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Yep, signed for us in January

Holt at times can definitely be that, but he's being forced into the dirty work by Brandon and Pittman's inability to do it. Someone like a Carson in there gives him the opportunity to open up a bit. Not that it really matters when the defence behind any of them are conspiring to throw the game away at every single opportunity. I really do feel for the sods that end up with Obileye or Devlin after this season. Nottingham as well.

That's also a midfield core devoid of any playmaking quality. Brandon for me hasn't been great at CM and Pittman's legs look done (before you get to the point of his better work being done historically further forward). He won't do it but I'd far rather see Carson-Holt-Sangare in the middle.

So, any updates so far on how it's gone/going?

We did it first though

Maybe we should just take a demotion down to League 2 again, that way we can have a laugh and win some titles again

Martindale?

Just noticed Djibril Diani has been starting in the MLS this season for Charlotte FC. Could go down as a massive what if, given we had an option to buy on him. Goes to show Martindale does have an eye for a player, sometimes it just doesn't work out at the club though.

We'll be away at the earliest opportunity at least

Is that two brand new accounts on here pushing the same agenda again? Another big push from the usual suspects as well? Really is a shame that this spot of the forum has gone down the toilet. What used to be a good spot for Livi fans to come and talk about the club has gone on to become a place where one side of an ownership struggle can just pollute the posts with their side of the story/agenda. The big part for me is that it's not going to win anyone over, if their side of things get control of the club do they think that suddenly folk on here will want to go to games more under them? It's a similar struggle that's gone on through the clubs history that's seen us lose chunks of a loyal fan base, from which the club hasn't ever really recovered. I'm at a point (I'd said it before as well), that I think the club needs a total reset. No one involved now, including Hogarth (and those involved in the court battles), should be allowed anywhere near the running of the club. The fact that however many random accounts have popped up on here with the same rhetoric shows they have something to lose in this, more often than not it's personal and financial when it comes to Livi and these types of characters.

Not a chance, he's not good enough at this level at all

Aye, we've full scale fucked it On paper it looked like we had strengthened and only lost 2 real starters. Turns out Fitzwater to Michael Devlin is an insanely big drop off, Devlin is totally done at this level. We failed to sign a proper right back to replace Nicky Devlin and then Martindale stopped playing Bruce Anderson, our best striker. Shamal George didn't develop as a keeper and instead got a bit worse. The two defenders we seemed to be building our new look defence out of are no longer here, De Lucas fell out with Martindale and went to Cyprus and Boyes got bombed up to Inverness in January. On paper we should've done far far better, we've lost close games and had a general inability to hold onto games or score a penalty as well. Ultimately not good enough though, bit of a surprise as I thought we'd be safe in 7th or 8th tbh.

If I wasn't a Livi fan, this would be very funny.

Obileye genuinely could be one of the worst CBs we've ever had at this level. Constantly carried through games by every other CB.

Was good while it lasted Very typical of our season so far

Lol x2

Lol

A lot of it is, this season his signings have been awful (in part due to the budget being cut 30% from last season's). Guys like Devlin that have the experience and should be doing better have been awful. We've been shite at the back all season. Couple that with his tactics this season that have seen us go on runs where we hadn't won a game in about 15, didn't have a shot on target in 3 straight games and a record of missing crucial penalties or throwing away games. He's been at fault for being stubborn, but you need to caveat it with the fact that the lowest budget in the league then went on to be cut further. He's a bit of a victim of his own success too, some fans just assumed that top 6 is 'our place' and we should be fighting for it every year. Again, probably credit to the work he's done previously. IMO he should get until December this year to see how he turns it around in the Championship.

Tycoon's ex quizzed over cash con claims (scotsman.com) I wonder if this is the same Jaime Duffin involved in this case. Not a very common name, is it?

Scottish Premiership club chairman denies threatening woman | The Scottish Sun

Naw

Happened a few years back but glad that Shamal can finally get a bit of closure with this

Go take the spam posts elsewhere No one here cares, two seasons does not make you iconic. Rather, celebrating in front of Livi fans multiple times does make you a bit of a p***k. Engagement farming nonsense.

One thing I worry about is a further fractured and split fanbase. Some fans won't go back if Martindale doesn't go, or if Ward is still there. Others wont go back if R/H/S get control. A fresh start is really badly needed for the club at this point and a complete break from the infighting.