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  1. Junior football, what is the future?

    Assuming the Juniors are part of the Pyramid for 2019/20 what will be the position if Champions of the SJFA West Region Premiership refuse to participate in the Play-offs or decline promotion to the Lowland League? Will promotion be made mandatory by the SFA? Will this still be the case if a Lowland League 2 is being created as mooted on the other thread? If the leading Junior clubs do not make their move to join the Lowland League over the next few months they could find themselves at Tier 7 in the pyramid if Lowland League 2 (Tier 6) becomes a reality. More to read at: https://www.pieandbovril.com/forum/index.php?/topic/258689-pyramid-20192020/&page=24
  2. Pyramid 2019/2020

    If Dalkeith and Blackburn (with their licensing applications being lined up) decide to make headway as early applicants for LL2, will the 2 clubs yet again lead another stampede? This time corralling the top clubs in the West as well as the East? If the original intention is to form say a 16 team LL2 and some 40 applications are generated won't there be a very strong temptation by the Lowland League management committee to go the "whole hog" for LL2 East and LL2 West? The "Pyramid tale" is absolutely fascinating and who at this moment knows how the 2019/20 season is going to unfold? It may just be fiction at the moment but there is beginning to appear strong overtones of reality.
  3. Pyramid 2019/2020

    Hurdles to overcome may also now include planning for LL2, what it will look like, criteria, and whether it will be in place for next season or the season after. If I recall correctly LL was set up in a very very short timescale. Why not LL2 over a similar period? What would be the main hurdles in setting up LL2 for next season? Other than TJ? Would there be any benefit in waiting for EOL Prem for 2019/20 and then transferring the WR Prem and EOL Prem to a new LL2W & LL2E for 2020/21? Or would it represent too many changes/instability over a short period.
  4. Pyramid 2019/2020

    The whole process in my view appears to lack firm leadership , innovation and tact from the SFA. Personally I think that the Pyramid issue is too fraught with entrenched views to be delivered purely on the basis of consensus at the PWG. The Juniors are the ones seeking entry to the Pyramid and obviously they are the ones that will now need to "bend" to be accommodated. Not the EoSL. The SFA are heading "up **** creek" to think otherwise.
  5. Junior football, what is the future?

    The recent record of Glasgow University in the Scottish Cup does not help their case. http://www.fchd.info/GLASGUNI.HTM
  6. Junior football, what is the future?

    Can you tell us what the position is re Glasgow University and the pyramid Robert? Do they intend to join the WR, SoS or remain as they are? Would the University be prepared to start at Tier 9 in the WR?
  7. Junior football, what is the future?

    Thanks for the feedback. Was there any discussion on changes to the Licensing requirements and the implications for clubs like Dundonald Bluebell entering the Scottish Cup next season with Coldstream, Whitehill Welfare etc.? https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish-cup/fixtures-results/ Will existing clubs like Coldstream have to meet tougher requirements? Will current Junior Clubs affiliated to the WRJFA and ERJFA be able to or encouraged to apply for a Licence?
  8. EoS Conference A chat 2018-19

    Hope that Tweedmouth can overcome their current difficulties under the new manager. After this coming Tuesday's fixture away to Penicuik the fixture list begins to look much kinder.
  9. Junior football, what is the future?

    Has TJ informed Junior Clubs when the next meeting of the Pyramid Working Group will be held? I would have thought that it would have been of much greater importance than "Player looking for club". http://www.scottishjuniorfa.com/sjfa/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=1747 One of most important developments - the SFA Pyramid - in the history of Junior football and not a whisper on the Scottish Junior Football Association website.
  10. Junior football, what is the future?

    SENIOR DEBUT FOR JEANFIELD Manager Ross Gunnion had this to say when asked about the new season and the future ahead for the club. "Here we are at the beginning of another season, albeit it’s not just any other season!" "In my 7 years as player and manager at this club I’ve not encountered a pre-season that has held this much excitement and optimism." "We’ve called time on 90 years in the Junior game and embarked on a new chapter in the clubs history, one which now sees Jeanfield Swifts enter the Senior ranks in the East of Scotland League." "Pre-Season has went well, even if it’s been a little rushed given the earlier than usual season opener for us. We’ve welcomed 5 new signings to the team and all have settled in well." "But now the real action starts and I’m excited to see how our existing players have improved and how our new additions will perform against a top class team in Bo’ness Utd." "As a start it couldn’t have been much tougher, but that’s a mark of where we are as a club. We have worked incredibly hard to get ourselves to a level where we are on an equal footing with teams like Bo’ness, Linlithgow Rose and Bonnyrigg Rose. We forged ourselves into the best Junior Club in Perthshire and we are now faced with new challenges and promotion to the Lowland League as the target for the club." "We’ll visit old friends and also travel to new grounds and form new relationships." "I for one am incredibly excited by what this season and the future will hold. We hope all our fans and supporters will feel the same and we’ll be doing our utmost to repay that support with results." Updated 21:54 - 27 Jul 2018 by Scott Cummings All the best to Jeanfield Swifts in their move over from Junior football. Clubs in the West Region will be watching their development with interest.
  11. Junior football, what is the future?

    "Junior football, what is the future?" is a brilliant thread and one of my favourite memories will always be watching the dominoes fall one by one while on holiday in Cuba back in May. On the downside is that it is almost impossible to trawl back through 558 pages to identify a particular issue highlighted during the informed discussion. I started the "WoSFL Pyramid Deadline - SJFA or Club led" thread to cover the position in the West Region but I agree with BM that at times the new thread covered other issues already mentioned in the main thread. As the the OP for the WoSFL thread I can confirm that I did not delete the thread earlier in the week - nor did I receive any explanation for the deletion. My own view is that we were perhaps moving into territory that made the SJFA Executive feel highly uncomfortable with and that "noises" or "pressures" were made to P&B. However we all know that the issues raised will not be going away. Here we all are back on the main thread. NB: Is it possible BM to create a brief index at the beginning of the main thread? The way things are going it will not be so far away that we have 1,000 pages to trawl through.
  12. Junior football, what is the future?

    Just in case anyone forgets the " WoSFL Pyramid Deadline - SJFA or Club led? " thread -28 pages and 24,000 views before destruction. I for one have always believed in free speech and did not expect the sort of censorship we have just seen. However, killing an informative thread will not halt Pyramid progess. Does anyone know the deadline that is being set for the formation of the West Region Tier 6 Pyramid? Q1. Have the clubs given the the SJFA a clear official mandate (instructions of desired outcome) regarding the SJFA as whole becoming part of the Pyramid? And the West Region in particular? Response: A clear mandate has not been provided or explicit requirements for the West Region. Q2. Is the SJFA Management properly committed to the Pyramid or will we just see further evasive delays? Response: We will see over the coming months whether SJFA will achieve a successful outcome from their dialogue with the SFA/PWG to join the Pyramid. Q3. Was a realistice deadline set at the SJFA West Region Annual General Meeting which will enable the West Region to retain control of the emerging WoSFL? Or will we lose control? Response: It has been confirmed that whilst the West AGM dealt with their re-organisation, there was no discussion on the Pyramid or the likelihood of a WoSFL being set-up over the next 12 months. Q4. Can the SJFA Management (TJ) be trusted to broker a good deal for the West Region with the Pyramid Working Group / SFA within an agreed timescale? Or should the West Region take over negotiations? Response: Time will tell. I would suggest that a firm deadline is set for 31st January 2019 for the formation of a West Region controlled WoSFL which will enable all WR clubs to transfer over to the Pyramid for 2019/20. If this deadline cannot be met by the above date then a Club led initiative should begin (in earnest) on 1st February 2019 with the support of the EoSFL.
  13. Junior football, what is the future?

    Does anyone know why the thread - WoSFL Pyramid Deadline - SJFA or Club led? - was destroyed?
  14. EoS Conference A chat 2018-19

    The opening league fixtures in August and September: Tuesday 14th August 2018 Central Taxis East of Scotland League, Conference A MD:1 14-Aug-2018 Musselburgh Athletic v Leith Athletic 7pm 14-Aug-2018 Newtongrange Star v Oakley United 7:30pm 14-Aug-2018 Peebles Rovers v Penicuik Athletic 7pm Wednesday 15th August 2018 Central Taxis East of Scotland League, Conference A MD:1 15-Aug-2018 Coldstream v Arniston Rangers 7pm* 15-Aug-2018 Tweedmouth Rangers v Dunbar United 7pm * unless Coldstream drawn to play in Scottish Cup First Preliminary Round, and have a replay on Saturday 18th August Saturday 18th August 2018 Central Taxis East of Scotland League, Conference A MD:5 18-Aug-2018 Arniston Rangers v Peebles Rovers 2:30pm Saturday 25th August 2018 Central Taxis East of Scotland League, Conference A MD:2 25-Aug-2018 Dunbar United v Peebles Rovers 2:30pm 25-Aug-2018 Easthouses Lily v Oakley United 2:30pm 25-Aug-2018 Hawick Royal Albert v Newtongrange Star 2:30pm 25-Aug-2018 Hill of Beath Hawthorn v Tweedmouth Rangers 2:30pm 25-Aug-2018 Leith Athletic v Arniston Rangers 3pm 25-Aug-2018 Penicuik Athletic v Coldstream 2:30pm Saturday 8th September 2018 Central Taxis East of Scotland League, Conference A MD:3 08-Sep-2018 Arniston Rangers v Penicuik Athletic 2:30pm 08-Sep-2018 Coldstream v Tweedmouth Rangers 2:30pm 08-Sep-2018 Musselburgh Athletic v Dunbar United 2:30pm 08-Sep-2018 Newtongrange Star v Easthouses Lily 2:30pm 08-Sep-2018 Oakley United v Hill of Beath Hawthorn 2:30pm 08-Sep-2018 Peebles Rovers v Hawick Royal Albert 2:30pm idle Leith Athletic Saturday 29th September 2018 Central Taxis East of Scotland League, Conference A MD:4 29-Sep-2018 Dunbar United v Hill of Beath Hawthorn 2:30pm 29-Sep-2018 Easthouses Lily v Coldstream 2:30pm 29-Sep-2018 Hawick Royal Albert v Arniston Rangers 2:30pm 29-Sep-2018 Oakley United v Musselburgh Athletic 2:30pm 29-Sep-2018 Penicuik Athletic v Leith Athletic 2:30pm Sunday 30th September 2018 Central Taxis East of Scotland League, Conference A MD:4 30-Sep-2018 Tweedmouth Rangers v Newtongrange Star 2:30pm http://www.eosfl.com/downloads/eosfl/The-East-of-Scotland-Football-League-Season-2018-19-Fixture-List.pdf
  15. League fixtures 2018/19?

    More details on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/EastOfScotlandFA/