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  1. It's fine if you can't see the bigger picture, but out-of-town stadiums have become a thing of the past for good reason. Driving to the football is just not going to be a thing for people who live within Dundee itself within ten years of any Camperdown stadium being built, so what then?
  2. Private car ownership in cities the size of Dundee will reduce dramatically as the need to address climate change becomes greater still. To build a stadium in the mid-2020s with zero viable public transport options (and again, please do not say buses, they are not viable for a matchday basis) is ridiculously short-sighted
  3. Don't hold your breath, Yank owners tend to not understand these type of things
  4. And in 15 years time, the idea of travelling to games in private cars will be really strange. And don't start about shuttle buses either, they are not the optimal way of travelling to a football ground. The only thing that matters is how close it is to a station, and Camperdown miserably fails on that front
  5. Can't believe I'm seeing so many Dundee fans excited about the possibility of moving to a completely soulless and inaccessible part of town. Football stadiums that are not within walking distance of a train station are not worth visiting. I get there are problems with Dens, but please remember such moves are permanent. Your grandchildren would have to make trips on a shuttle bus to see a home game on a freezing December midweek many decades from now. Out of town stadiums have never, and will never, work
  6. Up to £28 for a ticket on Saturday by the way, what a joke
  7. Barely one proven striker (feel for Shaw as he's at least a very good prospect) for the rest of the season then. Lennon has lost the head Get him to f**k, along with that *** rat Scott Allan
  8. Haha gladly, I've debated almost every Hearts fan I know on this matter. They try and keep themselves relevant by creating mythical honours such as "the Champions League music played at Tynie ken!!!!" Minter
  9. Aberdeen are the third biggest club in Scotland. No amount of "3 Scottish Cups in 20 years" patter changes this at all. Until either of us win a major European trophy, or come close to the same period of dominance they had in the 1980s, we will not be bigger than them
  10. There are a few points that need addressing here. Aberdeen fans can point out that they are a bigger club than Hibs and Hearts, and that's fine, I accept that they are. I have a lot of time for Aberdeen as a club, it's my adopted city and I even try and go to the odd Dons game when Hibs are not in action. If you are willing to throw away over a century's history, just in some vain attempt to catch the Old Firm, it isn't worth it. No club will topple the Old Firm through building a new stadium. I happily take these jibes about supporting a yo-yo club, because to me, there is more to supporting Hibs than success. That is true of anyone who doesn't support the Old Firm in Scotland. You have to sit and think "what makes it special to support my club?", and if I was a Dons fan, Pittodrie - the site of your second European honour only 35 years ago, would be right up there. For me, if Hibs moved from Easter Road to a location six miles from the city centre, it wouldn't be Hibs anymore. A stadium, particularly one that has been constantly used for over 100 years, is part of the lifeblood of a club. To simply rip it up and move elsewhere in the name of 'modernity' and 'progress' seems so short-sighted to me. I hope Aberdeen remained unrelegated, and I hope they do go on to challenge the Old Firm. But ask yourselves, is it really worth it if it means you lose such a big part of your identity? In my opinion, it isn't
  11. Again, as I've said before, I should be happy with this. This will be a significant blow for one of our historical competitors. Your attendances will plummet and you will spend £50 million plus to be stuck in a white elephant on the outskirts of town for 50-100 years, whilst both Edinburgh clubs stay in their traditional homes and invest on the playing side of things. I won't rejoice in it, because I am that saddened by the developments. This is completely irreversible, and as a fanbase, you have settled for an option that will leave an awful lot to be desired. Why not spend an extra 10-20 million on building it somewhere with good transport links? Or somewhere that the neighbours won't complain at every single decision you make in designing your ground? All to save a bit of money, ridiculous. A lifetime's impact from "the best of a bad situation"
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