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  1. Stevie May might move from Aberdeen to St Johnstone. Hope he does well.
  2. We need to be united in Scotland, and get behind all our teams. We do no need to be a divided nation.
  3. We need to put the big teams, under 21 year old sides in the lower divisions. This change is about helping the international side, not about helping the big sides. By giving young players early competitive experience, we will develop more players good enough for the international side. So we will be able to qualify for and be dark horses for major tournaments. France, Germany, Croatia, Spain, and the Netherlands play their big sides b teams in the lower divisions to help develop more young players. Look at how well Croatia did to reach the World Cup Final. I f we allowed big sides to play reserve teams in the lower leagues, then maybe we could develop more great players like the Croatian league does. Scotland should copy this, to maximize the potential of young Scottish players. Critics will say, it is unfair take the places of other teams in the league. But I think the priority is the national teams, and the performance of our club sides in European competitions. I think it is idiotic and unpatriotic, to place two or three part time sides league positions, above maximizing the potential of our young Scottish players. Would you rather a party time team 3 or four places higher in the league or Scotland reach a major tournament? That is dumb and unpatriotic. I like part time Scottish sides, they had to the richness and history of Scottish Sport. I support the part time teams being in the Scottish league, as they can develop players too and give match experience to young players by playing their big sides under 21 sides. But the priority is the national side. What gets on my nerves is people who say that we should only have 20 teams in the Scottish League, because they do not want loads of part time teams, in the league yet when you put forward the idea of utilising the part time teams in the lower leagues to give games against under 21 sides, suddenly that same person claims we are insulting the smaller sides by playing them. When for a decade Scotland had a c divisions where big sides b teams played against part time sides, and when Also we need the top clubs to be ruthless in developing young players and signing top talent from abroad so our top teams can do well in Europe and make Scotland proud, so we need to have a system where top teams have a gateway for young players to develop in competitive games, maximizing the potential of our young players. The development of the national team and our clubs sides performances in Europe is the priority.
  4. Unfair TV rights for Scottish Football? Is there a conspiracy by some British TV companies to not give the SPFL (Scottish League), the TV revenues they deserves? The real reason other Europem are richer than Scotland in finances, is because, Scotland does not get the TV revenues we should be given. Other leagues with lower viewing figures get far more money, even taking into account populations. That is why Scottish clubs cannot compete with other leagues in finances. We get the highest attendances in the world per capita for our population. We love football in Scotland. If Scottish football got the TV money it deserves it would make a small difference to Cetic and Rangers. But massive changes for the likes of Aberdeen, Hearts and Hibs, and astronomical differences for the likes of Ross County, Partick Thistle, Dundee and Motherwell. And for the clubs like Inverness CT, Morton FC and Falkirk when they get back into the premier, it would also be massive. Evidence of TV rights for Scotland In 2015 an article suggested that for the previous season 11.3 million people viewed Scottish football matches on TV. That was before Glasgow Rangers got back into the Premier division. So viewing figures will be higher now. I am looking at British and Irish viewing figures only. The March 2018 Old Firm derby got over half a million viewers. Although I have to admit viewing figures for Old Firm derbies have been down to a quarter of a million., and as high as 3 quarters of a million viewers in recent years. I accept the figures do fluctuate. A Heart of Midlothian - Hibernian derby this season got 50,000 viewers, yet another Heart of Midlothian V Hibernian derby at Tynecastle this season also brought in 127,000 viewers. Recentely a game betweeen Cetlic and Aberdeen got 127.000 viewers. The ratings average for the two recent Aberdeen v Rangers games were 140,000 each. It is safe to say that you can conclude that viewing figures for the Scottish Premier are over 100,000. All in all, it is reasonable to say Scottish league matches get an average of over 100,000 per televised game. A recent TV deal gave Scottish football a five year 80 million pound deal. And the current deal is 18.5 million pounds a year. Comparison against EPL In October 2017, the English Premier was seeing Sky draw approximately 819,000 viewers per match. With 692,000 for BT sport. So not even 10 times the typical viewing audiences for typical Scottish televised matches. Yet the EPL gets 1.71 billion a year. That is according to an article in the Daily Record last year. I read SKY pays the English premier 10 million pounds per game, at a rate of 4.2 billion pounds for 126 games from 2016-17 to 2018-19. With BT paying around 900 million. So lets think about this. English football which gets around 6 - 8 times the viewing figures of Scottish football gets, yet gets 91 times the TV deal in finances. How on earth does that make any sense? Infact the EPL get more money for two games, than the entire Scottish Legue season gets in one year. How? Lets just compare these numbers 1,700,000,000 pounds a year for viewing figures of between 600,000 and 900,000 for the English Premier. . 18,500,000 pounds for viewing figures at a conservative estimate of 100,000 per match for the Scottish league. Even if you claimed that English matches get 900,000 viewers a game and Scottish football gets 100,000, then Scottish football should get one ninth of what English football gets. Even if you were to be even more charitable, to England, and say we should get a tenth, we would be making 170,000,000 a year. OK there is a problem because Scotland does not have as many games to show. But surely it is easy to see Scottish football getiing 130 million a year, with 10 million a year given up for parachute payments, with the rest of 120,000,000 to be shared equally among the 12 premier clubs, that is 10 million a year for each club. Against other leagues An article in the Scottish Daily Record, earlier this season, suggested other tv revenues fall in line with ; 46 million pounds a year for the Danish League; 35 million pounds a year for Norway’s league; 110 million pounds a year for Portugal’s league; 60 million pounds a year for Belgium’s league; and a staggering 90 million a year for the Netherlands. This proves that Scotland a far more football obbsessed country with markets open to England, Ireland and Wales is doing terrible at TV rights. Against English Rugby Union A similar sized market would be the English rugby union league. My research has found, the English rugby union league is getting around 38 million pounds a year until 2021, on BT sport. Now wait for this killer fact. I read an article that said that a few years ago the combined season TV audience was 7.88 million watching Aviva Premiership Rugby on BT sport, that is more than 3 million less than the Scottish Premier got when Glasgow Rangers were not even in the Scottish Premier. The largest viewing figure for a rugby union game that season was 276,000 people tuning in to watch London Wasps (Now Coventry Wasps), against Leicester Tigers. How the heck does it make sense for a league with 3 million less viewers to gets nearly double the TV rights that Scottish League gets, And that is not taking into account, Glasgow Rangers are back in the premier. I love rugby union. it is my second favourite sport. And I hope Glasgow and Edinburgh do well in the Pro14. Plus I totally respect English rugby union as a great system. But it does not deserve to be getting nearly double the tv rights for less viewers. What is going on? Against English Rugby League In 2014 the English Rugby League earned 182,000,000 for a five year deal for international and league games. The Super League clubs got 146,000,000 a year that is 29,2 million a year for the league. According to one article I read super league viewing figures are under 70,000 per game. I like rugby league and Scotland, Ireland and Wales have all had good runs in the World Cup in recent years. It is a cool sport. But why the heck is rugby league getting more money than the Scottish premier league when it gets lower viewing figures? It makes no sense. The average Super league attendance in 2014 was around 8,000. Celtic and Rangers get crowds in the many tenss of thousands. Why are they getting more TV money? What would more TV money do to Scottish Football? If Scottish football got the TV rights they deserve it would transform Scottish football The current domestic league TV money for Celtic and Rangers is a small fraction of their income. But a larger proportion of the incomes for clubs like Ross County, and St Johnstone. Celtic and Rangers are lucky to get 2 million pounds from the league, out of a turnover of each club, in the tens of millions. Even if Scottish football got the TV revenue it deserves shared equally among the premier clubs that would equal maybe at most a sixth of Cetlic’s turnover. But for clubs like Partick Thistle, and Ross County, an extra 10 million would transform them from a small professional club to a club that could purchase players for multi million deals. I am certian that with that sort of finances of shared equally among the premier, at 10 million pounds a year for each club, then the premier would become more competitive with more clubs challenging for the title. An extra 10 or so million for Aberdeen or Hibernian would transform them to be able to buy players for multi million pound deals from the lower leagues of England or of foreign nations. This would enable them to compete for the title. and get further in Europe which would generate more finances. Is the Scottish League Attractive? Yes, Yes, Yes. You may look at the Scottish League and say well I don’t find it attractive for whatever reason. Maybe you think it is uncompetitive, foreign, boring, not skillful enough. Whatever! But that is immaterial. The fact is it gets perfectly good television viewing figures for it’s population. So there are people who want to watch it, whether you like it or not. IT DOES NOT GET THE TV REVENUE PROPORTIONATE TO IT’S VIEWING FIGURES. I don’t like soap operas, or those new reality TV shows. I am not very interested in the Dutch League or the Turkish league but that does not stop tens of millions of pounds being spent on them, by their national broadcasters. The fact is there is a market for those leagues and shows. Whether you like it or not, Scottsh football is attractive to viewing figures that are atleast 10% of what England’s top league gets. You can’t argue with that, no matter your opinion of the league. And considering Scotland gets the highest attendances per capita of any league in the World, that prooves we are more passionate about football than anyone else, full stop. So how the heck are we getting such low TV rights? How? Tell me? I’m waiting for an answer. I am certain some troll will give them pointless reponse and explain that Scottish football does not deserve more money becaise it is rubbish, or some comment. But that is not relevant. TV money should be given to leagues, out according to ratings, and the market. Not on the basis of your biased view of each league. I could say the English Premier is rubbish and that therefore the English Premier should only get 2 pounds. That is not relevant. The conspiracy theory A commentator for one of the British TV companies has openly said that while he was working for a major broadcaster he was told that as punishment for Scottish football refusing a new TV deal with the said broadcaster, that he must ignore Scottish football on his shows as if it does not exist. To punish Scottish football for wanting a better deal. That makes no commercial sense for that TV broadcaster to punish Scottish football. It was a purely punitive vindictive punishment against Scottish football, for reasons that no fair minded person could justify. That makes me wonder if other broadcasters take the same attitude to Scottish football, of wanting to treat Scotland as an enemy foreign nation that should not be supported, in the same way English sports leagues are. Could that be the reason Scottish football does not get the TV rights it deserves? Is it anti Scottish nationalism deliberately trying to make Scottish football smaller. You get that attitude when everything that happens in English football is spun in a positive way, by the media. While everything that happens in Scottish football is spun in a negative way, by the British media. For instance when Man City win the English league at a canter we are told what a marvelous honour it is to watch that great Man City team of 2018. Showing that Man City are the best team in the world, in the best league in the world. And that everyone should be proud to watch such genius. Meanwhile when Glasgow Celtic go and win the Scottish league at a canter we are told that this is boring, tedious ,monotonous and shows Scottish football is rubbish and that Celtic would be better of joining the English league and playing in the conference. Even though they get crowds of 60,000, that is more than Man City. One reporter even suggested that even Celtic fans should not bother watching their club, because apparenlty winning a league, with attractive football, is really boring if you do it too much. Another example of media bias. A Scottish club loses in Europe, so that proves that Scottish football is rubbish and every Scottish club should leave the Scottish league and join the English non league system. An English club loses in Europe, and the attitude of the media is don’t worry they’ll be back next year. SCOTTISH FOOTBALL DESERVES, AND NEEDS A BETTER TV DEAL. Up with Scottish Soccer. -
  5. Selected pick of sides conquered by Scottish sides I took about 4 hours to do this. But I think the effort was worth it. Here is a list of some of the great club sides that Scottish clubs have defeated in competitive games. I have selected a pick of the sides, they have also defeated other teams I have not mentioned. I am including a win in any individual game, including after extra time. So they may have been knocked out over two legs by the same team. I do not include penalty shoot outs, or away goals rule victories, when both games were drawn. This is purely a list of individual game wins by Scottish sides. The order shows the name of a European team with a list of Scottish teams who have beaten them in Europe. KR Reykavic by Aberdenn, Standard Liege by Aberdeen, Dundee United, Hearts, Glasgow Rangers Real Zaragoza by Aberdeen, Dunfermline, Glasgow Rangers Honved by Aberdeen Celta Vigo by Aberdeen and Celtic Fortuna Dusseldorf by Aberdeen, Glasgow Rangers Austria Vienna by Aberdeen Ipswich Town by Aberdeen SV Hamburg by Aberdeen, Hibs, St Johnstone Sion by Aberdeen Lech Pozan by Aberdeen Bayern Munich by Aberdeen, Hearts, Glasgow Rangers Real Madrid by Aberdeen, Celtic Servette by Aberdeen Bohemians by Aberdeen, Dundee United, Glasgow Rangers Feyenoord by Aberdeen Rapid Vienna by Aberdeen, Glasgow Rangers Barry Town by Aberdeen FC Copenhagen by Aberdeen, Celtic, and Glasgow Rangers Groningen by Aberdeen Basel by Celtic, Hearts Dynamo Zagreb by Celtic, Dunfermline, Hearts Slovan Bratislava by Celtic Leixoes by Celtic Go Ahead by Celtic Dynamo Kiev by Celtic, Glasgow Rangers Liverpool by Celtic, Hibs Nantes by Celtic Inter Milan by Celtic, Glasgow Rangers St Etienne by Celtic, Glasgow Rangers Red Star Belgrade by Celtic, Glasgow Rangers Benfica by Celtic Fiorentina by Celtic Leeds United by Celtic, Glasgow Rangers Waterford by Celtic Rosenborg by Celtic, Hibs, St Johnstone Boavista by Celtic, Glasgow Rangers Dundalk by Celtic, Glasgow Rangers Juventus by Celtic, Dundee United, Glasgow Rangers Ajax by Celtic Real Sociedad by Celtic Sporting Lisbon by Celtic, Dundee, Hibs, Glasgow Rangers Shamrock Rovers by Celtic B Dortmund by Celtic, Glasgow Rangers P Belgrade by Celtic Inter Cable Telecom by Celtic St Patricks by Celtic Cwmbran Town by Celtic Hapoel Tel Aviv by Celtic, Glasgow Rangers Porto by Celtic, Hibs, Glasgow Rangers Valencia by Celtic, Hibs Blackburn by Celtic Vfb Stuttgart by Celtic, Hearts, Glasgow Rangers, Dunfermline FBK Kaunas by Celtic Lyon by Celtic, Glasgow Rangers Barcelona by Celtic, Dundee United, Hibs Shakhtar Donetsk by Celtic Artmedia Bratislava by Celtic Manchester United by Celtic Villareal by Celtic Dinamo Moscow by Celtic Braga by Celtic, Hearts Utrecht by Celtic Rennes by Celtic HJK Helsinki by Celtic Helsingborg by Celtic Spartak Moscow by Celtic Cliftonville by Celtic Shakter Karagandy by Celtic AC Milan by Celtic, Dundee Anderlecht by Celtic, Dundee, Dunfermline, Glasgow Rangers FC Cologne by Dundee, Glasgow Rangers DWS Amstedam by Dundee Grasshoppers by Dundee United, Glasgow Rangers Sparta Prague by Dundee United, St Mirren Slask Wroclaw by Dundee United Monaco by Dundee United, Glasgow Rangers B Monchengladbach by Dundee United, Glasgow Rangers PSV Eindhoven by Dundee United, Glasgow Rangers Viking Stavanger by Dundee United Werder Bremen by Dundee United, Glasgow Rangers Lens by Dundee United Hadjuk Split by Dundee United Coleraine by Dundee United Glentoran by Dundee United, Glasgow Rangers Antwerp by Dundee United, Kilmarnock St Patricks Athletic by Dunfermline, Hearts, Everton by Dunfermline Ujpest Dozsa by Dunfermline Athletico Bilbao by Dunfermline, Glasgow Rangers West Brom by Dunfermline Bordeaux by Dunfermline, Hearts Bologna by Hearts Atletico Madrid by Hearts Rot-Weiss Essen by Hibs DOS Utrecht by Hibs Napoli by Hibs Malmo FF by Hibs, and Celtic Sochaux by Hibs Strasbourg by Hibs AEK Athens by Hibs Eintracht Frankfurt by Kilmarnock Shelbourne by Kilmarnock, Glasgow Rangers Glenavon by Kilmarnock Strum Graz by Livingston, Glasgow Rangers Katowice by Motherwell, Glasgow Rangers Llanelli by Motherwell Glentoran by Motherwell Nice by Glasgow Rangers Sparta Rotterdam by Glasgow Rangers Ferencvaros by Glasgow Rangers Wolverhampton Wanderers by Glasgow Rangers Seville by Glasgow Rangers Dynamo Dresden by Glasgow Rangers Steua Bucharest by Glasgow Rangers Rennes by Glasgow Rangers Torino by Glasgow Rangers Dynamo Moscow by Glasgow Rangers Ankaragucu by Glasgow Rangers Osasuna by Glasgow Rangers Slavia Prague by Glasgow Rangers CSKA Moscow by Glasgow Rangers FC Bruges by Glasgow Rangers Vladikavkaz by Glasgow Rangers PAOK Salonika by Glasgow Rangers Beitar Jerusalem by Glasgow Rangers Parma by Glasgow Rangers Zalgris Kaunas by Glasgow Rangers Kaiserslauten by Glasgow Rangers MK Maribor by Glasgow Rangers Molde by Glasgow Rangers Bursaspor by Glasgow Rangers Rijeka by Aberdeen Shkëndijan by Aberdeen Fola Esch by Aberdeen Ventspils by Aberdeen Alashkert by St Johnstone Lincoln Red Imps by Celtic Infonet Tallinn by Hearts Stjarnan by Celtic Qarabag by Celtic Astana by Celtic Brondby by Hibs, Dundee United Linfield by Celtic Also in the English FA Cup Crewe Alexandria by Queens Park Nottingham Forest by Queens Park Notts County by Queens Park Manchester by Queens Park Oswerstry by Queens Park Aston Villa by Queens Park Old Westminsters by Queens Park, Glasgow Rangers Blackburn Olympic by Queens Park, Partick Thistle Blackburn Park Road by Third Lanark Darwen Old Wanderers by Cowlairs Higher Walton by Queens Park Accrington by Renton Rossendale by Cowlairs Church by Rangers Fleetwood Rangers by Partick Thistle Blackburn Rovers by Renton Cliftonville by Partick Thistle Lincoln City by Glasgow Rangers In the Scottish League, Scottish Cup and Scottish League Cup The best English Team Berwick Rangers have been beaten by lots of Scottish sides. Intercontinental Cup Racing Club by Celtic Also In the Texaco Cup / Anglo Scottish Cup Newcastle United by Ayr United, Hearts, Dundee United West Brom by Greenock Morton Burnley by Hearts Coventry by Falkirk, Motherwell Huddersfield Town by Airdrie Norwich City by Motherwell Everton by Hearts Blackburn Robers by Motherwell Man City by Airdrie Notts County by St Mirren Oldham by Greenock Morton Mansfield by Partick Thistle Preston NE by Greenock Morton Sheffield United by St Mirren Blackpool by Kilmarnock Spurs by Motherwell Also in the British League Cup Celtic beat Sunderland, and Rangers beat Everton. Also in the 1967 NASL Cagliari by Dundee United, Hibernian Sunderland by Hibernian Shamrock Rovers by Dundee United Bangu (Brazil) by Aberdeen Wolverhampton by Aberdeen Cerro (Uruguay) by Aberdeen ADO Den Haag by Hibernian Also in the Scottish Challenge Cuo Linfield by Queen of the South. Cliftonville by Livingston. Bala Town by Alloa Athletic. TNS by St Mirren Bray Wanderers by Elgin City Sligo Rovers by Falkirk Here is my top 30 of achievements by Scottish sides to have beaten in competitive games. I take into quality of opposition, status of team defeated, number of teams to have defeated the foreign team, and also for bonus points either regional rivalry, or the exotic novelty of the win. 1. Barcelona by Celtic, Dundee United, Hibs 2. Real Madrid by Aberdeen, Celtic 3. Bayern Munich by Aberdeen, Hearts, Glasgow Rangers 4. Inter Milan by Celtic, Glasgow Rangers 5. Liverpool by Celtic, Hibs 6. AC Milan by Celtic, Dundee 7. SV Hamburg by Aberdeen, Hibs, St Johnstone 8. Leeds United by Celtic, Glasgow Rangers 9. Juventus by Celtic, Dundee United, Glasgow Rangers 10. Sporting Lisbon by Celtic, Dundee, Hibs, Glasgow Rangers 11. Manchester United by Celtic 12. Ajax by Celtic 13. Porto by Celtic, Hibs, Glasgow Rangers 14. Dundalk by Celtic, Glasgow Rangers 15. TNS by St Mirren 16. Linfield by Celtic and Queen of the South 17. Barry Town by Aberdeen 18. Shakter Karagandy by Celtic 19. Everton by Dunfermline 20. PSV Eindhoven by Dundee United, Glasgow Rangers 21. Anderlecht by Celtic, Dundee, Dunfermline, Glasgow Rangers 22. Red Star Belgrade by Celtic, Glasgow Rangers 23. Aston Villa by Queens Park 24. Nottingham Forest by Queens Park 25. Werder Bremen by Dundee United, Glasgow Rangers 26. Newcastle United by Ayr United, Hearts, Dundee United 27. Racing Club by Celtic 28. Astana by Celtic 29. Spurs by Motherwell 30. Eintracht Frankfurt by Kilmarnock The most glaring teams not on this list are Chelsea, PSG, Roma, Lazio, Marseille, Sampdoria, Arsenal, IFK Gothenburg, Galatasary, Fenerbache, West Ham, Swansea City, Cardiff City, Wrexham, Newport County, Torino, and Zenit St Petersburg. Plus almost all non European teams such as Corinthians, and Santos. No Scottish team has played Truro City, of Cornwall. The teams beaten by the most Scottish teams seem to have been Standard Liege, Anderlecht, and Sporting Lisbon. Scottish clubs have also beaten nations in friendlies including Striling Albion against Japan, Aberdeen against South Africa, and Hearts against Australia.
  6. British Football League Champions - Alternative History 1889 - 2017 I took a few hours to do this. But I think it was worth it. This is looking at if the Scottish, English, Welsh, and Northern Irish Leagues did not exist, and instead the British League had started in 1889 with Scottish, Welsh, English and Irish (then Northern Irish after Irish independence) sides were allowed to join. I do not support the Scottish, English, Welsh, and Northern Irish Leagues merging. I am an Aberdeen, and Inverness fan. We would do nothing in a modern day British League system nowadays. Plus Scotland would lose a major way of showing it’s identity to the rest of the world. But I have done this list to decide who would have been British champions in an age where the Scottish and English leagues merged. I have also added a bit of couner history with the fact that if Northern Ireland has been part of a British League, the Northern Irish teams would have been bigger. Plus I have added an imaginary team called Dublin Irish Celtic United, to represent Republic of Ireland football before independence. Plus I have taken into account, how much bigger sides from Scotland and Northern Ireland would be with British Premiership TV money. Year Champions - 1889 Preston North End. 1890 Preston North End. 1891 Everton 1892 Sunderland 1893 Sunderland 1894 Aston Villa 1895 Sunderland 1896 Aston Villa 1897 Aston Villa 1898 Glasgow Celtic 1899 Aston Villa 1900 Aston Villa 1901 Liverpool 1902 Sunderland 1903 Hibernian 1904 The Wednesday 1905 Newcastle United 1906 Liverpool 1907 Glasgow Celtic 1908 Manchester United 1909 Newcastle United 1910 Glasgow Celtic 1911 Manchester United 1912 Blackburn Rovers 1913 Sunderland 1914 Dublin Irish United 1915 Dublin Irish United 1916 Glasgow Celtic 1917 Glasgow Celtic 1918 Glasgow Rangers 1919 Glasgow Celtic 1920 Glasgow Rangers 1921 Glasgow Rangers 1922 Liverpool 1923 Glasgow Rangers 1924 Cardiff City 1925 Glasgow Rangers 1926 Huddersfield Town 1927 Newcastle United 1928 Glasgow Rangers 1929 Sheffield Wednesday 1930 Sheffield Wednesday 1931 Arsenal 1932 Motherwell 1933 Glasgow Rangers 1934 Belfast Celtic 1935 Arsenal 1936 Glasgow Celtic 1937 Manchester City 1938 Arsenal 1939 Everton 1940 - 46 WW2 (WW2 was 1939 - 45, but season could no start until 1946.) 1947 Liverpool 1948 Arsenal 1949 Portsmouth 1950 Hibernian 1951 Hibernian 1952 Manchester United 1953 Arsenal 1954 Wolverhampton Wanderers 1955 Aberdeen 1956 Manchester United 1957 Manchester United 1958 Heart of Midlothian 1959 Wolverhampton Wanderers 1960 Burnley 1961 Tottenham Hotspur 1962 Ipswich Town 1963 Everton 1964 Liverpool 1965 Manchester United 1966 Glasgow Celtic 1967 Glasgow Celtic 1968 Manchester City 1969 Leeds United 1970 Glasgow Celtic 1971 Glasgow Celtic 1972 Derby County 1973 Liverpool 1974 Linfield 1975 Derby County 1976 Liverpool 1977 Liverpool 1978 Nottingham Forest 1979 Liverpool 1980 Liverpool 1981 Aston Villa 1982 Liverpool 1983 Dundee United 1984 Aberdeen 1985 Aberdeen 1986 Liverpool 1987 Glasgow Rangers 1988 Liverpool 1989 Glasgow Rangers 1990 Glasgow Rangers 1991 Glasgow Rangers 1992 Glasgow Rangers 1993 Glasgow Rangers 1994 Manchester United 1995 Blackburn Rovers 1996 Manchester United 1997 Manchester United 1998 Linfield 1999 Manchester United 2000 Belfast Celtic 2001 Manchester United 2002 Arsenal 2003 Manchester United 2004 Arsenal 2005 Chelsea 2006 Chelsea 2007 Manchester United 2008 Glasgow Celtic 2009 Manchester United 2010 Chelsea 2011 Glasgow Rangers 2012 Manchester City 2013 Manchester United 2014 Manchester City 2015 Chelsea 2016 Glasgow Celtic 2017 Glasgow Celtic Top teams in League. All time list of record British League title winners. 1. Manchester United have 15 titles. 2. Glasgow Celtic have 14 titles. 2. Glasgow Rangers have 14 titles. 4. Liverpool have 13 titles. 5. Arsenal have 7 titles. 6. Aston Villa have 6 titles. 7. Sunderland have 5 titles 8. Chelsea have 4 titles. 8. Manchester City have 4 titles. 10. Everton have 3 titles. 10. Aberdeen have 3 titles. 10. Sheffield Wednesday have 3 titles. 10. Hibernian have 3 titles.
  7. Another thing to remember when people criticise Scottish football, is to look at all the massive clubs Scottish sides have beaten over the history of Scots clubs in Europe,. Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Manchester United, Liverpool, AC Milan, Everton, West Brom, Celta Vigo, Cologne, Ajax, PSV, Copenhagen, Rosenborg, Ipswich, Bayern Leverkusen, Sporting Lisbon, Porto, Benfica, Juventus, Inter Milan, Basle, to name a few. Plus Elgin beat Bray in the Scottish Challenge Cup.
  8. Well done to Elgin City. The Irish clubs are a good standard. But Aberdeen lost to Queen's Park in the League cup a few years ago on penalties, so these things happen.
  9. The Scottish League should continue, with Celtic and Rangers in the league. My only desire would be we could just have cross border cup with other nations, on top of the champions league European League and the Scottish domestic game, to give us more big sides to play. Be it the Netherlands, Belgium, Portugal, France, Switzerland, Austria, Poland, or the Viking nations, or maybe teams from the English championship. . That is the next step I would like to see.
  10. Scottish clubs should form a cross border cup with the Celtic nations, or a North Atlantic League Cup with Portugal, the Netherlands and Belgium. Where the top four sides of each league play in a 4 groups of four trophy, where the top two in each group qualify for a single leg knockout cup. But we should do that on top of the European Champions League and Europa League.
  11. I think the Irn Bru Cip is a great idea. 1) We get to help our Celtic brothers, in letting them play good sides in a competitive trophy. 2) Scottish Clubs who never get to play outside of Berwick or Scotland get to play different nations's sides. 3) The colt teams playing is great for developing young players. The problem with Scottish football is big teams not giving young players a chance in competitive games. Well this cup gives young players at big sides a chance to play real sides, rather than youth teams. In Spain, Real Madrid and Barcelona play B teams in the lower divisions. They do the same in Germany, the Netherlands and France. Some will say well why don't they play youth players in their first teams, well they don't and if you care about the Scottish international side you will support us doing everything we can to give young players a chance. To get good Scottish internationals we need more chances for young players. That is why I am passionate in my support for the colt sides. The problems with the trophy, that could be fixed. A) Increase the travel expenses, from the sponsors. B) Allow teams in from the English non league system, they have tonnes of money down there. C) Allow every Highland and Lowland League side in. D) Allow teams from Cornwall and the Isle of Man in. The travel issue raised is over the top. People complain about travelling from Elgin to Ireland. Well look at the distances clubs in Australia, Russia, and Brazil they have to do. And we complain about travelling for 1 day, to Ireland. When many fans themselves often travel from Ireland to Glasgow for Celtic and Rangers every two weeks, just to watch a game. Look at the fans of big clubs all over the UK, who get thousands of fans doing just as big distances just to watch their team. Look at the distances traveled by Wick every two weeks in the Highland League. Look at the distances traveled by Ross County, and Inverness every away trip. I also think we should have proper British and Irish Cup, with Scottish Premier sides, English League One sides, and selected teams from Ireland, Northern Ireland and Wales. Or a proper Celtic Cup, with all Scottish Premier sides, that would help Wales, and the two Irelands. So what if a Welsh or Irish side win the trophy. I would not allow them in the Scottish or League Cup, as they are the main trophies, but surely we can cope with them winning the lower tier cup.
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