Beenzon-Toste
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If he takes a season out, his 8k is gone anyway.Guys easily on £8k a season, training twice a week and playing on a Saturday then saying to the wife “see that £8k a make that pays the holidays etc, I’m no taking it off the club this season” I can’t see many of the high earners playing for nothing, and why should they[emoji2371]0 -
Proud of yourself?I went along to a local game yesterday and watched from outside the ground. About 30 other folk had the same idea as me. Ridiculous that if we’d stood another 6 foot away the club could have charged us to watch, yet they made nothing from the game. Most WoSFL league games can be watched from outside so you’ll still get fans “attending” yet the clubs won’t get a penny.
You're the type that will solve the problem of no fans being allowed in when Queen Nicola stops all games at our level.4 -
Yes there is. 53 at the last count.It seems you are west-based. You are perhaps better posting this in the West of Scotland Football League section of P&B, as there are no junior teams in the west of Scotland anymore.0 -
What was the result of the vote?That depends on the vote regarding how many come down from tier 6.0 -
The WRSJFA is finished this season. So why would they need to relegate or promote anyone. Where were they relegating or promoting them to?
If you decide winners then you gotta decide relegation I’m not blaming SFA or LL this lies squarely on the WRSJFA and there inability to relegate 3 teams while promoting 3 that’s what the problem is0 -
The way I see it, if it had been 17 in year 1, the aim would have been to finish in the top 13. Any below that go into tier 7.
It's been pushed up to 20, (the reason behind it is irrelevant) so now the aim is still to finish in the top 13. Any below still go into tier 7.
Get it done in one year and we can then move on with the structure that it was always meant to be.1 -
No, it would actually only be 5 down from tier 6 and 7 at the end of season 2 if you look at the document sent out last week by the WoSFL. Tier 8 and 9 would not be affected.
Plus 5 down next summer would mean two extra places in tier 7 for Conference teams for 2021-22.
Haven't seen the document, but assuming the leagues formed out of the conferences would be 16, 16 & 17 if 5 relegated from Premiership. That would mean in the following season, if another 5 are relegated from the Premiership that it would be 5 relegated from tier 7 and 5 relegated from tier 8 to keep it at those numbers.
But even if you're correct, it's a bit unfair for the teams that put in a lot of hard work in the conferences to get to tier 7 only to be faced with 5 relegation spots in season 2. Just to favour the Premiership teams.1 -
Surely if it's to be 5 down that's a bit unfair on the conference teams.
In season two it will need to be 5 relegations in each of the top 3 leagues to keep them inline.
To me that would look like favouring the Premiership teams again. Why?
They pushed for 20 this season so they should have thought about the consequences of getting back to 16.3 -
I've heard it's to be either 7 or 5 relegations after first season. Clubs to vote on it.
What's the feelings on this?
Has there been anything from the Wosfl about pros and cons?
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There you all go again, can't wait to wade into me with your big tackety Boots.Oh c’mon Beenzon - the Range isn’t a similar type of shop as the others.
If we allow the Range, then the post thread has gone for a Burton
Some of you are Sofa King obvious.4 -
Oh, I don't know.Not Beenz's finest half hour. [emoji1751][emoji23]
I poked the wasps nest with a stick and got them upset.0 -
Please pack this in, the humour has a limited Range.
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I know fine well what the truth is, as do you.If that was the case they would have sent out invitations. Yet they didn't, they allowed everyone to apply and accepted everyone. Sorry if the truth is inconvenient to read. (Again.)
You didn't get what you hoped for and your club has the Covid to thank for saving it's arse. But once order is returned, I'm quite sure that your club's true level will be sorted out.1 -
Exactly that.
67 clubs were accepted.
Their bluff got called.0 -
Why was that then?No matter how things have turned out, the fact is that the only people who advised clubs on what to do was the WRSJFA management. The LL-WoSFL just left the clubs to make up their own minds without any pressure.
To save time, I'll tell you.
The LL-WoSFL didn't want everyone.0 -
What they wanted was what you promised from the outset.Exactly. All of the clubs had a choice, but they were told by the WRSJFA management that they should apply. They could have got together and said "no thanks", and then a new WRSJFA committee would have been formed from the remaining members. But I suspect that wasn't really what the current WRSJFA management team wanted to happen.
Join the Pyramid, play the same teams you've always played, nothing changes.
And that's what happened, unfortunately for those that thought they'd end up in a cherrypicked league.
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Explain it to me then.I'm not the one missing the point.
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Just like the choices my maw gave me at dinner, "Take it or leave it."Every club had a choice.
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I think that you're missing the point.As previously stated, which you appear to have missed again and again, I want to have the Junior cup for actual real Junior clubs and not for Senior clubs who couldnt wait to leave the "grade".
All those months you were defending the "grade" and now you are happy for your club to screw that same "grade" and the clubs within it.
If the Junior Cup was left with just North and East competing it would have faded into insignificance. Keeping the West involved keeps it as the biggest cup in lower league football.0 -
So why didn't you wait then?I said potentially corrupt I would wait to see the outcome of the investigation before coming to that conclusion. he’s been involved in committees for years. You telling me this is his first time using electronic minutes, there is a clear difference between amend and destroy1 -
He uses the word - destroy, instead of the word - disregard, and you've got him hung drawn and quartered as corrupt.You are correct about one thing tho, the running of Scottish Football this season has been shambolic at times. But in everything that I witnessed the most alarming and concerning bit of bad governance and potentially corrupt is John Fyfe instructing the committee to destroy minutes. Then Colin Chisholm getting caught in a very conflicting position by sending an email informing the committee that there may need to be a rethink with regards to their earlier decision that positivity impacts his own club.
Then you have you who defends them and slaughters anyone else who isn’t part of the running of junior football and Talbot
He used terminology from a bygone era, that's all. A phrase from a time when minutes were actually printed out and if they were found to be inaccurate were "destroyed" and replaced with an amendment attached.4 -
Exactly the whistleblower hasn’t done much wrong just bringing the shady actions going on at west juniors maybe they want to know who leaked the emails BUT don’t deflect away from the main agenda of the investigation that is why after the interference of mr Chisholm the committee changed there mind not to null and void league
Nice to see you've already got the gallows built.
From my reading of it, they wanted to go with null and void plus also submitting an entrant to the SFA cup. They were informed that it would not be accepted by the SFA, so they revised their decision because the decision could not be upheld. Don't see anything remotely shady about any of it. Chisholm was the President and was in contact with the SJFA and the SFA about it. He would have been hung out to dry if he hadn't divulged the information and Talbot later appealed the decision of null and void.
I'm also quite sure that they know exactly who leaked it. But they want the inquiry to confirm it.4 -
I wouldn't be looking at someone on the email list of recipients, but someone on that list might have an email address that others in his club have access to.
It looks to me that they have hung their own delegate out to dry in their desperation to have a go at the Regions committee and/or Talbot.
It shouldn't be too hard to work out who would have motivation to do so.
Perhaps they'll have the courage to come out with an explanation of their actions.
I wouldn't bet on that though.3 -
They're struggling for news then if that's came as a shock.
Seems to be growing as a news item
[/url]However, in a shock move that could spark concerns for the future of the Junior Cup, Glens - who are four-time winners of the trophy - believe competing in the tournament would clog up their fixture calendar and it would "not be in the club's best interests" to compete.
The club also believes there should only be one body to govern the game at this level to avoid "potential conflicts of interest" and they have chosen not to renew their SJFA membership when football returns after the Covid-19 shutdown.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/rutherglen-glencairn-pull-out-junior-22056172
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