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  1. Any possibility of fitting in some cup games in early July before the 17th.? Undoubtedly there will be a third wave of covid and the more games we can fit in July to November the better. Friendlies could be played in second part of June. Warm up cup games in early July and the main league action starting on the 17th July.

  2. 13 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

    It has been made abundantly clear that it was the SJFA that contacted the HL about the remainder of the east region becoming a tier 6 feeder.

    https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/highland-league/3023221/relegation-play-offs-look-set-to-be-introduced-to-the-highland-league-from-next-season/

    Talks have been ongoing between the Highland League and the Scottish Junior FA to create a formal link between tiers five and six of the Scottish football pyramid for the 2021-22 season.

    From next season the team finishing bottom of the Highland League could find themselves in a play-off against the champions of either the North Super League, the East Super League or the North Caledonian League....

     

    I am well aware of all this. Does the ERJFA become the ML or will they be two separate but related organisations?

  3. Will clubs in the ML be affiliated to both the ERJFA and SJFA?

    I would have thought that the ERJFA would just be another layer of unnecessary football bureaucracy. The ERJFA officials can be shunted over as appropriate over to the ML executive and the ERJFA can be disbanded.

    Have I got it right or are their other factors at play? Alternatively will the ERJFA and the ML be one of the same, similar to the EOSFL / EOSFA? It is a little bit confusing.

    What will be the purpose and function of the ERJFA if the organisation is retained?

  4. 48 minutes ago, Marten said:

    It's too late to switch for the 2021/22 season even if they wanted to. If any Perth-based clubs want to join the ML (I don't know whether or not they do), they can only do so from 2022/23.

    I suppose there is a possibility that Letham could apply if their facilities have prevented them making the cut in the EOSFL. Any views on that one Marten? How vigilant or flexible is the ML likely to be on ground criteria? Will they adopt the EOSFL criteria as the WOSFL have done?

  5. 48 minutes ago, Burnieman said:

    Piecing together info I have, this is potentially how things could look for next season, and how teams could qualify for what levels in 2022/23  (usual caveats apply re LL relegation)

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    It is very helpful to see an example of how the re-structuring can work. There is a hint there that Letham may have some hurdles to cross. I do hope they are accepted and if not they will surely apply to the ML and we will have another club south of the Tay boundary. Also things do not look too promising for Sauchie Community but what do I know!

  6. 20 minutes ago, Burnieman said:

    Edinburgh University and VoL are in the LL and Linlithgow and Penicuik in the EoS.   The Pyramid will take time to level out, and if the new members are too good for the tier that they are in, they'll soon move up.

    I fear for the lower strength sides such as Eyemouth. I want them to survive and by keeping them artificially at a higher level their life support system may be turned off. They need to play at a level where they are not taking a tanking every other week. A quick route to the bottom tier will assist their survival in my view.

  7. 2 minutes ago, Burnieman said:

    Not sure, I'd image the top 2 or 3 would qualify for the new Second division and the rest the Third. I'd like to see the winner qualify for a space in the First.

    Premier-First-Second-Third looks like the format for 22/23.

    But Eyemouth and Tweedmouth would be Tier 8 Second Division and Bathgate and Whitburn etc could end up Tier 9 Third Division. Will not reflect relative strengths.

  8. 1 hour ago, Ginaro said:

    If it's 11 new clubs then a nice even 3x14 conferences (perhaps with a caveat that new clubs can't get promoted to the Premier Division like the WOS are doing) would seem like a better option than 18-16/15-11...

    Agreed. I prefer this scenario but with 12 new clubs providing they meet the entry criteria.

  9. 9 minutes ago, Auld duffer said:
    53 minutes ago, Burnieman said:
    I believe the feeling is existing clubs should get the chance of Premier and First places for 22/23 ahead of new members. Think WoS looking at doing similar.

    It has to be Tier 8 for newly accepted clubs

    Following this scenario what happens to the 12 applicant clubs placed in Tier 8 at the end of the 2021/22 season? Do they remain at Tier 8 for the 2022/23 season and are joined by the 16 or so clubs that finished bottom of the Tier 7 conferences? So the 28 clubs and any new additions form 2 Conferences at Tier 8 for 2023/24? Regionalised conferences would make sense?

  10. 4 minutes ago, Big Dougie said:

    It will be interesting if the LL now relegate VoL to ensure they get back to 16 clubs for next season, which would of course cause an issue for the EoS!

    Or promote Jeanfield to round the number in the LL up to 18.

    There is then then the issue of whether all 12 applicant clubs are accepted to the EOSFL. 

  11. 2 hours ago, Burnieman said:
    2 hours ago, superbigal said:
    Which makes it slightly strange to have dismissed Forfar West End and whoever else applied to the EOS out of hand.

    Why? Whichever way you look at the "dividing line" the three clubs who were rejected were north of it and firmly in ML territory.

    It is a little academic but would the three clubs have got in the EOSFL if they had applied three years ago with the first tranche? What is your gut feeling Burnie?

  12. 58 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

    It may not be relevant in terms of a box ticking exercise but we'll see whether EoS clubs think they should take the wishes of a fellow EoSFA member that can trace a history of using the ground back to 1886 into account when they vote on it. Ultimately the clubs get to decide based on a majority vote.

    If you take the point that you are making to the extreme you would not allow 2 EOS clubs to ground-share under any circumstances. However I do not recall you making any fuss last year when Edinburgh South reached agreement to ground-share with Dalkeith Thistle. I do not understand the hysteria against Bo’ness Athletic and in this case they will be using a 3G pitch and sharing with a higher league LL side.  Excellent facilities are available at Newtown Park and it makes sense to make the best use of them.

  13. 8 minutes ago, Marten said:

    From what I understand, the ERJFA & EOS agreed that the entire DD postcode area will be ML territory. That includes Tayport, but no other Fife clubs.

    Will Scone be be left in an anomalous position in the MFL as they will be within the EOSFL administrative boundary? Not a problem if they are happy in the MFL and the two leagues respect their preference.

  14. 2 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

    On what basis would that not meet the existing criteria?

    Criteria appears to be made up “on the hoof” at the present time. This is not a criticism but simply a reflection to EOSFL officials having to react to situations that are not laid down in the league constitution and standing orders. I suspect that there will be concerns about the precedent set if a SPFL reserve team competes in the 2021/22 EOSFL.

  15. 38 minutes ago, Burnieman said:
    1 hour ago, Marten said:
    That does suggest that all Tayside applicants have either withdrawn their application and/or told to join the ML.

    Tayport withdrew and the other 3 were rejected.

    That appears to leave us with 3 clubs within the EOSFL “administrative area” that will be disappointed. One of those clubs will probably be Edinburgh City Reserves so who are likely to be the other two clubs? Was there a phantom club that did not have a ground? What happened to Cupar Hearts? All will be revealed at the end of the month.

  16. 49 minutes ago, Burnieman said:

    No applications from ML area clubs will be forwarded to the EoS SGM. Rejected.

    Thanks for all your feedback on the various threads. Has the Tay boundary been ratified or redefined or left as a rather nebulous void for further discussion/ division?

  17. 20 minutes ago, parsforlife said:

    Worth noting Edinburgh city had a big fight just for the stadium to be built to license/spfl standards. Something that looked unlikely until about a month ago.  Given that was a struggle the back pitch would have been a massive struggle.

    If Edinburgh city are intending to use medowbank for first team + u20s + a possible reserve side on top of athletics(which seems to be the main priority of Edinburgh leisure)  I don't see much room for Leith. 

    Thanks for the informed feedback.

  18. 1 hour ago, Burnieman said:
    1 hour ago, FairWeatherFan said:
    If it's true. I can only guess Edinburgh City are thrilled at the prospect of pocketing the OF's pennies.

    Also heard that Leith Athletic have been dumped on as far as a return to Meadowbank is concerned. The 3G isn't compliant for EoS.

    That is so annoying. How could such an oversight arise? The club not watching the ball or a cost cutting exercise by the Council? I assume the Leisure Services or whatever they are called at Edinburgh City Council have overseen the scheme.

  19. 8 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

    How about, no.

    Another ground share that the fixture secretary has to consider and a team out of the league getting primary dates. Not much in the way of fans for any 2nd XI and there's the Development League and SPFL Reserve League set up if they care about developing young players.

    If I was a club official and found that my application was being blocked by semantics I would attempt to tweak my application to run the Reserve set-up as a separate (but intrinsically linked) club. There are few examples of this down South and I think there are a few where the second side even enters the FA Vase.

  20. 5 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:

    I'm not convinced it will be a popular enough applicant considering all the discussion of 'Colts' going around.

    At the moment we do not know how the numbers or structure will play out but if a new division can be created of say 13 applicants, the case might be strengthened to accept Edinburgh City Reserves to bring the number up to a nicely rounded 14, particularly as they would tick all the boxes for facilities, floodlights etc.

  21. 2 minutes ago, Burnieman said:

    The monthly board meeting is tonight, and the SGM to vote on new applicants is the end of this month. Details of the applications will be circulated before that.

    Heard that Edinburgh City had applied, if true then I'm assuming their reserve side? Their U20's already play in the Development League.

    What will be the view on Edinburgh City entering a reserve side? The club is already a prestigious long-standing EoSFA member. Assume they will play at the totally revamped Meadowbank. An impressive new venue. Edinburgh City Reserves could be the forerunner of future applications for SPFL reserve sides. I assume that Hibernian have also retained their membership of the EoSFA.

    Lots of related issues and will be interesting to see how the Edinburgh City application is handled by the EOSFL.

  22. 3 hours ago, Burnieman said:

    For the benefit of everyone, Bigbro19 is a well known troll from around 2-3 years ago and was banned from here 60-70 times over that period, he is well known to @Div and @Tynierose

    First he went for some guy from Glenrothes in a pretty vitriolic way, then he went for Gogsy/Kelty, and then anyone associated with wanting clubs to join the Pyramid, principally me.

    I've kept well away of his deranged rantings as he frankly has a screw loose. His aim is to derail the forum and make it all about him, don't let him succeed until the mods get round to binning him.  He's successfully derailed 3 threads already, just report his posts and then pop him on ignore. As you can see, he hates being ignored.

    Let's get back to normality.

    Thanks for the update. It is difficult to understand what is going on when out of the blue informative threads become infected by meaningless rubbish.

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