I don't think he was actually, if you read back the posts. I was only answering his direct questions to me.
I was asking with regards to the glencairn game. 5 mins after the red at a vital point in the game a goal lost. I believe extra man plays a part. But overall I think everyone can agree poor discipline is costly and has to stop. No point in going over and over it. It will only change when the players change.