VictorOnopko

Fern: Time for a quick post-walk nap.

The complaints will go straight to a call centre in Belfast run by Capita (who will auto-generate a nonsense reply) and no-one at BBC Scotland will be aware of them in the slightest. "Kenny Mac" and his producers will continue to do as they please, which is bad news for any non-arsecheek fans hoping for full coverage of Scottish football.

So you wanted a demonstration and were disappointed that it didn't happen? So you now don't want a demonstration, although you did before? Whatever. Join or don't join. You could always tell us all what should be in this "action plan". I am just a paying member of TJF, not directly involved in any way - but I know they are open to feedback and I imagine (unlike the Trust) they will respond to messages and suggestions if you want to engage with them rather than making very vague criticisms here. You were also replying to my post, so understandably I thought your comment that "this type of post" puts you off joining TJF was about what I said, not Ad Lib.

Without wishing to drag out this discussion - I didn't ask you whether you had joined TJF or planned to (and I'm quite surprised that a post from a random stranger on P&B would sway you either way on doing so). I asked you what you thought they had done wrong and your answer was that they should have organised a protest at a televised match. (I remember in the past you also complained that they didn't put out a message mourning QE2). IMO, they are not there to virtue signal or to organise protests which the board would immediately use to claim they are undermining the club. They should focus on continuing to demonstrate that they are competent, transparent, have an in-depth understanding of the club and how real fan ownership would work, and be ready to take up the shareholding if/when the board realises that what they have done is untenable. Which is exactly what TJF are doing.

No one around here who is against what has happened is "cocky" about the current state of play, but it's quite obvious that TJF are honest and transparent communicators, in sharp contrast to the mendacious board and their nodding-dog Jags Trust pals. The reason "the strategy hasn't yet got the desired result" is quite simply that the chairman and her acolytes decided not to transfer the club to true fan ownership as they had previously promised, but to construct a sham transfer and stay in power instead. The whole thing was done in very bad faith, and involved refusing to share the club's books. They were probably banking on general indifference among the wider support to get away with it (and timed the transfer for after they had banked the season ticket money, just to be on the safe side, having turned their noses up at the direct financial contribution of nearly 1000 TJF members). It's hard to see why - as you seem to think going by this and past posts - the fault somehow lies with TJF and not Low and her pals. What could/should TJF have done differently, in your view?

14:10

Having been rattled in this discussion which you started by slagging off St Mirren for drawing 2-2 in the top tier - only for it to be pointed out that your team were last in the top tier in 1988 when you conceded 100 (one hundred) goals - I think we can all agree that you have recovered and routed your opponent over his poor use of a hyphen.

I mean, he's recently been sacked and knows the Scottish league inside out. All Rangers would need to do would be to redesign their badge to include a shamrock. It would also be a gesture of peace and bring an end to sectarianism IMO.

He also stated at half time that the score was Partick Thistle 1 Dundee 1 then shouted "no it isn't" before being cut off by another report.

Chick on the radio: Half time from Firhill, it's Partick Thistle 1, Dundee 1.

Apparently they were also being bankrolled by a supposed pot of gold which it turned out didn't exist.

"F*ck Morton" - indeed. Anyway - quite an extraordinary turnaround since we pumped the Mortonians a few weeks ago. Your team now look like genuine promotion contenders and Imrie appears to be working a near-miracle at Cappielow, presumably on a miniscule budget. Extremely impressive. We are absolutely hopeless all of a sudden (a few injuries, even to key players, should not have ruined our form as much as they have) and we will soon be tumbling right down the table. It's a funny old game.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63289885 I've reloaded this article a couple of times but despite opening with "A glance at the European tables containing Celtic, Rangers and Hearts makes for grim reading" it seems to have included the Old Firm's group tables, but not bothered to show Hearts's. If I had been writing it, I would also have mentioned that Celtic need to win their game to avoid sole ownership of the record consecutive home CL defeats, and that Rangers are another -2 GD away from securing the record of worst Champions League compaign by any club ever.

Wait, I thought we were "Partick Thistle Family Club"? Surely that wasn't just cringey PR guff... but, how does it square with parents being enraged by PTFC dissolving a team with immediate effect and sending children home in tears, and the board / Low allegedly lying about what funding was provided, and by claiming that they offered to continue it for the rest of the season? It's all very confusing.

It appears to be a hat with "F*ck Morton" written on it. Odd.

First mention of going round the grounds - 14:51. Just before that from MacIntyre - "news from the manager... I mean, the Rangers manager..."

Tom English's prose style really is garbled: "The reality of life in the Champions League has been hard on Rangers, existing as they are in the group of certain death for a club of their lightweight financial muscle. Underdogs can occasionally roar, though. The problem is that the big dogs roar louder, more often than not." Dogs don't roar, though. They bark or howl. Big cats roar. Maybe head back to primary school and learn about the animal kingdom, Tom?

Celtic the other night - secured the joint all-time record for consecutive home defeats in the Champions League. here's hoping they add one more. Rangers* - absolutely humiliated at home,and on the brink of officially becoming the worst team ever to have played in the Champions League. Away to Napoli looms... What a week it's been for the Old Firm.

Well, the BBC's match report includes this stat: Celtic have lost each of their last seven home Champions League games, equalling the longest run of home defeats by a team in the competition, previously set by Monaco between May 2017 and December 2018 (7). They are officially record-equalling losers. Lovely stuff.

Not good news for us though!

Don't mistake the BBC's craven wheedling and sucking up as a sign that Rangers were "right". You also now have MacIntyre, a diehard Rangers fan, ruining OAM every Saturday with wall to wall Ibrox chat and arguments about "Gio"'s tactics in Europe and team selection while there are dozens of games happening across Scotland - so you are right, there is "a lack of balance" when it comes to your club - just in totally the opposite way from what you are arguing. I see you have quietly dropped your claim that the BBC "stopped covering" Rangers games during Rangers' huge multi-year huff - a sensible move given it was 100% bollocks.

No - the BBC never stopped covering Rangers games. They covered every them in detail - build up and frequent "live updates" at home, and loads of live commentaries away. They did this despite a tantrum on Rangers' part which went on for years, when they could just have given HT and FT scores. That your club's board and fans have adopted your rivals' traditional policy of paranoid, conspiracy-theorist whinging over the past ten years is undeniable.

The hardest seeds and the goal-yeti. Just as well we have the playoff spot in our back pocket as we're almost certainly going to need it.

"Kenny Mac" and his pals discussing Rangers' tactics in Europe and what went wrong against Liverpool instead of reporting from the games around Scotland on OAM. Awful listening.