D Angelo Barksdale

Whilst the decline of Labour obviously goes deeper than Corbyn or Starmer, the actual brass neck of people who have literally campaigned every day on the slogan 'under new management' blaming it on the previous leadership.

Absolutely miles off here pal. Of course Corbyn has to shoulder the blame for the election defeat, but there were sitting Labour MP's in the media on a weekly basis telling voters that Labour were the most racist organisation ever, and that they should vote for the Tories. These MP's were then rewarded with peerages and cushy jobs with gambling firms, weapons manufacturers and pay day loan companies. But Corbyn was the one doing all the serious sabotaging ? Your second point makes zero sense. The party have already purged the left. There are no 'radical lefties' left in the party. They were told they were scum and not wanted, but it's also their fault for not voting for Starmer and trying to bring him down in some 'delicious irony' ?

Oaft.

I think there's a place in Aberdeen with the same name. Must have been some girl.

Met the Labour party at a charity do once, they were surprisingly down to earth and very funny.

You're backing gunboats being set on fishing vessels in the latest episode of a now 5 year long jingoistic fit by the UK government, but sneering about the tone of Scottish nationalism ? And you don't think this lacks self awareness ?

Absolutely. The media would have you think that the red wall is all boys in flat caps turning Tory. The reality is that it it's a pretty large number of pensioners and, homeowners and business owners with two cars being described as working class, while young renters on shit wages in London are the metropolitan elite. Just another day on normal island tbh.

I notice you keep using this 'civic and joyous' thing now. Even against those who were critical of the gun boats being sent to Jersey on the other thread. Staggering lack of self awareness tbqhwy.

The leadership and the PLP are a bunch of self serving arseholes, more worried about using their positions to launch into other roles with bookmakers, pay day lenders and such. Self important careerists more interested in appeasing a handful of pseudo Tory wealthy donors than advocating for the transformative change that millions in this country need. Absolutely nothing but contempt for these sneering hypocrites who consistently throw tantrums everytime they don't get their way.

New poll guess just dropped.

Nobody is forcing you to vote for Alex Cole Hamilton ffs.

Dunno.

It's an extremely cursed result.

Reports that Labour are having a shocker everywhere except for Andy Burnham in Manchester.

Hmm, interesting that Na h-Eileanan an Iar will declare tomorrow, but the remote, inaccessible community of *checks notes* fucking Edinburgh Eastern will not declare until Saturday.

Please don't, the wounds are still raw.

Even worse than that time the Nazi's stayed for 5years.

On the verge of (tears) a heads gone at this count thing tbqfhwy. Traditional p&b election night fucking ruined, got the beers in and everything.

The Times have these melts routed already.

Dowson was a perfect metaphor for the North Brits there. Squealing 'I'm a proud Scotsman' whilst cowering behind mummy's skirts.

"Nicola, you're a fascist who wants to turn Scotland into a socialist republic"

Trump would win. The old adage of a good big man will always beat a good small man.