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  1. Junior football, what is the future?

    You're right. Just feel now is the time to switch the focus away from nomination if it can be avoided, would send a positive signal to teams joining the pyramid that it is indeed the right way to go.
  2. Junior football, what is the future?

    So much for the "pyramid" concept. Promotion and relegation should be decided on the pitch provided the teams in question are licensed, seeing there is a structure in place. Really need two promotion places to LL if they are serious about upping the standard what with all the strong junior teams coming into the pyramid.
  3. Junior football, what is the future?

    Yes. I would add that an existing cup would certainly need to be dropped, too many cup competions as is. The long history of the junior cup seems like something worth keeping in some form. At least float the idea with senior non league clubs. If they weren't interested, fair enough.
  4. Junior football, what is the future?

    Second that. After all, junior clubs have competed in the Scottish cup for a decade or so. It should go both ways. Besides if the Junior Cup was open to all nonleague clubs it would become a stronger competition, and help preserve junior culture and identity which is clearly important to many regardless of how this is viewed by others. Knowing they'd still be able to regard themselves as junior and still have the Junior cup might help clubs make the transition to the pyramid. It may also help make any merger between EoS and East juniors easier which is important as this seems to be one of the main stumbling blocks.
  5. Junior football, what is the future?

    Would surprise me if anyone moved back. What's the point?
  6. New clubs in the East of Scotland

    Yes, spotted the Fauldhouse boss remarks and that he stressed they were his personal opinions only. He seems to be pretty pro-active in engaging with the outside world on the Internet, which is to be admired. The same can't be said of many others unfortunately. But you'd have to think that he is saying what quite a few others are thinking. It wouldn't surprise me if the ERJFA are going to reshuffle the deck. But I don't see what they can do with the teams they have left without compromising the quality further with more regionalisation. The East Super League no longer seems to be appropriately named. Will others feel the same and feel its time to move to the EoS? You'd think at least a few will come to that conclusion before March 31 if not more.
  7. New clubs in the East of Scotland

    Very interesting predictions indeed. Although as I understand it Sygenta had already made their plan to join the EoS clear before the start of this current season. As we saw from the exodus last year, geography plays a big part in things. For example, Dunbar effectively had no choice but to follow their nearest neighbours and join the EoS, and I believe they werent the only ones who moved on that basis. So it is possible Fife might dictate which other clubs make the jump ? If we look at who is likely to be playing at tier 7 which is, as far as we understand, where any new applications will find themselves next year, lets call it EoS div 1 north, we can get an idea of which new teams would be playing who and there would be a solid core of at least three Fife teams: Oakley Burntisland Inverkeithing St Andrews (maybe) Crossgates (probably not) Would Rosyth, Lochgelly, Lochore and Kirkcaldy in the ERJ premier south be tempted to make the jump knowing they would be guaranteed these opponents right on their doorsteps? Perhaps not, given the ERJ premier south is exclusively Fife and WL at the moment and travel not much of an issue. The ER super league is more spread out however - would Thornton, Kennoway or Glenrothes be tempted to move if an EoS north offered less travelling with Tayside out of the picture? Not counting Newburgh and Tayport here. They are more in the Tayside sphere of influence than Fife in most ways I believe. But overall I don't know. Interested to hear what others' thoughts.
  8. Pyramid 2019/2020

    Good point and well made.
  9. Pyramid 2019/2020

    It's not rubbish whatsoever. There is no idea solution and there needs to be different approaches considered to deal with Scotland's bizarre geography. Particularly as the pyramid situation is changing as more teams enter making the original HL/LL divide not as straightforward as it was. Only a few clubs could get licensed? Then few would be eligible for promotion to SPFL2. If that meant there wasn't much movement out of one particular division of tier 5, so be it. In non-league, geography matters as much as the actual tier number. It is desirable to require all teams in tier 5 to be licensed, but is that actually really necessary? Ultimately it's the league that licensing is vital for. The reason for suggesting a Tayside league at tier 5 is to give relegated north of the Tay teams an alternative to the HL. Ultimately it could depend on whether the likes of Montrose would find playing in unlicensed east Junior grounds preferable to licensed HL ones.
  10. Pyramid 2019/2020

    Maybe a four way split would be better. When the HL / LL boundary was drawn, presumably they did it based on the spread of the clubs in the pyramid at that time. Which was 12 teams in the Lowland League, mostly in the east, plus very roughly 30 teams split between EoS and SoS - minus reserve sides. The majority of these teams probably in no danger of ever making it up to SPFL2. Even at that point, in terms of numbers alone, teams at tier 5 and below, and south of the dividing line were roughly twice as many as those north of it so it was already quite unbalanced from the start. Things have changed a lot since then and the imbalance is even more pronounced with the influx of former juniors - a fair few of whom have the potential to feature in League 2 in the not too distant future which may relegate SPFL2 teams north of the line into the HL. And as Enigma says its only going to become more imbalanced. A Tayside league at Tier 5 might be a better solution which would mean not moving the divide at the same time as keeping travel distances down. It would also provide a more palatable option for the likes of Montrose or other Angus sides if they got relegated, and be attractive for East Juniors North of the Tay. Below the Tay, if the west juniors entered the pyramid, there would be enough depth to have a LL east and west. The issue then would be how to work out who gets promoted to SPFL2 whilst taking the relative size and strength of each league into account. A straight semi final playoff between the champions of LL east and west, HL and Tayside leagues doesn't seem to be fair on the LL teams given they will be much more in number. With four regions at tier 5 there would need to be room for teams close to the dividing lines to change regions if necessary to balance leagues up after promotions and relegation, similar to how its done in England. There's the question of the SoS - would it be content to slot in at a lower tier under the LL west somewhere? Also there would obviously not be enough teams to set up a Tayside league without the East Juniors so a lot would depend on them agreeing to split with south of the Tay East Juniors before this could even get off the ground. Ultimately its very difficult to see any workable pyramid solution which doesnt see the south of the Tay East Juniors joining the EoS and that appears to be one of the biggest problems at the moment. Honestly the best thing right now would be if Fauldhouse decided to make the switch and set off another domino effect. Absolute tipping point for the whole East region is not far off.
  11. Junior football, what is the future?

    Agreed. Also doesn't look like a league entering the Pyramid at tier 6, or any other for that matter.
  12. Junior football, what is the future?

    I think the Scottish pyramid story would make a good movie, so many twists and turns, a lot of suspense about who will jump ship, selfless heroes like the EoS board, conniving villains like TJ, quite a bit of good old skulduggery. The East Juniors must know the likes of Fauldhouse are suffering due to their current league setup and thinking about jumping ship. The only thing they can do to stem the flow is to put a very misleading statement about the east region being accepted into tier six of the pyramid on their website. Similarly the EoS may have been pretty cute with that statement being leaked out a few days ago. Not suggesting this was done deliberately but it certainly suits their purposes. I would go further though and say they simply should have made this statement publicly. There is nothing particularly controversial in it, its simply a statement of their position and their interpretation of the rules surrounding changes to league structure at the base of the pyramid. The EoS have done everything else right I think. Seems clear to me that Fauldhouse and Witburn's only option is to join EoS if they feel too many trips to Tayside are hurting them financially, since even if the East Juniors joined the Pyramid they would be playing the same teams. Unless they think moving to the west region would solve their problems? Not sure travel would work out any better that way.
  13. Junior football, what is the future?

    Actually that is not a bad suggestion. The only problem is the east juniors have never had to worry about the borders area, whereas the EoS has never covered Tayside so I wonder if both systems work out about the same when it comes to the east.
  14. Junior football, what is the future?

    On the topic of floodlights, whilst I agree it's fairly suss timing of the SFA to suddenly insist on them for licensed clubs, are we not overlooking the obvious? For a significant chunk of the season any Junior club without floodlights can realistically only play games on Saturdays or Sundays kicking off early afternoon since there's just not enough daylight otherwise. That's surely part of the reason why clubs struggle to get games finished before the season is supposed to end. That and the big number of piddly cups, surely a few of those could be cut, and more meaningful ones retained, to make more space for better, more regular football. Floodlights would go a long way to helping with this obviously. The SFA have probably thinking about making lights mandatory for a while. With a big influx of clubs seemingly on the horizon, not to mention last year's batch of former Juniors, now would be the time to introduce such a requirement, waiting would only cause even more problems and misunderstanding. Hopefully the powers-that-be are hard at work finding ways to channel monies to support clubs in this significant investment.
  15. Junior football, what is the future?

    Indeed Burnie. Also I was remiss not to mention that this whole shebang started in Fife thanks to Kelty. So seems really unlikely to come unstuck there. As has been said elsewhere, the SFA or someone official somewhere has to come out and say what's going on. The EoS application deadline is little over three months away. The SFA or PWG should state what the current situation is to cut down on misinformation so that clubs thinking of moving at least have some idea of where they stand. Until then I don't think there's really a great deal more anyone can say on the question of what's going to happen to the Juniors.
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