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To be fair, although Vale of Leven refers to the whole area, locally, when people say "the vale" it almost always means Alexandria, or even Alexandria town centre. If you say to someone you'll meet them in the Vale it means alexandria. People rarely say the Vale of leven even to refer to the whole area or where they're from. It will be Bonhill, Balloch, Renton, alexandria/the Vale etc.

Having been browsing this topic and the junior thread, its been extremely hard not to bite at certain posters on that other thread, lol. Some very childish people indeed. Having closely watched this last couple of months news regarding the pyramid etc I can only say IMO this will be a vital step in the direction of having a fully integrated pyramid. Being someone who casually watches my two local junior teams when I can, it disappointed me when the lowland league was set up and juniors chose not to get involved, however both are now interested and seeing integrated, non league football in my area is something I can look forward to in the near future. I've always liked the thought that down south, theoretically, a club can go from the very bottom to the very top, and while this may not be of appeal to all clubs, the principle is a fair one, and could only drive forward ambition, and hopefully by consequence create a better quality non league in Scotland. I'm sorry to say, but the junior grade is dying. (Cue resentment from those in places such as Armadale) I know very few junior fans, or even people who have any interest in the juniors my age, and I can't exactly see future generations keeping an interest. The support is generally of an older demographic, the grounds are often falling apart, and while the standard is generally ok, very few clubs seem to focus on community/youth/grassroots development to a great extent, with most new players in the 'grade' either ex-seniors or jumping up from ams. Thanks to clubs such as Kelty leading the way, and more and more clubs moving to the east, the new non league, within time, can hopefully exist all under the auspices of the SFA, with regional bodies underneath (ie EoSFA, with west and north equivalents). An integrated non league is exactly what scotland needs, and I believe within a few years, with a good structure in place and clubs finding their right level, this will lead to better management, youth setups, quality and perhaps even crowds in the lower echelons of the pyramid. I for one, and most likely others, look forward to seeing a proper pyramid setup in Scotland, and can only look forward to seeing my local team potentially vying for a place in the Lowland League or even SPFL2.