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Would be interesting to see how this Looks This year I know the SAFL are down to 29 Clubs a drop of 5 from last year [ but only 2 folded ]

Centenary Trophy 2019/20 1/4 Finals - Update St.Joseph's -V- Barrhead Arky / FC Argyll / Parkhall Ams Goldenhill -V- Hillington Motherwell Th -V- Houston Utd Inverclyde -V- Lochgilhead Red Star

Gavin - [ I think that's your name] midweek games are a big issue for all Leagues at the end of season as is travelling, the SAFA were inundated with calls at the end of the season with Leagues Unfilled fixtures. Surely when you see 2 of your Leagues clubs fold before the season has started has to be concerning for all, especially when one of the clubs has been going for over 40 years Dougie I agree with several of your points and I would say money is a factor ok, not the real issue but definitely a issue the proposals I have mentioned in my post is meant to be a starting point for debate within The SAFA and could be tweaked to include what Dougie is saying and others opinions.

Tug, we at the SAFL had a meeting with the office bearers of The SAFA and one of the proposals we put forward was for the current Saturday afternoon Leagues to become regionalised in other words The SAFL is allocated a region say for example Inverclyde / Dumbarton and all clubs in that area play under our jurisdiction, same with The Cally they for example are allocated region like East Kilbride / Motherwell/ Hamilton area and clubs new or existing play under that banner, all Leagues would still run their own cup competition's within that region and the Scottish and West would be as normal These proposals only apply to Saturday afternoon football at first but if successful could be adopted by all, After the 1st Season in operation the top 2 from each region would form 2 super Leagues Benefits would be local travel which is a big cost and allow each League/ Region to speak with Local councils in they region re pitch hire.[ at the moment some Leagues have about 4/ 5 councils to do this ] We also would scrape the rule preventing players from playing either Saturday morning or Saturday afternoon. The SAFA at the last meeting was sitting with £375.000 [ plus £25,00 from the excellent sponsorship deal announced today ] some of this could be used to assist Leagues/ Regions to support clubs with costs. But sadly we did not get support from The Executive committee though we were informed the constitution avenue is open to all.

Was at the SAFA council meeting last week at was reported club membership is more or less the same as this time last year, with the over 35's seeing a increase in teams also only the one league down

Sure do never played on it, but did watch a few games their was one of the best surroundings for an amateur park in The SAFL [ cant say much good about the changing facilities right enough lol ]

Gunner and LIJ yeah I sure remember the 11 divisions, as I spent every Saturday night doing the fixtures then every Sunday taken calls to give the fixtures out [ before the internet ] and I was a hackney owner/ driver in Glasgow at the time ……...cost me a fortune in wages lol.... Yes it is a worry what is happening to Scotland oldest League and most successful, [ west / Scottish winners ] we even had a meeting with The SAFA office bearers to put forward suggestions to prevent Leagues going under, which if our proposals were considered would stop completely this annual movement of clubs, but after a 30 minute meeting we were later told that the executive committee had no reason to support the proposals which would only effect Saturday afternoon Leagues.

Yes it was seeded,the Top 7 teams in the premier were placed in the first 7 sections in the order they finished last season [ St joseph's finished top and were placed in section 1 and so on down the Division.] and the argyle clubs were placed in Section 8 altogether the only part that was not a draw, [ in the past it was felt they were to many games for the Argyll clubs to play and try and finish before the season ended, this season we are starting a week earlier and they are fewer teams in Premier 1 and Premier 2 ]

KM1991 Not sure why I bother to reply to you post, however I will make it clear to others users your post is a totally false accusation …..it was a draw and NOT ONE SECTION is the same as last year, yes they may be one or two sections with two teams in the same section as last year but that can happen in a DRAW but none "Identical" And Crazy Feet Alba Th have taken a year out.

SAFL 2019/20 - CENTENARY TROPHY DRAW Section 1 Kings Park Rangers,Port Glas Ams, St.Joseph Section 2 Carlton YM, Cardross, Goldenhill ,Port Glas OBU Section 3 Duncanrig FP, Easthall Star, Motherwell Th Section 4 Busby, Glenburn, Glynhill, Inverclyde Section 5 Barrhead Arky, FC Argyle, Parkhall Section 6 Hillington, Neilston, Rutherglen, St.Convals, Section 7 Castlemilk, Claremont, Houston, Starthaven Section 8 Campbeltown Pupils, Dunoon, Lochgilhead, Tarbert 1/4 FINALS SEMI FINALS 1. Winner Section 1 -V- Winner Section 5 Winner Tie 1 -V- Winner Tie 3 2. Winner Section 2 -V- Winner Section 6 Winner Tie 2 -V- Winner Tie 4 3. Winner Section 3 -V- Winner Section 7 4. Winner Section 4 -V- Winner Section 8 Ties to be listed from Saturday 10th August 2019

Touched a raw nerve there Amateur Footie fan..... And I did look @ Rothesay last listed fixture and its was the 13th of April but that was 16 game season [ I do understand that the games were more likely spread out over the season ] ….this Division is a 28 games season and I am sure you can work out that based on last seasons you have not got enough Saturdays left ps And here I was thinking private messaging was exactly that..... pps I have not a problem with the Cally set up good luck to them [ it was the change of the promotion / relegation mid season ]

Your right there …..it will be June for one or two especially Rothesay Brandane…… is that better not really sure

Do not see any acknowledge of being wrong with the twisted " SAFL will fix it fur the president team " post ……...which was put 100% right by NIKRY Strange how you did not question the eligibility of your League moving the goal posts of promotion / relegation half through a season …. Oh and these are the sort of delights another league Match Secretary and clubs can look forward to next season

please read my post again and you will see I said NO TEAMS FOLDED THIS SEASON, EKRR were lost before the season started and are still going as a club like EKYM The others were 2 /3 seasons ago with some of the names you mention tossed out the League The point I am clearly making is the Set up the problem and maybe that's why your League is reverting back to two separate divisions Not for one minute am I suggesting that The SAFL set up is the answer but less teams do fold compared to those that have the Div 1a/ Div 1b set up

No name calling from me Redondo, Oban DID check out the cally back in September 100% fact they were giving no encouragement from they source who is good friends with Oban president [ and myself ] so they then turned to your League.

And Oban only went to your League because they could not get in the Cally..... fact …......….That will always nag away at them im afraid

Redondo normally your posts are pretty sensible but the one above strikes me like total spin for 2 leagues [ one which have no representation in the majors semi final ] you say pennies will be no better off in The SAFL than their current League, turn that around does that mean Oban will be worse off as your Leagues as Divisions 1a and 1b is no better than The SAFL Division 1 or 2 And you say years to get to the top league exactly 2 years mate or maybe less depending if the SAFL change to a 1a and 1b next year I give you credit for saying the SAFL premier has top teams but please do not believe that if the club was respected team they would heading for the so called top leagues

Now that's a change you agreeing with me or is it me agreeing with you ……..lol

Excellent news and all the best Boab 17 a lot of time for your club....

Cbrown 4 you are partial right but as if you look at The SAFL have 3 Divisions and no teams fold this season. So I think that's PART of the reason your League has a BIG problem with clubs going under is the set up...…….The cally League copied your Leagues set up for the last 2/ 3 seasons and lost about 3 or 4 clubs this season alone so not a coincidence and are changing back to 2 Divisions next season. When I was in your League I argued for change back in 1995 !!! and was told its to make it easier to attract teams as its only season to reach the top...…. Your point about the Sunday teams is right no harm, in fact its a plus though I will bet that Oban and Lesmahagow are not in the same Division next year lol

The League being allowed to change promotion and relegation in mid of a season is very surprising, [ granted no club is losing out ] but when The SAFL tried to change mid season a few years ago we were told by The SAFA could not get done as clubs have to be told at the start of every season the situation with promotion / relegation so they know what they are playing for...…...but hey ho looks as if a new precedent been set..... As for the numbers in Division 1 wow 30 game and 26 in Premier plus cup ties, a lot of midweeks games if a club in any division is successful in Scottish /West even Rothesay could struggle to complete...…..saying that the numbers maybe drop before the new season. I wish the League / clubs well

No Gary I did not, …….I do not know the score yet as its not on the SAFA website as I post this !!!...…. Just know from past experience that if Glasgow University are still in the Scottish at this stage they have a decent side this season

Outside bet for me is Glasgow university if they get through to the latter stages and avoid getting a game over the Easter holidays [Normally students returned home ]

Crazy Feet - was that relegation and promotion you write decided at the start of the season or has it just been approved mid season ?...…………………….