Beenzon-Toste

WHAT???? You haven't been sent a copy???? Losing your touch.

Or it could be because they prefer to use the proper channels to put their business to the clubs, unlike others that are happy to use their p&b stooges to put out their lies for them.

Did I say that they weren't going? Or, more to the point, did they say they were?

Where does it state that they are not supporting the efforts of the SJFA?

It's hardly 'massive'. I believe that every club in the WRSJFA should declare a statement of interest. But that's all it is. An interest to find out first hand from the LL what their intentions are. There's nothing in Cumnock's announcement to indicate that they're going.

Aye, let's go back to 1 semi final getting played on a Wednesday in April with the other semi final and final in the same week in May.

honestly, what idiot would put it to his member clubs without believing that the people in the meeting with him, including Ian McQueen, were genuine when they told him that the LL, SFA of whatever league or association that option Z was backed. ESPECIALLY when everyone knows that its not in any way worthwhile for the senior leagues to accept option Z

And that's your answer? He's 'hinging it oot' for a big payout. Big gamble there. Surely he could be facing dismissal for gross misconduct in office by deliberately misleading his employers?

WOW. So, I take it you mean that none of this came from the SFA or the PWG? It's all a fabrication from TJ to mislead his clubs. Completely made up by him alone. A work of fiction. Really?

Why would TJ ask the clubs to support an option that he knew had zero chance of being accepted? Someone please explain that one to me. Surely someone, somewhere give him the wrong information. He's been played and made to look foolish by passing on what he was assured was probably the best way forward for the SJFA. Was it the SFA? Was it there way of backing him into a corner with no way out? It was their options that had been put forward. Did they already know that none of them would get agreement? Did the LL tell the SFA that they would support option Z, with the knowledge that they wouldn't?

The reason that the WRSJFA backed Option Z was down to the fact that they had been assured by the SFA that it had the support of the LL. The EOSL weren't keen on it, but Petrie claimed he would push it through regardless.

There you go. From your own fair hand.

They've been lied to. Ultimately those lies were passed on to the clubs.

Not denying it though? Are you?

Nonsense? Of course it's nonsense. Who would have thought that those nice guys in the LL and the EOSL could come up with something so machiavellian?

The LL and the EOSL are 2 members of the PWG.

I never said there was 2 people on the PWG with crossover positions.

Nice to see you've also caught on to the lies.

Looks like I've hit a nerve.

Like I said, all lies and a smokescreen to cover up their scheme to destroy the SJFA. 2 members of the PWG that happen to have a crossover of officials running their organisation, made mugs out of Petrie and Maxwell and shafted the SJFA to satisfy their own ends.

Finally catching on. Except that they never had any intention of letting the WRSJFA in. All lies and smokescreen to make them out to be the good guys. Looks like TJ's last email to the clubs is not so ridiculous after all.

It's what needs to happen now. That way the West can retain its history, heritage, and identity. It can move forward as one. It would allow it to retain all its competitions and invite others to become members. It may have to reinvent itself as a separate structure from the SJFA and depending on any other clubs showing an interest then it may have to go to conference leagues for it's first season. Sticking with the SJFA will only result in further fragmentation because more and more ERSJFA clubs will leave because of the roadblock that's been put in their way. Some WRSJFA clubs will also follow suit if there's somewhere to go, leaving the rest to wither and eventually die. What's more important? Remaining together as one regional group of clubs and building on that, or sticking with a dying SJFA for the sake of 1 cup?

I didn't say that they were on the PWG. Someone else said that they were on 2 Associations involved in the Pyramid process. You're clearly underplaying their potential influence on decision making.

No wonder we couldn't get a deal. 2 men serving 2 Associations.

So, what part or parts are inaccurate/misunderstood?