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On 08/05/2023 at 12:36, FairWeatherFan said:
I mean there's only been one licensed T6 champion this year. While the Highland and Lowland have 3 feeders and 1 promotion spot, I don't agree with the notion of next best gets a leg up. Next year hopefully it will be busier.
Right now there's a freeze on new licensing applicants. As a review is ongoing that will likely raise standards. Just like the last time it happened with the introduction of floodlights. Clubs are working on it. It's slow going though.
Part of my thinking was also with the Highland league being slower to offer a promotion spot it (I know they'd give reasons for that) and no actual play-off of yet, and also with them in danger of getting stagnant again I thought it was something worth considering. Personally, I'd consider second but you wouldn't want a team not going for the title as they knew they'd already done enough for the play-off. I definitely wouldn't want to give Fort William a leg-up after their Highland league record, and you could argue they brought the Highland league into disrepute last season for the play-off.
Like all of the pyramid though, the sooner teams find their level the better.
A far from perfect suggestion I know and I understand why you disagree.
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On 08/05/2023 at 12:34, welshbairn said:
That could have seen Fort William come straight back up from finishing 3rd and 17 points behind the Champions, not sure if I approve! Incidentally the North Juniors have no licensed clubs at all, and with the SFA putting a pause on license applications it looks like there won't be any next year either.
P.S. Strathspey would have likely spanked them though, after their recent improvement.
Yeah, I did say possibly third though and if they're not good enough they'd get beaten in the Highland play-off. 17 points is a lot though.
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It's a shame in a way, that if there are no licensed Sixth tier Highland region champions at all they don't allow any second place licenced teams to play-off, and possibly if there are no licensed second placed teams any third placed teams (I definitely wouldn't go any further down the leagues though).
At the end of the day, if they're not good enough, they'd be beaten in the play-off by the bottom side in the Highland league.
There's the potential at the moment of teams with little intention of getting a license in the near future, for whatever reason, and maybe being able to invest a little more money into their playing squad than licenced teams, of blocking licensed teams who are trying to progress. Whilst also giving a lifeline constantly to a really poor side in the Highland league.
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So what's the latest on the league 3 proposal? Have the leagues discussed it formally yet? What's the next step? Obviously I'm hoping it dies a death...
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One presumes no new applications then?!
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10 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:
Looks like this is the updated table after Syngenta's results wiped. Not quite as tight at the top, but still plenty of teams in the chase.
This is what the standings had been previously.
It's a shame that only three are now going down as four would have mixed up the third division more but I suppose that's fair. I was sorting hoping an extra team would be promoted though even without an EoS net loss of one...
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15 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:
How many worse divisions would East or West champions have to go through to reach a better one?
Twenty-six by the time the SFA have finished.
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Deadline 31st March for new applications? Any more news/rumours with that just over three weeks away?
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On 09/06/2022 at 14:05, Stag Nation said:
AFAIK the SFA haven't proposed changes to the LL, but are setting up "pyramid working group discussions aimed at providing a longer-term solution to optimise the structure and aid the transition of talented players between the ages of 17 and 21."
Those discussions may indeed lead to changes, or they may fizzle out.
Anyway, it's hard to imagine them coming up with anything worse than your proposal, but you never know.
BTW who are the 8 "elite" clubs?
Ohh, they've probably managed it!
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9 minutes ago, stulch said:
Not anything anyone wouldn't have said before but with the Juniors having finally all joined the pyramid. They should just expand league 2 to 16 (no B teams). There's now more clubs in the system so potentially enough quality for that now. Of course won't happen as B teams are the only motivation for change which of course is ridiculous.
And if league 2 are happy with not playing every team frigging four times a season but concerned about the reduction in fixtures increase it to 18 or twenty! There's now enough clubs in the pyramid! FFS though, I won't hold my breath.
Guess what? There'll also be more league teams for Premiership teams to loan players out to get some experience in proper frigging conditions rather than some artificial hodgepodge of a then compromised league.
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3 minutes ago, Burnieman said:
I believe they left Maxwell in a room on his own with some crayons.
Yes, it sounds like it!
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Not anything anyone wouldn't have said before but with the Juniors having finally all joined the pyramid. They should just expand league 2 to 16 (no B teams). There's now more clubs in the system so potentially enough quality for that now. Of course won't happen as B teams are the only motivation for change which of course is ridiculous.
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43 minutes ago, Burnieman said:
So it appears the SFA's (and SPFL's) preferred "solution" is to form a new "Conference League" to sit between L2 and the HL/LL. 10 team league, upto 6 B teams (which can't be promoted) and 4 from HL/LL (which can). An independent league.
A complete abomination of an idea. SPFL clubs don't want B teams in L2, or a new L3.
All Pyramid Leagues have been asked to canvass members of what their preferences are, inc status quo.
Under normal circumstances I'd describe that plan as hilarious but it's just shows the sad state of their thinking! Just imagine 7th in a ten team league getting promoted. The promoted team could even be goal difference away from being relegated!
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15 hours ago, GNU_Linux said:
It's just hit me how few games are now left but I suppose it is mid-February and of course they have to be finished for the Highland play-off. Down to a three horse race for that play-off?
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Well, that didn't go well today. No members left! [emoji23]Premier Division
[emoji3595]1st Penicuik ([emoji3595]5 wins)
First Division
[emoji3483]1st Luncarty ([emoji3483]4 wins)
Second Division
[emoji3596]2nd Whitburn ([emoji3483]4 wins)
So just three left standing with Jeanfield Swifts (Premier), Inverkeithing HS (Premier), Dunbar United (First), Heriot-Watt Univ (Second) & Bo'ness Athletic (Third) all exiting stage left.0 -
Some interesting results today...
Saturday, 3rd September 2022
Premier Division
Broxburn 4-2 Sauchie
Crossgates 2-1 Penicuik
Dundonald Bluebell 1-2 Haddington Athletic
Inverkeithing HS 1-2 Musselburgh Ath.
Linlithgow Rose 4-2 Jeanfield Swifts
Lothian Thistle HV 1-5 Blackburn United
Tynecastle 4-1 Vale of Leithen1 -
Premier Division
[emoji3483]15th Oakley United ([emoji3483]5 losses)
[emoji3483]16th Vale of Leithen ([emoji3595]5 losses)
First Division
[emoji3596]16th Rosyth ([emoji3595]4 losses)
Second Division
[emoji3483]18th Hawick Royal Albert ([emoji3483]4 losses)
Lothian Thistle HV (Premier) and
Coldstream (First) celebrate their exit.0 -
Premier Division
[emoji3595]1st Penicuik ([emoji3595]5 wins)
First Division
[emoji3483]1st Luncarty ([emoji3483]4 wins)
Second Division
[emoji3596]2nd Whitburn ([emoji3483]4 wins)
So just three left standing with Jeanfield Swifts (Premier), Inverkeithing HS (Premier), Dunbar United (First), Heriot-Watt Univ (Second) & Bo'ness Athletic (Third) all exiting stage left.0 -
Isn't it strange seeing every team with at least a point when we're still in the first six months of the season... [emoji12]
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Premier Division
[emoji3483]1st Jeanfield Swifts (4 wins)
[emoji3483]2nd Inverkeithing HS (4 wins)
[emoji3483]3rd Penicuik (4 wins)
First Division
[emoji3483]1st Luncarty (4 wins)
[emoji3483]2nd Dunbar United (3 wins)
Second Division
[emoji3595]1st Whitburn ([emoji3595]4 wins)
[emoji3596]6th Heriot-Watt Univ. (3 wins)
Third Division
[emoji3483]1st Bo'ness Athletic (4 wins)0 -
Newburgh exit the unwanted 100% club.Premier Division
14th Lothian Thistle HV (4 losses)
15th Oakley United ([emoji3595]5 losses)
16th Vale of Leithen ([emoji3595]4 losses)
First Division
15th Rosyth (3 losses)
16th Coldstream (3 losses)
Second Division
18th Hawick Royal Albert (4 losses)0 -
Premier Division
[emoji3483]14th Lothian Thistle HV (4 losses)
[emoji3483]15th Oakley United ([emoji3595]5 losses)
[emoji3483]16th Vale of Leithen ([emoji3595]4 losses)
First Division
[emoji3483]15th Rosyth (3 losses)
[emoji3483]16th Coldstream (3 losses)
Second Division
[emoji3483]18th Hawick Royal Albert (4 losses)0 -
So no loss of members so far but at least one will be lost on Tuesday when Penicuik host Inverkeithing HS.
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Premier Division
[emoji3483]1st Jeanfield Swifts (4 wins)
[emoji3595]2nd Inverkeithing HS ([emoji3595]4 wins)
[emoji3596]3rd Penicuik (4 wins)
First Division
[emoji3483]1st Luncarty (4 wins)
[emoji3483]2nd Dunbar United (3 wins)
Second Division
[emoji3596]4th Whitburn (3 wins)
[emoji3596]5th Heriot-Watt Univ. (3 wins)
Third Division
[emoji3595]1st Bo'ness Athletic ([emoji3595]4 wins)0
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The even more ridiculous thing, in my humble opinion is that rather than an extra tier, if anything, they need one less tier. The Championship, League One and League Two becoming two leagues of 16 (with two extra clubs being promoted to make up the numbers). I wonder if that would have got to a vote?
(The Premiership needs 16 as well but that's definitely not going to happen with the ugly twosome involved.)