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So we have following Leagues Teams through to the last 8 of The Saturday Scottish Cup
2 SPAL Teams
2 KOFAFA Teams
1 AYRSHIRE Team [ guaranteed one from the replays ]
1 LEAFA Team
And 4 teams awating replays
2 From Ayrshire
1 From GGPL
1 From the last remaining Saturday Morning League
Interesting and not surprising that they are none from The Cally again
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Is that 4 SPAL teams in the last 16 ...........
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21 hours ago, justagoalie said:
If we were told that by the blazers at Hampden then at least we would know where we stand.
I think though that we know where they are on the subject of summer football.
The lack of any real opposition to or even acceptance of the current ban on amateur football in the central belt is poor from the people in charge of the game.
Leadership?
If you a referring to The SAFA blazers .......well I can assure you they have put a lot of pressure on The powers above and constantly do......... in fact The SAFA Secretary and President
[ who runs a amateur team ] are just as upset and sick of the situation as you are ................................ but you will find its Sports Scotland are the ones involved in decisions and I believe a compromise was made for some groups being allowed than none at all
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5 hours ago, List_of_Jericho said:
Might seem a daft question but do the Argyll teams play home and away to give 4 games each?
All teams in each section play home and away which should take most sections up to Christmas
then all being well the League would start in the new year with teams only playing each other once and The Jimmy Marshall Trophy would be played as well [ TBC ]
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First set of fixtures now on website http://www.safl.co.uk/index.php?id=all_cup_fixtures.
Centenary Trophy will be played within 5 regions [ Glasgow / Renfrewshire / West / Lanarkshire / Argyle to prevent to much travelling
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Dated suspension has always been a hit and miss ......player given 2 month suspension over the winter period may miss less games than the player giving a 4 match suspension, or another example over the winter period a player giving a 4 game ban is out longer than the 2 month suspended player......so a I said its been hit and miss for years...
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6 hours ago, NewBallsPlease said:
Apologies, I was talking about in the West. Bear in mind in the last 3 seasons the SAFL have lost everyone but Goldenhill.
And you bear in mind The SAFL not lost everyone .....so you can apologize again.....as Castlemilk reached the 1/4 finals in 2018/19
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At The Scottish Amateur Football League AGM the formation of Divisions for 20/21 was decided :
PREMIER DIVISION Barrhead Arkleston, Castlemilk Ams, Easthall Star, Goldenhill, Hillington, Inverclyde, Kings Park Rangers, Motherwell Th, Port Glasgow Ams, Rutherglen.
PREMIER DIVISION ONE Busby, Campbelltown Pupils, Carlton YMCA, Glenburn, Dunoon, Glynhill Moorcroft, Lochgilphead Red Star, Neilston, Parkhall, St.Convals.
PREMIER DIVISION TWO Arthurlie Juniors [new club ] Baljaffray Ams [ new club ] Cardross Ams, Claremont, Duncanrig FP, Port Glasgow OBU, Strathaven Dynamo, Tarbert.
Promotion 2 up and Relegation 2 Down
ALL SUBJECT TO CHANGE AND START DATE UNKNOWN
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I reckon Suspensions/ fines will still stand
In my opinion the problem with null and void is you can't move a team up,if a team in a higher Division folds / leaves [ unless you draw the team from the lower division out a hat ]
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On 25/04/2020 at 19:53, tug said:
Auld yin - what do think the future will hold for amateur football as I cannot see it surviving in current structure ?
Tug - Amateur football will survive but a number of Leagues will fold, Thus regionalisation is the answer in my opinion to prevent as many for doing that.
They is a chain of thought from people who use this forum either to read the posts or contribute to a topic of " I'm all right jack " attitude but forgetting when you are in a position [ like me ] you have to look at the whole amateur football game not just your own League,
Now it has been said to me the reason I am pushing for regionalisation is because my League [ SAFL ] is losing teams [ all leagues are ] NOT TRUE I have suggesting this format since about 2006 and past presidents/secretaries of The SAFA know that and I was even involved in discussions with leagues about 20 years ago regarding something similar.
Its also been put to me that amalgamation of Leagues is the answer to the problem it may well be however I think that is only a temporary solution as it does not answer the travel issues.
Saying that all above is insignificant of what some people are going through right now
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Nope, I do not know as I was not present
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15 hours ago, Amateur Footie Fan said:
Agreed. Its a stupid situation where leagues may null and void a season (which most seem to be doing,) and players move clubs. Then they start playing the Scottish Cup etc with different players. A decision should be made by the SAFA that all leagues follow so that its done the same across yhe board.I do not often agree with you "Amateur Footie Fan" but your are right on this...……….. wonder why they did not
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Regionalisation is 100% the way forward for one season then create 2 super Divisions after that season. And the remaining teams just continue to play in regions
Simple to do for Saturday afternoon football and The SAFA are aware of it [ and have small support within it ] as we put it forward to them back Last September B4 the shut down.
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58 minutes ago, Graham3179 said:
Zero rule changes are required, SAFA rules already allow for summer football and there are summer leagues already, so people will need to find someone else to blame than the dinosaurs.
There’s no need to move every league from winter to summer, SAFA already have a mixture of summer and winter leagues.
All it takes is for a league or association to start a summer division, or a new summer league to be created. IF there really is demand for it then I’m sure a division or league will be created, but if everyone sits back and blames everyone else for not doing it, then it won’t happen. Everyone coming up with excuses for it not happening, but there’s absolutely no reason why it can’t be done in the current SAFA set up.Graham how are you? hope your are keeping well.....the rule I refer to change is player registrations, and only allowed to play once on a Saturday, who is going to give up the chance to play [ if successful ] in the Scottish / West cup latter stages or chasing a League title to then registrar for a summer League assume start date is march, so that's why I mention if some current Leagues who are struggling moved it may be better than a new League starting thus keeping the players and clubs as not everyone could play in Winter Leagues.
And as a dinosaur and as you know I have always been very pro active on changes and made a good few happen
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A lot of rules changes required within the SAFA and Leagues but possible and that's the easy bit ......I would think Leagues that a struggling could be worth considering [ though after this we could find more are ]
Do something about it then......not just talk about it
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Well Done to The SAFL Executive suspending all fines due by clubs due to the current situation, as most clubs raise funds from players on match days....good move
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The SAFL 3 vs Cent AFL 6
Deserved result, although SAFL missed a penalty the better team won, great performance from The SAFL Goalkeeper
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16 hours ago, justagoalie said:
Whereabouts auld yin. Or are you keeping your knowledge to yourself
Ooops………...
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INTER LEAGUE TROPHY Semi Final
The Sottish Amateur Football League -V Central Scottish AFL
Sunday 23rd K.O. 4pm
Admission Free
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7 minutes ago, Amateur Footie Fan said:
Other leagues dont, "take" your teams. They leave of their own accord to go to another league. You should maybe have a wee think about why that is??yeah yeah yeah...….back to subject please
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54 minutes ago, NewBallsPlease said:
But keeping your league’s name is selfish. The future of amateur football is what is important, not what the name of the league the teams play in or who is on the committee.
Why don’t you put a proposal forward that says ‘We don’t care what the league is called, we don’t care who is in the committee but we care passionately about the future of amateur football?’
The SAFL as a respectable force is finished, for now, sadly. The loss of Oban, Alba, St Joes, Thorn and and add to that Motherwell Thistle being consumed by a gang dumped from the Caledonian League has left it in a position that probably isn’t recoverable.New balls please - neither do I care but others do !!!...………………. and we did put forward proposals so please read the my other post ………….and as for your pop at the SAFL heard for the last 20 years we always recover that's why other Leagues take our teams.
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13 hours ago, Bridgewater said:
Possibly an ignorant question here, but why is it so important that leagues "keep their own identity"? From the outside it looks nothing more than an ego trip.
Surely we already have who we need spread across all the leagues in each region, we have people who want to be involved in the game, people who want to support the game and most importantly people who love the game.
There appears to be a few office bearers/committee members of leagues who want to stifle and hinder progress for the sake of history or sentiment to a league name, which is just that, a name only.
Using Redondo's example above, i think this could be a foundation for a great idea and genuinely don't understand why some one from either league would pick up the phone and say "in our opinion, we have the 2 best leagues in the region, why don't we merge all the teams and create what would most likely be a superb set up with teams playing new opponents, going to new pitches and experiencing new referees"
I hope people dont think i am suggesting i have all the answers as i clearly don't, but whether people want to admit it or not, the amateur game as a whole is dying on its arse and it needs not just change, but radical change to give it a fresh boost.
Bridgewater - not ignorant question not sure the answer but I know for a fact it was a big issue years ago when this was talked about so I have to assume its still a big issue thus why our proposals include keep your Leagues name, We at the SAFL are the oldest League in Scotland ( Est 1900 ] even older than the SAFA so more to lose than any other League
Its been said to me The SAFL are putting forward these proposals as we are loosing teams to other Leagues, yes that's partial true but in turn these same Leagues are having teams fold year after year.....so this is how its in all our interest
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Redondo- We at the SAFL submitted ideas and met with the SAFA office bearers to address the issues faced by ALL leagues within The Amateur structure , it was based on regionally platform but very importantly the current Leagues still kept their own Identity [ that's why your suggestion will never happen ] and it also involved a super League. and a pyramid system.
Sadly it was rejected by the executive committee of the SAFA, though we given the opportunity to submit constitution changes.
I go to council meetings of The SAFA and at the last meeting it was raised by a Sunday League rep regarding issues facing the Amateur game. and it was taken on board by the office bearers and will be discussed at a future meeting and any suggestions by any parties were invited to put to the National Secretary.
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Yes,
and its a Month earlier in April
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Another team resigns! Seen today a well known and established team Dunoon AFC have folded.
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Posted · Edited by auld yin wae knowledge
1 Team in the East Cup Final
1 Team in the West Cup Final with another playing in the Semi Final
2 Teams in the last 8 of the Scottish
The League select winning 16 v 0 last weekend
so you post is just another negative comment about the SPAFA
So let me balance your negativety
your beloved Cally have only 1 team left in all the nationals / district Cups
which make the decision for those teams to move Leagues even more bewildering considering the reasons given