Dawson Park Boy

Okay, make fun of it, but I certainly want to hear what they have to say. They appear to be anti- vaccination which I don’t agree with. I’ll take any vaccine going as long as it is properly tested. I can’t really argue with their statistics which seem accurate on death rates etc. Im going with an open mind which is something most folks on here don’t seem to have. You make my point about compromising healthcare which is exactly what is currently happening with so much resource going in to COVID at the expense of other ailments. Check the stats about non COVID deaths.

McMenemy is spot on with the points he makes. Complete bullshit!!

Will head round if I get diagnosed with covid in the interim. Maskless, natch You’ll be more than welcome, I’m sure. Love to meet you.

It’s called democracy. I respect your point but, being in a vulnerable age group myself, I feel I have the right to express my view. Come along and make your point. I can’t imagine the folks will be too threatening. The person who told me about it today said they we’re well behaved.

I presume you were watching the Kilmarnock game with your dad. Anyway, no need to miss the football. Next Saturday in Callendar Park there’s an anti lockdown, anti muzzle, freedom rally between 12 and 3. I understand there was one today (no knowledge) but another one next week. Id imagine it might be fun.

Great point. you could also include smoking and excessive eating. Lots of self- inflicted diseases.

Approximately 450 people die in Australia every day. Just putting your 4 from yesterday into context.

Your use of the word ‘deadlier’ is stretching it a bit considering you had 4 deaths yesterday. How many died from cancer or heart disease? In fact how many die every day in Oz?

Absolutely agree. Dont know about the SG, but the UK has stated that there will not be another lockdown as the economy cannot stand it and that we will just need to live/or die as best we can.

Actually, the BBC reported today that scientific evidence coming out of hospital cases shows that there is no second wave although it can’t be ruled out. More cases are coming to light due to more testing but, of those, very few are needing hospitalisation due to being younger and fitter. Sorry to bring this up here but it was raised by another poster.

Well spotted. As you know, I’m now protected by the freespeechforum.org.

Not quite. On another topic on p&b. Even more extreme.

You do understand healthy people under 60 could spread the virus to vulnerable people under 60 or people over 60 who have a very good chance of dying? I do indeed. Thats the chance well just need to take.

Watching the hypocrisy is just delicious to behold. I, of course, have my own views but they’re not for here to keep HSW happy,

I was always thought that Trudeau was the very epitomy of political correctness and wokery. Wow - how wrong can you be!

Absolutely correct. When did anyone last die of this virus of working age who is reasonably fit? Loads of folks die every day of cancer, stroke heart disease , dementia - you name it. The UK deaths in the last few weeks are less than the average. Time we realised we are being taken for mugs. Mind you, football players and fans will believe anything that’s put to them and follow like muzzled zombies.

The rely of an educated person???

There’s no doubt the players broke the rules but maybe it’s time we took a look at the policy. Its completely nonsensical. Here in Scotland there have been no deaths for a few weeks and for anyone up to around 60 who’s in reasonable shape, you’ve as much chance of dying from COVID as being struck by lightning. As this goes on, extra deaths from people not getting proper NHS treatment are piling up, cancers not being diagnosed, heart disease being ignored, you name it. We also see unemployment ratcheting up, poverty increasing, education being lost, the population being muzzled,the whole fabric of society being destroyed for what???? Im probably in a minority of one but I fail to see the logic in this. Sturgeon keeps banging on about eliminating the virus but the best that can be hoped for is containment and learning to live with it. This current policy is madness and will do nothing other can condemn thousands to the scrap heap, destroy our liberties through needless muzzling , ruin society and increase illness and disease of the non COVID variety.

Well, you’re correct about a keeper. Shouldnt be too difficult. Personally I think we’re well covered in defence but we must have an attacking midfielder. I understand we’ve been trying for Alston but no idea as to how things are going.

You make some interesting points about which I’ve given some thought. The SG has a policy of eliminating the virus. That was probably a reasonable goal a few months ago but not know. The policy, I think, should be containment and learning how to live alongside it till, hopefully a vaccine comes along or it fizzles out. I do like the Swedish approach which had no lockdown, no muzzles and trusted people to behave responsibly. At the outset their care home deaths were appalling which they openly admit, about as bad as here in Scotland, but since then their stats are good and, significantly, their drop in GDP is the lowest of the Western economies plus their kids lost no schooling. We desperately need to change tack and put all our resources into protecting the vulnerable as the young and middle - aged who are at miniscule risk need to get on with their lives.

Agree we should be our own safety officer but, if so, why the draconian restrictions on our civil liberties?

Agree, but realistically, I think it’s going to a long time coming. They have to be sure about side effects or there could be a catastrophe. Thinking thalidomide.

Yes - I would agree with your second paragraph.

Thanks for sharing your story on here. All I can say is to wish you all the best and I just hope you are getting all the medical help and financial assistance you are due. I have friends who should be getting cancer check ups but it’s just not happening due to the NHS being so focussed on COVID to the detriment on all else. Difficult times!!

I’m not saying it’s a goer but, as someone who’s had this disease and of a business orientation, I’d have thought you’d at least be interested in ideas to get us back to something approaching normality. All I ever get on here is negativity. Time for some ‘blue sky ‘thinking.