna's of this world depart to be replaced by much better teams. That has a fair way yet to play out, and I'll stick my neck out by saying a former SPFL team will drop to tier 6 before one returns to tier 4 (in the LL).
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So is it;
League Cup: EK and Bo'ness Utd
SPFL Trophy: EK, Bo'ness, Cumbernauld and Tranent (plus the B teams)
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2 minutes ago, Cowdenleith said:
Thanks, I wasn’t aware there was a lump sum payment made each year, other than Scottish Cup appearance money.
It's effectively profit sharing. So this year should be a decent whack on the back of Euro24 income.
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2 minutes ago, Cowdenleith said:
There’s no evidence on CSS social media that they have any fan based schemes to raise money. What SFA payments other than Scottish Cup money are you referring to?
Agreed though, the coaching staff do a fantastic job.
Well member clubs receive their annual payment in December each year, and depends on what level you're playing at. It's anywhere between £4,000 to £12,000 in recent years for EoS clubs. Then there's Scottish Cup appearance money on top of that. Then of course, there was a Covid payment in 2021 from the National Lottery via the SFA which for LL clubs amounted to around £20,000.
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1 minute ago, Dean Learner said:
I have no idea but if it is then I can only assume they have gotten around that by pointing to the leisure centre toilets and vending machines.
Having been there, that's not a solution. It really is tin pot that a Premier club doesn't have toilets in their ground, a disgrace really and part of the problem okaying 3g cages.
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1 hour ago, Dean Learner said:
I have time for every club at this level trying to make the best of what they have but I have to say, it is a disgrace that MTC Park is considered an acceptable venue to charge £8 to watch a game at. No toilets, no food and the capacity must be tiny(not helped by dedicating half of the touchline to the small volume of home fans). Overtakes New Tinto as the worst venue in the league and it's not even close.
Isn't it a WoSFL regulation that there must be toilet and food facilities inside the ground?
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Plumped for a first visit to Linton Hotspur today and it was very enjoyable. A very impressive set-up for a club of their size and a borders derby win with a hard fought performance depite playing the last half hour with 10 men. Attendance around the 65 mark.
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I wonder if Uni can buck the trend of going straight though the EoS Premier like a Saturday night Madras.
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Just now, Nicholas Rage said:
Aye that's done and dusted, but hopefully in three years time it'll be a minority trying to push the agenda for a few quid.
Unless there's some sort of agreeable solution, if it goes to a vote in 3 years time I think the B teams will be gone.
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36 minutes ago, Nicholas Rage said:
Another B team yes voting club gone. Every cloud and all that.
B teams already in for the next 3 seasons, by that time hopefully there's a long term solution.
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10 hours ago, Cowdenleith said:
Surely there has to be, even to a lesser extent?
Their crowds are averaging 80, say they are all adults paying £8, so that’s £640 per game. Not much over £10k on gate money for the whole season.
I think they do a bit of hospitality, no lottery that I am aware of, maybe they are very well sponsored?
Clubs like CCS don't survive on gate money alone. Lottery, raffles, bar takings, sponsors, SFA payments all add to it. Players may also be paid not much more than expenses. Either way, Jardine and his coaches do a tremendous job.
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11 hours ago, Cowdenleith said:
Someone has to be putting their hand in their pocket to fund CSS, even if it’s not on the scale of some clubs.
I don't think there is.
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23 minutes ago, aidan-bufc said:
Gobsmackingly high or low?
Low, from what I understand of it. Gary Jardine works wonders with them.
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20 minutes ago, Omnishambles said:
Strollers really have won a watch with Jardine. Their budget and gates should completely defy being a top 6/7 team in this league.
Their budget would probably be gobsmacking to most people.
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Missed it out
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2 hours ago, MrIrvinePollock said:
Never really paid much attention to the 'B' teams, but the one benefit that I would have expected is an increase in the crowd counts when they visit. The table doesn't reflect that. I'm also surprised at how low the crowd counts are for their home games.
It's as if nobody really cares about watching the emerging talent at Celtic and Hearts
I'd say an average of 268 is very decent for what amounts to U20 football (only 12 less than Albion Rovers, 20 less than Cowdenbeath), the 6th best average in the league. Celtic perhaps not so much.
On the flip side Gala's top two league crowds were against the B teams, Linlithgow got their second and third biggest against the B teams, CCS their biggest and third biggest. Stirling Uni third and fourth. Broomhill and Cumbernauld got their largest crowds against Celtic B.
That's a benefit in a league where you have four or five clubs that literally bring no fans at all.
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Update on twitter from @The Faceman today
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Update on twitter from @The Faceman today
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I can see them calling it a day. They are so far away from where they began, their financial backer(s) are going to get fed-up eventually chucking the money in to keep them afloat. They ain't hiring Dumbarton for free.